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Old 02-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #2881
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The only references I can find to 'web-dl' online is a tag used in the file names for pirated copies of TV shows ripped off of DVD, Blu-ray or sometimes iTunes. Of course those don't have any graphics or ads, because they come from the DVD and Blu-rays...

TNG won't be released on Blu-ray in 16x9, so the only source is some broadcast service, which will, most likely, have obnoxicons and possibly ads. A service like iTunes would be a better option as well... But as far as I know iTunes is still just 720p, isn't it? I assume that won't last forever, but until they have 1080p video, I don't even consider it an option...
WEB-DLs come primarily from iTunes, they never come from DVDs or BDs (those rips are marked as such). So, if TNG was ever put out on iTunes, you could buy the episodes there and have them without adverts, on-screen graphics, etc. although only in 720p currently.

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And _ANY_ digital broadcast (or re-compressed 'download service') (including iTunes) is going to have inferior picture quality compared to Blu-ray, so even if it was logo-free, it's still not going to look as good... Maybe that's good enough for some people, but I want the best looking picture possible on my system.
True, the BDs will be the best quality. But WEB-DL is likely to be the best quality available for the eventual 16:9 versions!
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:44 PM   #2882
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True, the BDs will be the best quality. But WEB-DL is likely to be the best quality available for the eventual 16:9 versions!
Quite the oxymoron.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:41 PM   #2883
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WEB-DLs come primarily from iTunes, they never come from DVDs or BDs (those rips are marked as such).
I probably just found someone miss-using the term... I found a couple of file names like this:

(title of show/movie/etc)_Web-DL_[DVD-Rip].mkv
(title of show/movie/etc)_Web-DL_[BluRay-Rip].mkv

Etc... I think someone was just associating it with a version of the show you can download from the web...
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:05 PM   #2884
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Anyone have any idea how well the sampler disc sold?
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:11 PM   #2885
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True, the BDs will be the best quality. But WEB-DL is likely to be the best quality available for the eventual 16:9 versions!
If they do end up doing that, I will be pleased. I will have the entire series on BD, and a select dozen or so favorite epis in widescreen for my iPod.

I'll have "The Best of Both Worlds."
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:00 PM   #2886
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Didn't Michael Okuda say that in some cases there was a little bit more information on the sides but it usually contained stuff that was never meant to be seen (ie sandbags, lighting equipment etc) so just because that one frame would be ok it doesn't automatically mean every frame will have enough usable material to make 16:9 versions without cropping.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:26 AM   #2887
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Anyone have any idea how well the sampler disc sold?
Well enough for my local corner video store here in Norway to have it on display . Bought a copy last night and really enjoyed it
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:26 PM   #2888
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it was ment to be seen as 4:3 so that's what i will stick with....

i don't wanna see short fat people or zoomed in frames and i don't wanna see lighting stands and sandbags or cables

why now days does EVERYTHING have to be in widescreen when it was shot over 20years ago when 4:3 was the norm? i wanna see it as it was ment to be seen i will always take OAR over zoomed or stretched any day, for me the blu ray is all about the PQ

they zoomed and cropped the HUGE blu ray "world at war" box set too and that's the reason i still haven't bought it even tho i love ww2 media

i hate it when you go to peoples homes and their tvs are set to fill the screen on everything, some black bars are not going to kill you

(unless you have a very cheap plasma with bad IR) my 50" plasma has no problems with IR at all

what im trying to say is when it comes to AR sometimes less IS more
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:42 PM   #2889
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This discussion is long-done, but FYI, lightstands and such are easily painted out nowadays.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:48 PM   #2890
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Maybe at the end of this AR discussion we'll juuuuust miss the USS Bozeman.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:20 PM   #2891
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Just to have a definite answer, these bluray releases will be closer to a 4:3 ratio than a 16x9 redux, right? And if it is closer to the 4:3 ratio, it's still not going to be framed like the original broadcasts because the blurays are using more of the image from the film than what was originally cropped out, right?
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:13 AM   #2892
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Just to have a definite answer, these bluray releases will be closer to a 4:3 ratio than a 16x9 redux, right? And if it is closer to the 4:3 ratio, it's still not going to be framed like the original broadcasts because the blurays are using more of the image from the film than what was originally cropped out, right?
Some more and some less apparently. Out of the sampler disc episodes only Sins of the Father had major cropping issues which seems more like an error than something that will be prevalent in the later seasons. The other episodes actually opened up by 2-3% all around the image which was a nice surprise to my eyes. I like seeing that slight bit more in the picture even if it's not really noticeable to most people.

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Old 03-09-2012, 07:12 AM   #2893
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The new Blu-rays as the sampler are 4/3, with variations into the framing we see inside that 4/3 window, when compared to the original 4/3 DVDs which are the old TV masters.

The widescreen versions will be HDTV only (and hopefully on iTunes) for now.
Widescreen is better.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:05 AM   #2894
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This discussion is long-done, but FYI, lightstands and such are easily painted out nowadays.
Do tell. Can they fix the fact that since equipment was there it wasn't lit to be shown?
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:10 PM   #2895
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Amazon dropped the price down to $9.99 which is good enough for me. Can't wait to see the work done finally!
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:17 PM   #2896
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i loved the sampler and cant wait for the full seasons to start coming out so i can get my geek on 1980s-90s style, there's nothing like getting good and stoned to star trek, it really is the best show for making you think outside of the box
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:27 PM   #2897
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there's nothing like getting good and stoned to star trek, it really is the best show for making you think outside of the box
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:39 PM   #2898
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lol thanks for that made me chuckle
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:49 PM   #2899
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lol thanks for that made me chuckle
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at lest i didn't get hooked on a very gay looking game...don't rember the ep but almost the whole crew get hooked onto a game that makes them feel good every time they get a goal in a little cone thing, looks like some type of headband that links to the eyes season 1 i think
Um, no. Try season five. And it's titled.... The Game.

I like it, besides it's got one thing going for it: Ashley Judd.
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