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Old 09-02-2011, 09:45 PM   #121
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The biggest change I noticed from the Theos is that the sweet spot is much larger than their previous lines with good linearity throughout the entire passband but for me it seems that the response has a lot of tilt starting at the crossover point to the woofer and seems to run hot making it sound boomy. I have not seen the innards of the bass cabinet but either it has little dampening or they skimped on the materials. It is also lighter overall compared to the Vantages/Vistas.

As far as timbre they are very transparent but I feel that they require a bit more rake than what the speaker allows. They are fairly neutral in their presentation with the soundstage expanding beyond the speakers with a 360 degree feel.
I've only had a limited time listening to them, and for the most part, it was with material I'm not too familiar with.

That being said, I found that compared to the Vantage (the ML I'm most familiar with), they had better mids and highs. Though I thought the highs were slightly brighter than the Vantage's. Bass wasn't equal, but the Theos don't have powered woofers, so that's to be expected. I was surprised by the amount of bass the Theos can put out though, and in hindsight, perhaps it's slightly tighter than what you get with the Vantage.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:57 PM   #122
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Well, I totally messed up. I thought I'd ordered two Motion 12's from Newegg yesterday morning only to find out this morning that I only ordered one and now they are out of stock. I called and pleaded with newegg to no avail and then searched the internet to find that most places only sell these in pairs. And Amazon is out of stock as well.
Haha, I did the same damn thing last week during the BOGO promotion. Luckily they did resolve the issue. The last one got here yesterday, and they sound pretty good, but I wouldn't replace my Prefaces for them (ordered the Motion 12s for a friend).
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:06 PM   #123
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Haha, I did the same damn thing last week during the BOGO promotion. Luckily they did resolve the issue. The last one got here yesterday, and they sound pretty good, but I wouldn't replace my Prefaces for them (ordered the Motion 12s for a friend).
I think I remember hearing them a couple of years ago at the Magnolia store. I was really impressed, but I'm happy with the Motion 12's.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:23 PM   #124
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http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...speaker-system

A new review of the ElectroMotion ESL.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:42 PM   #125
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I gave the ESLs a listen, and I think I'm going to upgrade to those. Anyone know where I can get a good deal on these?
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:25 PM   #126
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Can anyone tell me how well this speaker sounds? Also, how does it compare to the Definite Technology ProCenter 1000 center channel?

I would have posted this a separate thread but since I'm new here I don't have permission.

I haven't listened to either speaker but I've read wonderful things about ML and I'd like to replace my current Polk center channel with the Motion 6.

Thanks everyone.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:02 PM   #127
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Hope someone can give me an opinion.

Should I buy the new Electromotion speakers, or should I spend a little more on the older Vintage models?
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:34 PM   #128
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Hope someone can give me an opinion.

Should I buy the new Electromotion speakers, or should I spend a little more on the older Vintage models?
It depends really. The ElectroMotions are pretty awesome. Martin Logan gave us quite a bit for the money with this line. The only thing you don't get is a choice of finishes. They only come in black. The performance however is something special. The sound quality is up there with some of their more expensive models. On top of that they aren't power hogs like most of their speakers. They run at a nominal 6ohms with a sensitivity of 91dB's so a good receiver is all that's needed to run them unlike most other Martin Logans that really need external amplification. You can look at some vintage models, but know that they will require that you spend more money on amplification so your savings may be negated. Not only that, but the newer lines are a lot more stylish than the most of the older models IMO. Don't get me wrong though...there are certainly some vintage models that are well worth exploring particularly if you can get a good price on them.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:32 PM   #129
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I don't know if anyone has time to take a look for me BUT...

I went into best buy and talked to the guy about speakers, the guy was really trying to sell me on these:

Motion 10 5-1/4" Floor Speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=13

Motion 8 4" Center-Channel Speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=15

Dynamo 500 10" 360-Watt Powered Subwoofer:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=13

what do you think? For the price should i do something else? I want to get a great setup and only do it once! (well for at least 10 years or so). Right now I have a very crummy free 5.1 sony home theater in a box. Going to get a new amp and front and center and sub . Then work on the rears. Any feedback would be great!
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:22 PM   #130
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I don't know if anyone has time to take a look for me BUT...

I went into best buy and talked to the guy about speakers, the guy was really trying to sell me on these:

Motion 10 5-1/4" Floor Speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=13

Motion 8 4" Center-Channel Speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=15

Dynamo 500 10" 360-Watt Powered Subwoofer:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLo...ear&cp=1&lp=13

what do you think? For the price should i do something else? I want to get a great setup and only do it once! (well for at least 10 years or so). Right now I have a very crummy free 5.1 sony home theater in a box. Going to get a new amp and front and center and sub . Then work on the rears. Any feedback would be great!
I would suggest going with the Motion 12 instead if you are going with this line of speakers. The Motion 10 is OK, but the 12 is infinitely better. If you are in no hurry then you can get the Motion 12 for $299 each on Newegg when they're on sale. They are out of stock right now though. I would also suggest going with a different sub. The Dynamo 500 is good, but for $500 you can do much better. I would say look at the Epik Legend and the Rythmik FV12 which are both $499 plus shipping.
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:31 PM   #131
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It depends really. The ElectroMotions are pretty awesome. Martin Logan gave us quite a bit for the money with this line. The only thing you don't get is a choice of finishes. They only come in black. The performance however is something special. The sound quality is up there with some of their more expensive models. On top of that they aren't power hogs like most of their speakers. They run at a nominal 6ohms with a sensitivity of 91dB's so a good receiver is all that's needed to run them unlike most other Martin Logans that really need external amplification. You can look at some vintage models, but know that they will require that you spend more money on amplification so your savings may be negated. Not only that, but the newer lines are a lot more stylish than the most of the older models IMO. Don't get me wrong though...there are certainly some vintage models that are well worth exploring particularly if you can get a good price on them.
oh I meant the actual model Vintage , which is basically the older version of the Theos.

I ended up buying them, I'm too impatient to wait on an ElectroMotion sale. I have an Emotiva XPA-5 amp hooked to a Pioneer Elite VSX-52, so I'll have enough power driven
Got them on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Vi...377078&sr=8-21

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Old 12-31-2011, 11:45 PM   #132
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oh I meant the actual model Vintage , which is basically the older version of the Theos.

I ended up buying them, I'm too impatient to wait on an ElectroMotion sale. I have an Emotiva XPA-5 amp hooked to a Pioneer Elite VSX-52, so I'll have enough power driven
Got them on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Vi...377078&sr=8-21
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:02 AM   #133
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oh I meant the actual model Vintage , which is basically the older version of the Theos.

I ended up buying them, I'm too impatient to wait on an ElectroMotion sale. I have an Emotiva XPA-5 amp hooked to a Pioneer Elite VSX-52, so I'll have enough power driven
Got them on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Vi...377078&sr=8-21
I think you meant Vantage. Those are the Vista in your link for an excellent price I must say. I would take the Vista over the ElectroMotion myself. The Vista has a bigger XStat panel so its the superior speaker. It originally sold for twice the cost of the ElectroMotion as well. Congrats on the score!!
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:38 AM   #134
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I think you meant Vantage. Those are the Vista in your link for an excellent price I must say. I would take the Vista over the ElectroMotion myself. The Vista has a bigger XStat panel so its the superior speaker. It originally sold for twice the cost of the ElectroMotion as well. Congrats on the score!!
Yeah I meant Vista, haha! I was pretty intoxicated last night, and remembered after the new year hit, that I wrote the wrong model!
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:52 PM   #135
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M.L Motion 12 or Polk Monitor70

I want to upgrade my HT.....So i went to New Egg site and found these 2 great deals so i need you guys help to lead me in the right direction....I want to upgrade my Polk R50' Towers.. so what which is the better speakers

I don't want to go over $1000 for my Towers.

Polk Audio Monitor70 Series II $ 360 a pair

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Martin Logan Motion 12's $600 a pair

Can i get some Guidance please.....

Its use is to 60% movies and 40% music My mans room is in a Mid size Basement ...


I also want to add a wayy better sub then i have now, right now i have a Polk cs10

Thanks in advanced....
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M.L Motion 12 or Polk Monitor70

I want to upgrade my HT.....So i went to New Egg site and found these 2 great deals so i need you guys help to lead me in the right direction....I want to upgrade my Polk R50' Towers.. so what which is the better speakers

I don't want to go over $1000 for my Towers.

Polk Audio Monitor70 Series II $ 360 a pair

or

Martin Logan Motion 12's $600 a pair

Can i get some Guidance please.....

Its use is to 60% movies and 40% music My mans room is in a Mid size Basement ...


I also want to add a wayy better sub then i have now, right now i have a Polk cs10

Thanks in advanced....
I had the Monitor 60's, and upgraded to some ML Vistas

I say go with the Logans. Those Polks are incredible for the price newegg sells them, but electrostatic speakers have a greater appeal to me.
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I had the Monitor 60's, and upgraded to some ML Vistas

I say go with the Logans. Those Polks are incredible for the price newegg sells them, but electrostatic speakers have a greater appeal to me.
Motion 12's aren't electrostatic speakers though. They have what they call a Folded Motion transducer or tweeter which is meant to somewhat simulate the sound of an electrostatic speaker. In some respects it works, but in most respects it doesn't. It's a good speaker, but it is not in the same league as any of the electrostatic offerings.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:23 PM   #138
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I was intrigued by getting the EM-FX2 for my surrounds. Have any of you tried them out?
I wonder how they sound for pure movie/gaming setup.
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I've uploaded some pictures of my Martin Logans to my gallery.

Anyone know how to rotate images in the gallery? I'm not sure why some of them are being displayed in landscape format.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:49 PM   #140
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I've been researching new speakers and have seen a lot of buzz about ML. I'd seen them before but knew nothing about electrostatic. Interesting stuff. And I just found out ML is based in Lawrence, Kansas. I lived there 8 years and didn't even know. What's up with that?!
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