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Old 02-28-2012, 10:17 PM   #10281
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I never got that Dallas was being turned into an egg. I just thought he was being saved for later. The alien's gotta eat sometime, right? So I find that interesting. How would a person become an egg?
Dallas wasn't. Just Brett. Dallas would be the host for the facehugger that Brett's egg would create.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:39 PM   #10282
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Dallas wasn't. Just Brett. Dallas would be the host for the facehugger that Brett's egg would create.
Exactly. If you look at the scene in the director's cut, Dallas is intact, but restrained by the resin cocoon. Brett has nearly been completely transformed into an egg. Here is the logic behind this process. The chest burster requires food until it reaches maturity. The adult Alien does not. The adult xenomorph's life span is measured in days, perhaps 4. The xenomorph was reaching the end of its short life span, so, to complete the life cycle, one of the prey, Brett, is turned into an egg. The resulting facehugger will impregnate Dallas, thereby completing the life cycle. The process would continue until no prey remain alive.


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Old 02-29-2012, 12:20 PM   #10283
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that egg scene is actually also cut/shortened if you see the scene in the laserdisc archive


Lambert also ask inside the derilict 'what happened to the rest of the crew' - where the whole crew turned into eggs - remember this is 1979
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:57 PM   #10284
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that egg scene is actually also cut/shortened if you see the scene in the laserdisc archive


Lambert also ask inside the derilict 'what happened to the rest of the crew' - where the whole crew turned into eggs - remember this is 1979
Yes, the laserdisc archive on the Alien Anthology archive BD is the best source, if you have it.

From Wikipedia: Dallas and Brett who have been partially cocooned by the Alien. O'Bannon had intended the scene to indicate that Brett was becoming an Alien egg while Dallas was held nearby to be implanted by the resulting facehugger. Production Designer Michael Seymour later suggested that Dallas had "become sort of food for the alien creature", while Ivor Powell suggested that "Dallas is found in the ship as an egg, still alive." Scott remarked that "they're morphing, metamorphosing, they are changing into...being consumed, I guess, by whatever the Alien's organism is...

I'm going with O'Bannon's take on it. You could make the case that, since the xenomorph abducted Brett before he got Dallas, the additional time had allowed the metamorphosing of Brett to be further along than it was with Dallas.

As for the eggs in the hold of the ship, Ridley Scott continues to support the concept of them as biomechanical weapons. The Space Jockey may have been the only one aboard the Alien ship. Although not conclusive, the clip of the Space Jockey chair rotating up into the pilot chamber shows one lone Engineer/pilot in the Prometheus trailer.

If you have the Alien Anthology, I would recommend watching 'Cocoon of love' which can be found in the Enhancement Pods on the Making of the anthology disk. I think the comments by Skerritt and Scott put to bed the real reasons for the deletion of the scene.

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Old 02-29-2012, 11:16 PM   #10285
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Also regarding Brett and Dallas's final scenes.
Brett's was pretty darn gory(more so in the 2nd cut) while Parker mentioned that they found no blood from Dallas's last location, only his flamethrower.

So I guess the ALIEN stung him with his tail them carried him back to it's makeshift nest.


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Old 02-29-2012, 11:23 PM   #10286
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So I guess the ALIEN stung him with his tail them carried him back to it's makeshift nest.


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Do they "sting" with their tails? What is the result of being "stung" by a xenomorph?
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:56 AM   #10287
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For anyone who dosent have this set and wants it Amazon is selling the UK import for around $30-$33 dollars. I am sure people already know but just posting in case someone does not. My set was damaged by my cousin last year so I will be ordering since its the same exact set as whats in the USA just with UK ratings logos on them
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:06 AM   #10288
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Do they "sting" with their tails? What is the result of being "stung" by a xenomorph?

It was from the ALIENS movie novel.

But from what I remember, Gorman got stung by one, which was part of the reason that he was out of it for a while along with his concussion.
It's purpose is so that the aliens can get the host back to the hive in one piece and impregnated without their objections.

Now, is that from Cameron's movie draft and considered canon, or did Alan Dean Foster just make that up?


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Old 03-01-2012, 02:08 AM   #10289
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It was from the ALIENS movie novel, but from what I remember, Gorman got stung by one which was part of the reason that he was out of it for a while along with his concussion.

Now, is that from Cameron's movie draft and considered cannon, or did Alan Dean Foster make that up?


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I am betting Foster made it up. Read the novelization of Star Wars Episode I and you'll see what I mean.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:47 AM   #10290
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Do they "sting" with their tails? What is the result of being "stung" by a xenomorph?
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:14 AM   #10291
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Still can't believe I don't own this set yet. Might have to keep an eye out on a sale.
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Well, of course, that goes without saying.

I just was curious to know if they had a little "venom" sack tucked away somewhere in there.
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:10 PM   #10293
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Still can't believe I don't own this set yet. Might have to keep an eye out on a sale.
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Well, of course, that goes without saying.

I just was curious to know if they had a little "venom" sack tucked away somewhere in there.
Xenomorph - Tail

"Originally, the Alien's tail was roughly the length of the creature with a small, almost surgical stinger-like barb on the end. From Alien³ onwards, however, the tail has grown in length and now features a knife-like blade at the tip. In Alien: Resurrection and Aliens vs. Predator, the tails have also sported a fin right before the blade. This was introduced in Alien Resurrection to help the creatures swim convincingly, and was left on in Alien vs. Predator as ADI, the company that redesigned the creatures, did not have enough time to alter the designs.

The original shooting script for Aliens features a scene in which Lieutenant Gorman is "stung" by an Alien's stinger. He was not killed, merely stunned, and the barb remained lodged in his shoulder, having torn loose from the Alien's tail, much like a bee stinger. The novelisation also includes this scene, though the movie itself does not. However, this was integrated into Aliens vs. Predator 2. According to the game, the tip of the alien's tail sports a neurotoxin that allows it to stun enemies that it manages to hit."

From a Cameron Fan website. Some side by side comparisons of the Alien's Alien and the Aliens' Alien.

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I chalk up the different tails to be "evolution" since the original ALIEN/egg could have been stasis for centuries before being discovered. ALIENS takes place 57 years later and the Facehuggers that make the aliens in the 2nd film may have been from a different Queen.

The AR paddle and smoother bodies make sense since they probably lost some features and gained some by genetic alteration after multiple cloning attempts.

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I chalk up the different tails to be "evolution" since the original ALIEN/egg could have been stasis for centuries before being discovered. ALIENS takes place 57 years later and the Facehuggers that make the aliens in the 2nd film may have been from a different Queen.

The AR paddle and smoother bodies make sense since they probably lost some features and gained some by genetic alteration after multiple cloning attempts.
That all sounds like a bi of a stretch to me. I'll go with the assumption that the various Directors and artistic talent on each film just decided on subtle alterations to suit their needs.
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Anybody interested? http://www.alienseries.blogspot.com/...echanoids.html


“It created such a benchmark for visual design in science fiction, as well as photography, acting, sound, and editing – all the things that one did not necessarily associate with science fiction.” James Cameron on ALIEN.
“There's also no question that Cameron made an excellent film with Aliens. It really is an achievement.” Ridley Scott on ALIENS
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That all sounds like a bi of a stretch to me. I'll go with the assumption that the various Directors and artistic talent on each film just decided on subtle alterations to suit their needs.
Agreed - this has been happening in film for years so it should be no surprise.
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Just noticed the set is 49.99 at walmart dont know if this is the lowest its been but good deal
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