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Old 03-30-2012, 03:43 PM   #1
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Default Anyone Upgrade to Audyssey X32?

I am running an older Denon Audyssey MultEQ receiver and thinking about upgrading to a new pre/pro with X32. Has anyone directly compared how much different/better X32 is over the MultEQ? Also, is anyone using the external mic and calibrator kit? How do you buy that kit since I don't see it offered at local hifi shops. thanks.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:58 PM   #2
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Over the past year I have used: MCACC, YPAO, MultiEQ XT and now MultiEQ XT32.

The jump from MCACC/YPAO to XT was incredible. Then the jump from XT to XT32 w/SubEQ was also incredible, the bass response now is unreal.

At this point I don't think there is any reason to buy an AVR without it.

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #3
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Thanks Bill. Now I have to figure out which processor to get. I was eying (is that a word, LOL) the new Emotiva pre/pro but it uses something called TACT not Audyssey.

Maybe the new Onkyo or Marantz? Gotta check to see if they support X32.

I don't want to spend more than $2k since I'd have to also get a 7CH amp. I will dump my AVR on Audiogon to use the $$$ for this upgrade.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:05 AM   #4
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Marantz doesn't support xt32, but the Onkyo 3009 or 5009 do. If you can wait the new Onkyo 818 will have xt32 and I think it's coming out in May.
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I've recently upgraded to an XT32 capable machine and I can verify that it works quite well!
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:50 AM   #6
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The new onkyo 818 has xt32 and lists foe 1199.00 due in May. Check out onkyo.com
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:21 AM   #7
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I recently upgraded from an 2EQ to MultEQ XT32 and noticed an improvement. The big bonus of XT32 is the ability to EQ two subs. I have only one sub so I can't comment on that particular feature, but based on other comments I understand it to be invaluable.

I got my Denon 4311 for $1,299 through Electronics Expo. (Listed at MSRP so you have to call the sales desk to get the discount.)
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #8
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Over the past year I have used: MCACC, YPAO, MultiEQ XT and now MultiEQ XT32.

The jump from MCACC/YPAO to XT was incredible. Then the jump from XT to XT32 w/SubEQ was also incredible, the bass response now is unreal.

At this point I don't think there is any reason to buy an AVR without it.

Bill
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Your comments regarding the new XT32 are really making me want to try-out a new AVR. I made the mistake of switching AVRs (Onkyo to Elite), speakers and adding an XPA-3 all at the same time last year, and I'm just not thrilled with my sound. I don't really think it's s the speakers, and am leaning toward the Elite w/MCACC versus Onkyo w/Audyssey.

I may have to take a serious look at upgrading my AVR...again!
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So far, I like what I see in the 818. I have been dragging my feet to upgrade my 805 (they don't make 'em like this anymore), but the 818 may have me looking. I was also thinking about either the 3009 or 5009, but the 818 + XPA-3 amp would still be cheaper than either 3009 or 5009. Decisions, decisions!!
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:00 PM   #10
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Damn you, Bill!

Your comments regarding the new XT32 are really making me want to try-out a new AVR. I made the mistake of switching AVRs (Onkyo to Elite), speakers and adding an XPA-3 all at the same time last year, and I'm just not thrilled with my sound. I don't really think it's s the speakers, and am leaning toward the Elite w/MCACC versus Onkyo w/Audyssey.

I may have to take a serious look at upgrading my AVR...again!
I would lay my money on the receiver change being the difference as well. The 4311ci is hard to pass up at the price you can get it for but I understand not wanting to spend the money after having done all that last year. I have some things I want to do but probably won't be until fall before I do any of them the yard is going to take priority this summer
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:11 PM   #11
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I'm getting my new 4311ci today and pairing it with my new KEF Q900 and Q600 center speaker. But will only have a little bit of time with the 4311ci. I'll be in Hawaii by the weekend with my family vacation.
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I would lay my money on the receiver change being the difference as well. The 4311ci is hard to pass up at the price you can get it for but I understand not wanting to spend the money after having done all that last year. I have some things I want to do but probably won't be until fall before I do any of them the yard is going to take priority this summer
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Well, I think I've talked myself out of a new mower for now, so....

Still, it's hard to justify after buying a new AVR just last year. But, I'm sure I can sell mine for a decent price on eBay.
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So far, I like what I see in the 818. I have been dragging my feet to upgrade my 805 (they don't make 'em like this anymore), but the 818 may have me looking. I was also thinking about either the 3009 or 5009, but the 818 + XPA-3 amp would still be cheaper than either 3009 or 5009. Decisions, decisions!!
It took some serious teeth pulling to get me to upgrade my 805 to the 5008. I still have the 805, I just moved it into my bedroom.
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Over the past year I have used: MCACC, YPAO, MultiEQ XT and now MultiEQ XT32.

The jump from MCACC/YPAO to XT was incredible. Then the jump from XT to XT32 w/SubEQ was also incredible, the bass response now is unreal.

At this point I don't think there is any reason to buy an AVR without it.

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Old 04-07-2012, 08:14 PM   #16
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Another vote for Anthem's ARC....

I haven't heard the results of using XT32, but ARC was a great improvement over my Denon 4810, which I think had just XT..

The MRX-500/ XPA-3 is a great combo at a very affordable price. Some even use just the MRX-300 paired with a XPA-3 and feel it does a great job.

Eventually I might add a XPA-2 to power my fronts..
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I really don't think you'll go wrong with either!
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #18
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Another vote for Anthem's ARC....

I haven't heard the results of using XT32, but ARC was a great improvement over my Denon 4810, which I think had just XT..

The MRX-500/ XPA-3 is a great combo at a very affordable price. Some even use just the MRX-300 paired with a XPA-3 and feel it does a great job.

Eventually I might add a XPA-2 to power my fronts..
Problem with anthems isn't their correction technology. It is great. It's the lack of features that are the problem. If i am paying the price for an mrx 700, i can do far better for my money with other manufacturers.
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Based on my experience the switch from my 805 with has XT to the 3009 I can say that the sound quality has definately improved. XT was no slouch but the surrounds are more active, you're able to discern more surround effects. The low end really benefited from the XT32 calibration, more slam less boom, nice, tight and articulate. For music the 3009 has a nice warmth to it, with airy highs and deep lows. You can pick out individual instruments better.

Lots have been said of the sonic change the recent Onkyos have exhibited. And I can confirm that the sound is less in your face, in fact I find it neutral with a little bit of warmth. It's really a good match for my PSB Image set up.
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ARC...
ARC, do you mean audio return channel...just kidding

I've heard good things about ARC, but it doesn't EQ two subs and you will miss out on Audyssey features such as Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume and DSX. The Dynamic EQ really improves things when listening at lower volumes.
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