The Avengers

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Kind of a low blow. Using those terms as endearment doesn't mean their opinions are any less valid than a critics, or yours.

No I get what you're saying but like you said on the last page I really don't put a lot of stock into the words of superfans right after a premier. A critic would tend to be more level headed and fair. Heck, people are inexplicably saying good things about Battleship.

Ultimately the only opinion I really put any real stock into is my own, the way it should be for everybody. My tickets are already bought.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Snicket

I'm seeing them as well, I want some critic tweets though (If there were any on hand). I don't trust people who use the words "geek-out" or "epicness" when they describe a film, because they would probably like anything if that's their vocabulary.

A lot of those are bloggers and critics. Their opinion should really matter more to you, because they're a fans eyes into what we expect. At least in my opinion. If they love it, that says something to me.

[RJ Smoove]

Point taken. I agree.

[RJ Smoove]

Major spoiler!!

[Show spoiler]We were right, it seems. The aliens are Skrulls. They're just called by their Utimate universe name in the film, hence the "they're not Skrulls" responses in interviews.

Don't click it. You know you don't want to.

[Michael Bay Fan]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Major spoiler!!

[Show spoiler]We were right, it seems. The aliens are Skrulls. They're just called by their Utimate universe name in the film, hence the "they're not Skrulls" responses in interviews.

Don't click it. You know you don't want to.

I clicked it.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

A lot of those are bloggers and critics. Their opinion should really matter more to you, because they're a fans eyes into what we expect. At least in my opinion. If they love it, that says something to me.

A blogger is a far cry from a critic in most cases in my eyes. In the end other peoples opinions don't really effect me one way or the other I just like to see other people interpretations, that why I like to read reviews, but it ultimately has no bearing on my own thoughts.

Reading those tweets again you can't take yourself seriously if you reaction to the film was "My body is still recovering from non-stop geeking out". Seriously? Overreact much?


EDIT: I see Variety liked it. I suppose it's hard to properly sum it up in 140 characters or less.

[rubystone356]

mind passing the links for others to read.
thanks

Jacob

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Snicket

A blogger is a far cry from a critic in most cases in my eyes. In the end other peoples opinions don't really effect me one way or the other I just like to see other people interpretations, that why I like to read reviews, but it ultimately has no bearing on my own thoughts.

Reading those tweets again you can't take yourself seriously if you reaction to the film was "My body is still recovering from non-stop geeking out". Seriously? Overreact much?


EDIT: I see Variety liked it. I suppose it's hard to properly sum it up in 140 characters or less.

Acting like a blogger is less than a critic is kinda ridiculous, in my opinion at least. They do the same things critics do, go to the same events, and do all the same things. They're still critics, more aimed at us then them. I think it's more that you don't want them Geeking out, which isn't really fair. They're allowed to geek out too. and I don't find them overreacting. They loved the movie. They're geeks. We haven't had anything like this before. Nothing wrong with that at all. but hey, that's my opinion.

[Blu-Generation]

It's all compile here.

Please read at your own risk.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=57776

Do not click or read anything if you fear spoiler. Not that I've encounter any (yet). But I'm sure it'll float around.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Acting like a blogger is less than a critic is kinda ridiculous, in my opinion at least. They do the same things critics do, go to the same events, and do all the same things. They're still critics, more aimed at us then them. I think it's more that you don't want them Geeking out, which isn't really fair. They're allowed to geek out too. and I don't find them overreacting. They loved the movie. They're geeks. We haven't had anything like this before. Nothing wrong with that at all. but hey, that's my opinion.

Anybody with a computer can be a blogger. It's like the difference between a student filmmaker and a professional, do they do the same thing? Yes, but one has real training and experience. Sure there are some great student filmakers out there just as there are great bloggers. But one does not equal the other. I don't expect a trained critic to say "I'm geeking out". But I'm not trying to take anything away from the fans, they are more than welcome to their geeking, it's just there is a difference to me between the two.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Anybody with a computer can be a blogger. It's like the difference between a student filmmaker and a professional, do they do the same thing? Yes, but one has real training and experience. Sure there are some great student filmakers out there just as there are great bloggers. But one does not equal the other. I don't expect a trained critic to say "I'm geeking out". But I'm not trying to take anything away from the fans, they are more than welcome to their geeking, it's just there is a difference to me between the two.

I value the opinions of bloggers and fellow fans far more than critics. Most critics are jaded snobs who don't know how to just enjoy a film and hate anything popular.

In this day and age, professional film critics are obsolete. I'd love to see the whole profession die. (The jobs, not the people )

[Jumpman]

Okay, send the crow my way. I'm in a state of shock right now.

On another forum, one member who's opinion on this genre is pretty much identical to mine just weighed in on the film after the premiere and like me, was supremely skeptical about the film and the type of films Marvel Studios' has made.

To put it simple, this person says that it's Marvel Studios' first real cinematic experience. The best they've done by far.

He ranked it tied for second with X2 (which is a film that people tend to forget in this genre) and only behind the Dark Knight, which is my number one.

He says it's not cheesy or a comedy, that surprisingly, Widow is our way into the world and that Whedon has found a great way to justify her being a part of the film.

Again, this person is speechless on how much he loved the film. This person felt that this film felt like a significant shift in terms of how Marvel/Disney will go forward from now on....says that Whedon has figured out a way to take chances in the film, while also being sort of predictable when you sit back and think about what has led up to it.

Again, I'm stunned. I was waiting for this reaction and but I wasn't prepared for this reaction.

[cinemaphile]

That's awesome to hear.

54 hours and counting!

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

That's awesome to hear.

54 hours and counting!

You're telling me!

I just knew, while this person was always skeptical and critical of Marvel Studios, that this person would, at least, be fair about it because they, while admitting to being a fanboy, is more interested in this genre in terms of how these movies work as films FIRST and how they work for fanboys a DISTANCE SECOND.

And, I'm the same way, because these movies are my way into the characters and the world because I didn't grow up with this stuff. I have a limited knowledge of all the characters but I want to know how they work as films first...

....so, it was a pleasant surprise to read this person's reaction.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

And, I'm the same way, because these movies are my way into the characters and the world because I didn't grow up with this stuff. I have a limited knowledge of all the characters but I want to know how they work as films first...

....so, it was a pleasant surprise to read this person's reaction.

oh, im the same way - prior to the previous films, I've been familiar with the characters, but I dont think I've ever read a single comic with them unless it was a guest appearance. (When I was into comics, I was an X-Men guy)

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

oh, im the same way - prior to the previous films, I've been familiar with the characters, but I dont think I've ever read a single comic with them unless it was a guest appearance. (When I was into comics, I was an X-Men guy)

See, I didn't get that far. Besides the obvious ones (Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man based on cartoons as a kid), I knew nothing.

My entry way into this whole thing was the X-Men cartoon in the 90's. After that, Batman the animated series.

It wasn't until the genre popped off in the cinema that I started to really pay attention. I didn't buy my first comic until V for Vendetta was about to hit the screen. Soon after, I was trying to understand the buzz on Iron Man when someone suggested that I read Extremis.

After that, it was reading Watchmen before seeing Watchmen and slightly prior to Nolan's Begins, I read Batman Year One and figured out that the Long Halloween and Dark Victory were sort of a trilogy so I read those.

And since then, I've only read three more; Superman Earth One, Superman Birthright, and Origins.

Because of the nature of medium, I won't continue to read them because I'm not big on open ended, but if it's something like a self-contained story like the Earth One series, I might give it a peek now.

I like definitive endings and comics don't give those with any real meaning.

This is why I'm excited for Dark Knight Rises and I was hoping, while still knowing that they're going to make more, that Avengers was a definite ending. Maybe by Avengers 3, it'll have a definite ending.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

I value the opinions of bloggers and fellow fans far more than critics. Most critics are jaded snobs who don't know how to just enjoy a film and hate anything popular.

In this day and age, professional film critics are obsolete. I'd love to see the whole profession die. (The jobs, not the people )

u sir hit the nail on the head!!

glad to see people like myself enjoying the movie....i could care less what some 40+ year old fart thinks of this movie!!

or what some heartless bastard who hated toy story (i'm looking @ you armond white!!! ) thinks of the avengers!!!

[Dave_6]

I just want to see Thor and Hulk fight it out!

[Taipan]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Mark Ruffalo IGN Interview

I'm glad they chose Ruffalo for Hulk.

Thanks for posting that interview man.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

u sir hit the nail on the head!!

glad to see people like myself enjoying the movie....i could care less what some 40+ year old fart thinks of this movie!!

hey, be careful now.... I'm 39! We aren't all joyless stiffs!