Best 3D Blu-ray Deals

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | Price drops  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Japan
Spider-Man: Homecoming 3D (Blu-ray)
$14.99
 
Gamer 3D (Blu-ray)
$5.00
 
Monster House 3D (Blu-ray)
$9.99
 
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 3D (Blu-ray)
$10.95
 
Humpback Whales 4K + 3D (Blu-ray)
$12.44
 
Dream Big: Engineering Our World 4K (Blu-ray)
$22.96
 
Katy Perry: Part of Me 3D (Blu-ray)
$7.85
 
Finding Nemo 3D (Blu-ray)
$24.50
 
Dolphin Tale 3D (Blu-ray)
$11.99
 
The Great Gatsby 3D (Blu-ray)
$9.33
 
Walking With Dinosaurs: The Movie 3D (Blu-ray)
$14.99
3 hrs ago
The Amazing Spider-Man 3D (Blu-ray)
$30.12
 
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > 3D > 3D Blu-ray and 3D Movies


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-13-2012, 04:52 AM   #21
BleedOrange11 BleedOrange11 is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
BleedOrange11's Avatar
 
Sep 2011
Galveston, TX
349
25
29
2
Default

Are you talking about floating windows? That's a 3D post-process technique to reduce window violations and allow for more comfortable viewing of negative parallax. The 3D/2D combo discs really aren't the best for 2D viewing.

http://digitalcinema.disney.com/dc3dFloatWinMov.aspx
Vizio E3D420VX 3DTV, LG BP550, 160GB PS3, Onkyo HT-S3500 5.1 Home Theater, Sony MDR-DS7500 7.1 Headphones

Last edited by BleedOrange11; 04-13-2012 at 04:56 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 05:00 AM   #22
Zivouhr Zivouhr is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
Zivouhr's Avatar
 
Dec 2011
USA
124
Question

The side bars you speak of, not sure if that's something specific to that movie or your projector set up. Did you notice that same effect on another 3D movie just to test it out?

On all of my 3D movies, 18+, I've never seen this happen.

The only logical explanation, if it was in fact the movie being the source of the bars on the sides, could be post 3D editing, where they zoom in to crop the shot for the purpose of converging the 3D so it's easier to view. When that's done, depending on the 3D editor, there's a slight chance by zooming in too far, the edges eventually begin to crop and end up as black bars.

I could be way off there, it's just a theory. I don't have Hugo 3D yet, but saw it in theaters and didn't notice this.
List of Strong 3D Movies on Blu Ray 3D / Most PSVR PS4 games with strong stereo 3D
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 05:07 AM   #23
Zivouhr Zivouhr is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
Zivouhr's Avatar
 
Dec 2011
USA
124
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BleedOrange11 View Post
Are you talking about floating windows? That's a 3D post-process technique to reduce window violations and allow for more comfortable viewing of negative parallax. The 3D/2D combo discs really aren't the best for 2D viewing.

http://digitalcinema.disney.com/dc3dFloatWinMov.aspx
We're both on the same page with what the black bars could be, thanks for the link.
List of Strong 3D Movies on Blu Ray 3D / Most PSVR PS4 games with strong stereo 3D
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 10:11 AM   #24
Qorax Qorax is offline
Member
 
Qorax's Avatar
 
Apr 2012
Toronto-Canada
48
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Badas View Post
Maybe I can get some informed information.

I recently received Hugo 3D/2D from the UK.

The 3D/2D is on the same disc. When I select 2D the movie plays with great detail and clarity. However the aspect ratio changes from scene to scene. The side is slightly cropped and they move in and out. Quite a bit from what I've seen. About 10%. Player and Projector had 3D turned off. Checked on my other 2D only TV, same result.

I guess this something to do with the 3D process. I have just ordered the US 2D only version to see if that is fixed.

However I will stop collecting the 3D/2D versions of movies if this is a ongoing issue.

Thanks in advance.

Ta Dono
I've couple of 2D/3D discs (not the Hugo, my pkg had separate discs) and I never checked their 2D versions. However, due to ur this post I went back & tested their 2D renditions (two movies)... They were fine... Everything as it should be, as with other direct 2D blu-rays.

IMHO, ur this particular disc could be defective.
TV: Sony-Bravia 55HX820 | 3D Player: Sony BDP-BX58 | Home Theatre: Harman-Kardon HS300-ME | Gaming: Sony PS3 Slim + PS-3D Display/TV
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 11:41 AM   #25
Nommag Nommag is offline
Special Member
 
Nommag's Avatar
 
Jul 2011
Hamilton, New Zealand.
6
170
22
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Badas View Post
Maybe I can get some informed information.

I recently received Hugo 3D/2D from the UK.

The 3D/2D is on the same disc. When I select 2D the movie plays with great detail and clarity. However the aspect ratio changes from scene to scene. The side is slightly cropped and they move in and out. Quite a bit from what I've seen. About 10%. Player and Projector had 3D turned off. Checked on my other 2D only TV, same result.

I guess this something to do with the 3D process. I have just ordered the US 2D only version to see if that is fixed.

However I will stop collecting the 3D/2D versions of movies if this is a ongoing issue.

Thanks in advance.

Ta Dono
I got the same Hugo disc and will watch it tomorrow and tell you if I see anything. And you don't have to stop buying 2d and 3d combo packs because you can always sell me the 3d discs since your local
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 02:44 PM   #26
keb33509 keb33509 is offline
Special Member
 
keb33509's Avatar
 
Aug 2011
442
73
Default

It has got to be floating window. Since the 2D version is on the same disk as 3D, I am guessing they are only playing back "one eye" instead of the original 2D encode.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2012, 09:26 PM   #27
Pfreddy Pfreddy is offline
Active Member
 
Pfreddy's Avatar
 
Apr 2011
Upstate New York
47
Default

There's a sticky at the top of this forum dedicated to this topic....but to be honest, it's not super informative!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 01:07 PM   #28
Zivouhr Zivouhr is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
Zivouhr's Avatar
 
Dec 2011
USA
124
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred0527 View Post
The only logical explanation, if it was in fact the movie being the source of the bars on the sides, could be post 3D editing, where they zoom in to crop the shot for the purpose of converging the 3D so it's easier to view. When that's done, depending on the 3D editor, there's a slight chance by zooming in too far, the edges eventually begin to crop and end up as black bars.


That sounds like a reasonable answer.
List of Strong 3D Movies on Blu Ray 3D / Most PSVR PS4 games with strong stereo 3D
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 09:25 PM   #29
Badas Badas is offline
Blu-ray Knight
 
Badas's Avatar
 
Aug 2008
LOTR Auckland, New Zealand (Down Under)
117
2269
24
11
10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BleedOrange11 View Post
Are you talking about floating windows? That's a 3D post-process technique to reduce window violations and allow for more comfortable viewing of negative parallax. The 3D/2D combo discs really aren't the best for 2D viewing.

http://digitalcinema.disney.com/dc3dFloatWinMov.aspx
Yeah, It was kinda like that, however it was not floating. What I mean is that they don't move slowly like that video. On Hugo they jumped dramatically in and out on both sides of the screen. Very distracting.

Yeah, I won't buy a 3D/2D combo disc again. I will make sure they are on 2 different discs. I have ordered the 2D US version of Hugo to solve this issue.

Ta Dono
Source: 2x Oppo BDP-103D's (Bluray, CD, and SACD), PS3, PS4, Project 1.3 turntable.
Amplification: Marantz SR7009, 2x Marantz MM7055's (10 amps bi-amping 5 channels).
Speakers: (Atmos 5.3.2): 4 x Polk RTiA7's, Polk CSP 1000, 2x Atlantic TLC-8.2, Polk PSW1200, 2x SVS SB Ultra 13's and triple buttkicker system.
Projection: Dreamvision Siglos 3 Tentation Ltd. 4KUHD.
Headgear: iPod in Arcam Dock, Schiit Yggdrasil DAC, Woo WA22(tube amp), Violectric V281(SS amp), Aeon Open, HD6xx, AQ Hawks.

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2012, 09:31 PM   #30
Badas Badas is offline
Blu-ray Knight
 
Badas's Avatar
 
Aug 2008
LOTR Auckland, New Zealand (Down Under)
117
2269
24
11
10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zivouhr View Post
The side bars you speak of, not sure if that's something specific to that movie or your projector set up. Did you notice that same effect on another 3D movie just to test it out?

On all of my 3D movies, 18+, I've never seen this happen.

The only logical explanation, if it was in fact the movie being the source of the bars on the sides, could be post 3D editing, where they zoom in to crop the shot for the purpose of converging the 3D so it's easier to view. When that's done, depending on the 3D editor, there's a slight chance by zooming in too far, the edges eventually begin to crop and end up as black bars.

I could be way off there, it's just a theory. I don't have Hugo 3D yet, but saw it in theaters and didn't notice this.
Yeah, I have Tintin 3D and 2D. They are on different discs. No issue at all of Tintin 2D. No cropping issues.

I saw Hugo in 3D at the Cinema. It had the same thing. Black bars moving in from side to side. However I think it was a awful setup, because there also was heaps of ghosting. I was also sitting bang in the middle (best spot).

Ta Dono
Source: 2x Oppo BDP-103D's (Bluray, CD, and SACD), PS3, PS4, Project 1.3 turntable.
Amplification: Marantz SR7009, 2x Marantz MM7055's (10 amps bi-amping 5 channels).
Speakers: (Atmos 5.3.2): 4 x Polk RTiA7's, Polk CSP 1000, 2x Atlantic TLC-8.2, Polk PSW1200, 2x SVS SB Ultra 13's and triple buttkicker system.
Projection: Dreamvision Siglos 3 Tentation Ltd. 4KUHD.
Headgear: iPod in Arcam Dock, Schiit Yggdrasil DAC, Woo WA22(tube amp), Violectric V281(SS amp), Aeon Open, HD6xx, AQ Hawks.

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 10:51 PM   #31
Paul H Paul H is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Paul H's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebard View Post
I'm surprised no one has actually referenced the source on this topic:

http://digitalcinema.disney.com/dc3dFloatWinMov.aspx
http://www.lightillusion.com/stereos...tingwindow.htm
Both of the above links no longer work.

Here is another site with a good explanation for the purpose for 3D Floating Windows and why it is important not to cover up the areas with masking in theaters or why they should not change the aspect ratio to fill the television screen when playing 3D scope movies via 3D Blu-ray for home viewing.

Cine Tech Geek for 3D Windows


Paul
Avatar: IMAX Header
BD 3D, BD, HD DVD, DVD collection
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 03:48 AM   #32
sookymonster sookymonster is offline
Special Member
 
sookymonster's Avatar
 
Apr 2012
89
Default

I love floating windows and dont understand the hate for them.

I prefer to not have screen violations and I love the idea behind them which I find fascinating, along with 3D conversions.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 06:44 PM   #33
Big3dfan Big3dfan is offline
Expert Member
 
Jan 2012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sookymonster View Post
I love floating windows and dont understand the hate for them.

I prefer to not have screen violations and I love the idea behind them which I find fascinating, along with 3D conversions.
I used to think that one just needs to disable 3D on their display to get the 2D version of the disk, only to realize these floating winodws will be very obvious in 2D and hence 3D disabled is not same as native 2D.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 07:05 PM   #34
Paul H Paul H is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Paul H's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big3dfan View Post
I used to think that one just needs to disable 3D on their display to get the 2D version of the disk, only to realize these floating winodws will be very obvious in 2D and hence 3D disabled is not same as native 2D.
True, but it varies and some don't use them. In the past I've found the same IMAX "Under the Sea" program on two of the 3D DirecTV channels that exhibits floating windows.
Have to disable the 3D capability to watch the 3D channels in 2D.
The surprise comes when I bought the Blu-ray 3D of the same movie and I noticed right away that the same native-3D scenes on BD3D disc do not have floating windows! Guess it depends on how much 3D affect DirecTV wants to emphasize, but when comparing the two I fail to see a depth difference. One is broadcast in 1080i 3D and the BD 3D is 1080P Full HD, so maybe that compensates.

Paul
Avatar: IMAX Header
BD 3D, BD, HD DVD, DVD collection

Last edited by Paul H; 01-14-2013 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Spelling: emphasize
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 12:42 PM   #35
tigermoth tigermoth is offline
Active Member
 
Oct 2011
Default

I used to hate floating windows but now I realize that coving the violation makes the 3D that is causing the violation feel solid and like it is in a space that is in a comfortable depth bracket. I think it really helps the 3D effect and improves it in a lot of cases. Plus they can be used in other creative manners. I think people need to realise that you really aren't loosing screen space and that when these bars appear they are helping improve the 3D effect. If you are watching in a dark room and your TV should have a black frame you won't even notice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 12:53 PM   #36
Deciazulado Deciazulado is offline
Site Manager
 
Deciazulado's Avatar
 
Aug 2006
USiberia
6
2847
2803
Default

Also, if you watch movies at movie sizes, the edges, are on your peripheral vision and you're not watching the black bars.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 03:52 AM   #37
sookymonster sookymonster is offline
Special Member
 
sookymonster's Avatar
 
Apr 2012
89
Smile

I've noticed that have been less floating windows than there were just 2-3 years ago.

As a matter of fact I can't remember the last new release that has incorparated them.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 08:33 AM   #38
AIMERCURY AIMERCURY is offline
New Member
 
Nov 2013
Default 3d movies strain on my eys

3d movies suck, after a couple of minutes my eyes ghurt, plus the picture quality is ruined.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 10:15 AM   #39
sookymonster sookymonster is offline
Special Member
 
sookymonster's Avatar
 
Apr 2012
89
Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by AIMERCURY View Post
3d movies suck, after a couple of minutes my eyes ghurt, plus the picture quality is ruined.
then why the hell are you posting in a 3d forum?

I hope I haven't ghurt your feelings...
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Billymonster (05-16-2016), nycomet (02-02-2015), Paul H (10-11-2014), Ray O. Blu (10-11-2014)
Old 10-11-2014, 12:12 PM   #40
Clinton3779 Clinton3779 is offline
Active Member
 
Clinton3779's Avatar
 
Nov 2011
Oshawa, Ontario
110
885
23
4
Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by AIMERCURY View Post
3d movies suck, after a couple of minutes my eyes ghurt, plus the picture quality is ruined.
3d Movies don't like you much either so no worries man!
Slight 3d addidction!
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > 3D > 3D Blu-ray and 3D Movies


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:47 AM.