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Old 06-11-2012, 02:44 AM   #921
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Nothing all that exciting.

My daughter has decided she wants to play baseball, so we went and got her a mitt and bat. Been playing a lot of catch and having her hit me the ball off of a tee.

Did a bit of biking with her on the really tame trails in the woods across the street. Some kids have built a jump back there and she wanted to see me go off of it, went a couple of times and then she wanted to see some bigger air. Tried to hit it hard and fast, then totally bailed. Hurt my leg a little bit but I'll live, done a lot worse before.

Going to watch Act of Valor tonight, don't have high expectations but it should look and sound good.

I listened to that Melody Gerot cd the last time I bought some music, not sure if I'll pick that one up. From the quick listen I did not sure how much I'd get into it. I'll take another listen next time I'm there to make sure.

No surrounds? The Missions aren't really that bad for surrounds, better suited for surround backs IMO but they get the job done.

I'm really starting to be satisfied with how things have turned out, got a four things on my list that I would like to get but only one I'm in a hurry to get. The others will come eventually, no rush at all.

Sounds like your desire for more/better gear has really died down as well, it is somewhat of a good feeling though. Of course there's other things I'd like to try, the only problem is I don't want to pay for them.
thats cool, I cant wait until my son or daughters want to play sports.
I want to watch that movie act of valor also, let me know what you think.
The Missions arent bad, they are ran a little hot by audyssey, I was thinking if Im gonna invest that much into surrounds, why not get the best mains for me, which would be the 160s. Id almost rather pay for a pair of Energy RC-10s for $300, theyd be great surrounds without having to pay so much for them. Maybe I can find a pair of used Monitor Audio RS1s or new PSB B5s, or something when the time is right.

Good for you that you feel you are about done, what else are you thinking you need to do? The 4 things?
Video: Panasonic 55" P55ST50, Oppo BDP-103
Amplification: Integra DTR-40.2, Naim Nait 5i-2 Integrated, Jolida FX Tube DAC
Speakers: Dynaudio Focus 160s, Excite X22 Center, DM 2/6
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:53 AM   #922
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The reviews weren't good on Act of Valor but I liked it. I ordered that Melody Gardot cd along with a few others last week. I should have it this week. I previewed some of it and I think it will be a cd that grows on me. The new stands look good Andrew. I think I have my iMac sold. If so I'll order a Parasound a23. Finding I've no need of 3 Mac computers with my iPad.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:07 AM   #923
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thats cool, I cant wait until my son or daughters want to play sports.
I want to watch that movie act of valor also, let me know what you think.
The Missions arent bad, they are ran a little hot by audyssey, I was thinking if Im gonna invest that much into surrounds, why not get the best mains for me, which would be the 160s. Id almost rather pay for a pair of Energy RC-10s for $300, theyd be great surrounds without having to pay so much for them. Maybe I can find a pair of used Monitor Audio RS1s or new PSB B5s, or something when the time is right.

Good for you that you feel you are about done, what else are you thinking you need to do? The 4 things?
My daughter is quite active with sports, loves to play soccer as well, her skating keeps her busy though as it continues through the summer. She's determined to win a competition next season and wants all the practice she can get. It's good for her to try other things so we encourage her to explore other sports as well.

I'm sure you'll come up with the best combo to suit your tastes, no matter what that may be. I think you should still go with some Dyn surrounds but if not having them doesn't bother you that's great. I couldn't bring myself to do it, but then again I can get a little retarded about that type of thing.

This week I think I'll order the Mini DSP eq for my subs, the other three remaining items would be as follows,

1. Audyssey Pro Kit
2. Finish off replacing the power cords and whatever other cables I would like to try.
3. Another sub, not really needed but 4 is cooler than 3 and just because I want to. No real practical reasons at all.

A new display would be nice but I'm still determined to finish the audio first. I'd love to try a couple of other brands of speakers but just don't want to put the money out because of curiousity anymore. Maybe one day but for now I'm holding down the fort with my Digms.

Has your list pretty much stayed the same from what you've previously stated?
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:13 AM   #924
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The reviews weren't good on Act of Valor but I liked it. I ordered that Melody Gardot cd along with a few others last week. I should have it this week. I previewed some of it and I think it will be a cd that grows on me. The new stands look good Andrew. I think I have my iMac sold. If so I'll order a Parasound a23. Finding I've no need of 3 Mac computers with my iPad.
Thanks Sean.

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That's sweet about the A23, it should serve you well. Did you check Audio Advisor? Sometimes they have the Halo amps as B-Stock for some descent prices, I forgot to mention that to you earlier.

Hopefully the deal for your Mac goes through, can't imagine why you'd need that many for yourself. Good call on selling it as I'm sure the cash will be more useful.

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Old 06-11-2012, 03:56 AM   #925
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My daughter is quite active with sports, loves to play soccer as well, her skating keeps her busy though as it continues through the summer. She's determined to win a competition next season and wants all the practice she can get. It's good for her to try other things so we encourage her to explore other sports as well.

I'm sure you'll come up with the best combo to suit your tastes, no matter what that may be. I think you should still go with some Dyn surrounds but if not having them doesn't bother you that's great. I couldn't bring myself to do it, but then again I can get a little retarded about that type of thing.

This week I think I'll order the Mini DSP eq for my subs, the other three remaining items would be as follows,

1. Audyssey Pro Kit
2. Finish off replacing the power cords and whatever other cables I would like to try.
3. Another sub, not really needed but 4 is cooler than 3 and just because I want to. No real practical reasons at all.

A new display would be nice but I'm still determined to finish the audio first. I'd love to try a couple of other brands of speakers but just don't want to put the money out because of curiousity anymore. Maybe one day but for now I'm holding down the fort with my Digms.

Has your list pretty much stayed the same from what you've previously stated?
I want more dynamics in back more then anything, I just cant find a pair of DM2/6s for that cheap very often at the time I have the money to make it a great buy. Im not too worried about matching surrounds, but it would be nice. Maybe I just need to get the 160s, keep the Missions until I get DMs. Im just gonna stick with this sub until it dies I think, its good for what Im using it for.

However, when Im home, Im more interested in 2-ch then Movies lately. But being home is seldom, tomorrow church study, tuesday disneyland in the evening, friday a bar with my buddy for his bday(maybe) and sunday Disney for fathers day.

I will say that having the dac has made me more interested in music then before; so its doing something. Im not sure what to do with the TT, I use it, but not a lot, I could sell it for a little spare cash, and get a dedicated CDP or the Oppo 93. But then I still enjoy LPs here and there, espcially the ones that I bought just for the TT. Id hate to trade in the LPs and have to rebuy the cds.

I think my priority would be the 160s and a new display as 1, 2. BUT, taking my wife to Hawaii is more important to me atm, its time to do something nice for her, just me and her.
Video: Panasonic 55" P55ST50, Oppo BDP-103
Amplification: Integra DTR-40.2, Naim Nait 5i-2 Integrated, Jolida FX Tube DAC
Speakers: Dynaudio Focus 160s, Excite X22 Center, DM 2/6
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:23 AM   #926
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I want more dynamics in back more then anything, I just cant find a pair of DM2/6s for that cheap very often at the time I have the money to make it a great buy. Im not too worried about matching surrounds, but it would be nice. Maybe I just need to get the 160s, keep the Missions until I get DMs. Im just gonna stick with this sub until it dies I think, its good for what Im using it for.

However, when Im home, Im more interested in 2-ch then Movies lately. But being home is seldom, tomorrow church study, tuesday disneyland in the evening, friday a bar with my buddy for his bday(maybe) and sunday Disney for fathers day.

I will say that having the dac has made me more interested in music then before; so its doing something. Im not sure what to do with the TT, I use it, but not a lot, I could sell it for a little spare cash, and get a dedicated CDP or the Oppo 93. But then I still enjoy LPs here and there, espcially the ones that I bought just for the TT. Id hate to trade in the LPs and have to rebuy the cds.

I think my priority would be the 160s and a new display as 1, 2. BUT, taking my wife to Hawaii is more important to me atm, its time to do something nice for her, just me and her.
Sometimes the differences between gear isn't as readily apparent as we like to think, something's I've been able to tell right away and others over time really grow on me. I think with some more time you'll come to appreciate the setup you've put together even more.

Do you think the 160's are really that much better than your Excites?

If someone was coming over for a demo what would be your go to track be?

For me it would be Cold Shoulder from Adele 19, the sense of space and the also most surround like sound coming from just two speakers is pretty cool. When the background vocals kick in it sounds like the surround speakers are on.

That being said I haven't spent much time watching or listening to much down there, been to busy frack in around with the setup and staring at graphs. When that's been done it's too late to watch anything on that system. Been watching any movies I've seen lately in our bedroom. I've gotten past that phase and now know what needs to be done, until then I'm just going to use the manual eq setup I did and it is what it is.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:18 AM   #927
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Sometimes the differences between gear isn't as readily apparent as we like to think, something's I've been able to tell right away and others over time really grow on me. I think with some more time you'll come to appreciate the setup you've put together even more.

Do you think the 160's are really that much better than your Excites?

If someone was coming over for a demo what would be your go to track be?

For me it would be Cold Shoulder from Adele 19, the sense of space and the also most surround like sound coming from just two speakers is pretty cool. When the background vocals kick in it sounds like the surround speakers are on.

That being said I haven't spent much time watching or listening to much down there, been to busy frack in around with the setup and staring at graphs. When that's been done it's too late to watch anything on that system. Been watching any movies I've seen lately in our bedroom. I've gotten past that phase and now know what needs to be done, until then I'm just going to use the manual eq setup I did and it is what it is.
Yeah I know what you mean, the rDAC wasnt a huge difference right away, but the more I use it, the more I love the setups sound with it over what Ive heard out of it in the past.

Im not sure how much better the highs and upper mids will be, as the Excites pour out the details lately thru those regions, Im surprised by how much detail they have shown. Heck tonight my wife was finishing This Means War, and there was a license plate flying thru the air, and you could just slightly hear the whirling of the plate. However the Focus is using a variation of the Esotar 2 tweeter you got to hear from the C1s. The other thing is the bass levels from the X16s to the 160s, that would be a big upgrade. Compare the bass from your Studio 20s to the C1s, OK, the X16s might be a touch bassier over the 20s, maybe, and the 160s is very near the C1s bass, so you can see that there the biggest improvement would be made. But sometimes the bass on the X16s is plenty. The 160s have a little more top-end sparkle to them too.

My top track for a demo would be Eva Cassidy Fields of Gold, its such a great rendition of that song, just an electric acoustic guitar and her, with a dead quiet background. From there, I would go to another Cassidy song, its the 3rd song, great guitar and vocals, bass line is clear and deep. Followed by track #6 from that same album, the Piano is great, and the rest of the band is awesome, plus her voice is amazing. After that I would put on John Mayers Neon on the live cd. Then Star Track March of the Imperials. Then I would put on John Coltrane 2nd song, the piano is amazingly clear, and the horns are so brassy, its sweet sounding. Then Id rock the person out with my other stuff.
Video: Panasonic 55" P55ST50, Oppo BDP-103
Amplification: Integra DTR-40.2, Naim Nait 5i-2 Integrated, Jolida FX Tube DAC
Speakers: Dynaudio Focus 160s, Excite X22 Center, DM 2/6
Subwoofer:
eD A2-300, Auralex Subriser

Turntable: Pro-Ject Debut III, Sumiko Pearl Cart, Bellari VP130 Tube phono
Bedroom: Samsung LNT-4061 40" LCD, Sony BDP-360, XBox 360
Girls room: Vizio 32" VX32L, Sony Upconverting DVD player
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Yeah I know what you mean, the rDAC wasnt a huge difference right away, but the more I use it, the more I love the setups sound with it over what Ive heard out of it in the past.

Im not sure how much better the highs and upper mids will be, as the Excites pour out the details lately thru those regions, Im surprised by how much detail they have shown. Heck tonight my wife was finishing This Means War, and there was a license plate flying thru the air, and you could just slightly hear the whirling of the plate. However the Focus is using a variation of the Esotar 2 tweeter you got to hear from the C1s. The other thing is the bass levels from the X16s to the 160s, that would be a big upgrade. Compare the bass from your Studio 20s to the C1s, OK, the X16s might be a touch bassier over the 20s, maybe, and the 160s is very near the C1s bass, so you can see that there the biggest improvement would be made. But sometimes the bass on the X16s is plenty. The 160s have a little more top-end sparkle to them too.

My top track for a demo would be Eva Cassidy Fields of Gold, its such a great rendition of that song, just an electric acoustic guitar and her, with a dead quiet background. From there, I would go to another Cassidy song, its the 3rd song, great guitar and vocals, bass line is clear and deep. Followed by track #6 from that same album, the Piano is great, and the rest of the band is awesome, plus her voice is amazing. After that I would put on John Mayers Neon on the live cd. Then Star Track March of the Imperials. Then I would put on John Coltrane 2nd song, the piano is amazingly clear, and the horns are so brassy, its sweet sounding. Then Id rock the person out with my other stuff.
The 160 is defenately a great Speaker and I would not hesitate to do upgrade, Highs are indeeds really sweet, and Bass very well defined and controlled, The Dynaudio tweeter is ceretainly a world class leader in dome tweeters, Dynaudio has also used dome Mids in the past just shows how well they control the dome design.

A really enjoyed my 160 and 260 audition
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The 160 is defenately a great Speaker and I would not hesitate to do upgrade, Highs are indeeds really sweet, and Bass very well defined and controlled, The Dynaudio tweeter is ceretainly a world class leader in dome tweeters, Dynaudio has also used dome Mids in the past just shows how well they control the dome design.

A really enjoyed my 160 and 260 audition
Did you get to audition them again?
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Did you get to audition them again?
Nope but i would like to.
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http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/detai...watts__8_ohms/
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you gonna buy it?
Tempting but not yet, it is an awsome deal
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I want more dynamics in back more then anything, I just cant find a pair of DM2/6s for that cheap very often at the time I have the money to make it a great buy. Im not too worried about matching surrounds, but it would be nice. Maybe I just need to get the 160s, keep the Missions until I get DMs. Im just gonna stick with this sub until it dies I think, its good for what Im using it for.

However, when Im home, Im more interested in 2-ch then Movies lately. But being home is seldom, tomorrow church study, tuesday disneyland in the evening, friday a bar with my buddy for his bday(maybe) and sunday Disney for fathers day.

I will say that having the dac has made me more interested in music then before; so its doing something. Im not sure what to do with the TT, I use it, but not a lot, I could sell it for a little spare cash, and get a dedicated CDP or the Oppo 93. But then I still enjoy LPs here and there, espcially the ones that I bought just for the TT. Id hate to trade in the LPs and have to rebuy the cds.

I think my priority would be the 160s and a new display as 1, 2. BUT, taking my wife to Hawaii is more important to me atm, its time to do something nice for her, just me and her.
Not sure I f you're willing to compromise the DM surrounds for this? Just a thought since they are cheap and do sound great. The DM probobly and most certainly outperforms it but all in all a nice speaker reasonably priced.

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/totem-mite-mahagony
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Not sure I f you're willing to compromise the DM surrounds for this? Just a thought since they are cheap and do sound great. The DM probobly and most certainly outperforms it but all in all a nice speaker reasonably priced.

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/totem-mite-mahagony
definetly something to think about. Not sure when Ill get to buying new surrounds honestly tho. my focus is to pay off andrew and then start seeing if i can make hawaii with the wife a reality.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:21 AM   #938
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definetly something to think about. Not sure when Ill get to buying new surrounds honestly tho. my focus is to pay off andrew and then start seeing if i can make hawaii with the wife a reality.
That totally cool and i think you should stick to your plans and make that trip you were planing to do before you get any new gear.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:51 AM   #939
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Got all the Outlaw monos hooked up yet?
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