Are Samsungs really that bad?

[AmrlKJaneway]

Okay, another question. I'm looking at some glasses here on Amazon;

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-30.../dp/B005P91CQM

The price is right. The reviews are great. But compatibility? They say they work on all 2011 models, one user is using them on a 51d550. I have a 59d550 (delivered tomorrow, all paid for, YAY!), but I'm not American, nor is my TV.

Can I buy peripherals from overseas to work on my Aussie set?

[AmrlKJaneway]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

You don't have to do it, I'm not saying that it offers any benefits to the tv or not, it's up to you to decide that. Really it just come's down to personal preference. Plenty of people just plug in their new plasmas and use them the way they want right from the start.

It's really no hassle. My first sentance was a joke.

I am gonna do it, because I figure; why not? It's no skin off my teeth to use the telle in that way. In fact, I probably would have anyway had you not recomended it, just by chance.

I love watching movies presented in full screen. It's a shame a lot of my favs (like Star Wars) are wide.

[EricBC]

you should be fine with the glasses
the newer TVs are supposed to be fine with just about everything, I still want someone who has direct experience to weigh in on my cross brand thread, but no one seems to know or care to answer.


thanks for the Calibration disk, I have ask around on several threads and you are the first to answer, props for a through answer

I broke mine in with lots of movies over the computer, and I did burn reduction in passes for 10 minutes a day also anytime I pause something I do burn in protection. I am going to do a slide show break in also, I don't know if I got all the color spectrum. I am a believer after my friend did a before after with me and a few others, we watched some things and recorded it with his camera in HD before and after, we noticed a difference without referencing the video.

and anyone that is knocking samsungs most likely owns an LG (:-P) and is mad. I kid...

[Captainhawk1]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

You are being feed misinformation. Even though CaptainHawk1 is happy with vivid mode and his slight calibration changes (I personally wouldn't even call what he described as calibration to be honest, more like minor tweaks), that nowhere near means they are close to being the greatest or right calibration settings to get the best performance out of the tv, or that the tv barely needs to be calibrated. With the use of any quality calibration disc, you'll discover that major changes need to be done to a tv which is set on vivid mode, if you follow the discs instructions correctly that is. I know that many people prefer vivid mode, but it is actually the worst mode to use. Vivid mode produces over saturated colours and an overall fake look, which isn't true to the source or how directors intend their movies to be viewed. Using vivid mode also reduces the life of the tv by quite a bit. For the best results and performance, the display should be calibrated in cinema/movie mode.

Wow, thanks for all of that insight considering that you don't have the same set that I do nor do you have the same viewing conditions that I have.

I've used my calibration discs and filters as instructed from beginning to end, to the letter and I've experimented from beginning to end on the standard, natural, movie and dynamic settings, which I errantly referred to as "vivid." It just so happened that on this set (which, if you missed my other posts is an LCD and not a plasma), the Dynamic setting was very close to what the settings should be based on the instructions on the discs. And for the record, I have both the S & M Disc and the DVE disc and the results were the same on both and I made my adjustments based on the discs not what I perceived as looking appealing.

I didn't suggest that his experience would be the same I simply relayed my personal experience and I certainly didn't suggest that it was axiomatic for even my particular set, nevertheless Samsungs in general. Simply put, your mileage may vary.

Sorry, but there is no hard and fast rule as far as built-in settings are concerned and anyone who claims that there is, is completely full of shit. I made a point to note that my experiences on my other two HD TV's were not the same. I wouldn't have expected them to be as close to what they discs say they should have been using a built-in setting and some minor adjustments, but that's how it worked out. The fact is that the built-in settings vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, display type to display type, model to model and year to year.

Not for nothing, maybe you should read the posts a little closer before you start making such dopey claims suggesting that someone is spreading misinformation. I don't know enough about plasmas to even comment on them. My involvement with Janeway was the result of his queries regarding AMP, which is a feature exclusive to LED LCDs.

[Captainhawk1]

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

And, what can I say? Star Trek rules. That's me in the picture, and that's my communicator badge tattoo you see on my chest. So I'm never without it...

Now, that's hardcore dedication having the commbadge tattoo. You ever go to any conventions? I've lived in Vegas for nine years and it's one of the great advantages of living here.

[AmrlKJaneway]

Originally Posted by Captainhawk1

Now, that's hardcore dedication having the commbadge tattoo. You ever go to any conventions? I've lived in Vegas for nine years and it's one of the great advantages of living here.

They come to Australia once every ten years and are 1,000km from home. So no...

Check my gallery. I got every episode on DVD and did this thing where I stacked them on top of one another. I think it looks cool...

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Captainhawk1

Wow, thanks for all of that insight considering that you don't have the same set that I do nor do you have the same viewing conditions that I have.

I've used my calibration discs and filters as instructed from beginning to end, to the letter and I've experimented from beginning to end on the standard, natural, movie and dynamic settings, which I errantly referred to as "vivid." It just so happened that on this set (which, if you missed my other posts is an LCD and not a plasma), the Dynamic setting was very close to what the settings should be based on the instructions on the discs. And for the record, I have both the S & M Disc and the DVE disc and the results were the same on both and I made my adjustments based on the discs not what I perceived as looking appealing.

I didn't suggest that his experience would be the same I simply relayed my personal experience and I certainly didn't suggest that it was axiomatic for even my particular set, nevertheless Samsungs in general. Simply put, your mileage may vary.

Sorry, but there is no hard and fast rule as far as built-in settings are concerned and anyone who claims that there is, is completely full of shit. I made a point to note that my experiences on my other two HD TV's were not the same. I wouldn't have expected them to be as close to what they discs say they should have been using a built-in setting and some minor adjustments, but that's how it worked out. The fact is that the built-in settings vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, display type to display type, model to model and year to year.

Not for nothing, maybe you should read the posts a little closer before you start making such dopey claims suggesting that someone is spreading misinformation. I don't know enough about plasmas to even comment on them. My involvement with Janeway was the result of his queries regarding AMP, which is a feature exclusive to LED LCDs.

Ok, I didn't realise that a post of mine, where I was just trying to help somebody by stating the facts, would get this kind of reaction, and would hurt your pride so much. I don't know what you are rolling on the floor laughing about, since you've made yourself sound like you've got no knowledge on the subject? You can beat all the dead horses you like, but regardless of your personal preference, there is not 1 professional ISF calibrator that would ever suggest using vivid mode. What, is the sun actually situated in your living room or something, where you have to use vivid mode and wear sunglasses to watch tv, just to counter act the glare from it? Obviously each set is different, but I'm telling you now, if you used those calibration discs correctly, the best results with any tv (lcd, plasma etc) under normal conditions in a home, wouldn't place vivid/dynamic as being the best performing mode which is most accurate to the source. Here's exactly what you said in your post to Janeway

Originally Posted by Captainhawk1

Y'know, it just dawned on me that your handle is an obvious Trek reference. Mine is too, albeit not so obvious.

AS for calibration specs, I am embarrassed to say this but with my set, it required very little calibration. I have a calibration Blu-ray and the sets "vivid" setting was actually really nice but i wanted to calibrate it to get it perfect and I hardly changed anything. A couple of notches on the contrast and brightness and that was it.

That was very odd to me because my Mitsubushi 65" DLP and my 32" Vizio required a crapload of calibrating using the disc and color filter.

Putting a tv in vivid mode, and just changing the contrast and brightness settings by "a couple of notches" as you put it, does not even come close to the tv been well calibrated, regardless of whether those are the settings you personally prefer. Not only do manufacturers preset the brightness and contrast levels in vivid mode to almost the highest they will go, they also set other settings in a similar way, such as the sharpness and the backlight/cell light etc. So just changing the settings by "a couple of notches" in vivid mode, won't do much in the way of calibration to better the tv's performance. Also, having used calibration discs on both lcd and plasma panels, I don't believe your claims for a second that vivid/dynamic would have shown the best results. With that being said, you did give Janeway misinformation, because lets be honest, he most likely doesn't care what settings you personally think are the best, he was after information on how to achieve a superior performance from the tv he buys, so I don't know how you were trying to help him, because what you suggested is far from it!

Btw, what brand and model tv do you own, I'm interested to know now?

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by EricBC

you should be fine with the glasses
the newer TVs are supposed to be fine with just about everything, I still want someone who has direct experience to weigh in on my cross brand thread, but no one seems to know or care to answer.


thanks for the Calibration disk, I have ask around on several threads and you are the first to answer, props for a through answer

I broke mine in with lots of movies over the computer, and I did burn reduction in passes for 10 minutes a day also anytime I pause something I do burn in protection. I am going to do a slide show break in also, I don't know if I got all the color spectrum. I am a believer after my friend did a before after with me and a few others, we watched some things and recorded it with his camera in HD before and after, we noticed a difference without referencing the video.

and anyone that is knocking samsungs most likely owns an LG (:-P) and is mad. I kid...

No worries, glad I could help .

[EricBC]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

No worries, glad I could help .

I love that you are helpful and then pan to your profile pic...
lol gets me every time

[AmrlKJaneway]

Yeah, I always think he's gonna yell at me or something before I read the post...

Won't have the calibration disk until it ships here. I'm loving the TV, but my wife is having some problems. Maybe the disk will fix them, but maybe there's something we can do in the meantime:

She doesn't think it's as sharp as an old 2007 Panny that we have. Y'know that glitter effect on the PlayStation main menu? Well, it doesn't glitter the way it is on the Panny. The sharpness and depth aren't as good. Any suggestions, anyone?

Also, in 3D mode she sees a judder. I don't, but my eyes aren't really on par with hers. I think I know the answer. The HDMI cord I'm using is the one I got when I bought the PlayStation in 2008. Maybe a 1.4 High-speed cable will provide smoother image?

Thanks everyone for all your advice. I'm loving the TV. The size is blowing me away. It's a small room.

[AmrlKJaneway]

My son um... scratched it already...

Anyone know what I can do?

[EMAGDNIM]

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

My son um... scratched it already...

Anyone know what I can do?

Is it deep? You can try and buff and polish, but I don't know if it will work out for you...

[AmrlKJaneway]

Nah, barely noticeable.

I can't see it at all when the screen is on, so it's not a distraction. I'm kinda asking to "future proof" myself if he decides he wants a larger one there.

Thanks for the advice.

[brian9229]

I purchased a samsung smart 3dtv about 7 months ago and i really dont have a single complaint. The picture is way better than the sonys and lgs i compared it to in the store. in fact, the picture looked better when i got it home. The 3d is absolutely perfect, no issues at all. It also came with smart apps so i stream netflx and vudu as well as news, weather, etc. I have heard many stories though about different failures with samsungs and i guess like anything else you're taking a gamble no matter what brand you get but im extremely happy, so far.

[rb4276]

Originally Posted by brian9229

I purchased a samsung smart 3dtv about 7 months ago and i really dont have a single complaint. The picture is way better than the sonys and lgs i compared it to in the store. in fact, the picture looked better when i got it home. The 3d is absolutely perfect, no issues at all. It also came with smart apps so i stream netflx and vudu as well as news, weather, etc. I have heard many stories though about different failures with samsungs and i guess like anything else you're taking a gamble no matter what brand you get but im extremely happy, so far.

Yup I agree, I purchased my smart led Samsung last August everything from the picture, streaming and 3d is phenomenal. I get nothing but wows from friends and family on how crisp the picture is and the best they ever seen. My only complaint and doesn't matter to me is trying to use the Internet on it is a pain in the ass, not like I would use it anyway.

[shogun123]

The thing is with seeking advice on an internet forum is that you can't really trust anyone's opinion about a brand etc, you will get a ton of people saying its brilliant and they have had no problems and you will get a ton of people saying the oppposite, you can't know for sure if those people are working for the company or are working for a rival. It is like those "I caught a sneak preview of this and it is a masterpiece" reviews on IMDB, you know they are just PR, anyone that does not believe there are PR people on these types of forums ready to chime in at a moment's notice has got to be pretty gullible.

Use your own judgement, 12 years ago I bought a 25 inch widescreen tube tv (I won't mention the brand) excellent PQ but within a year it went on the blink, had it repaired and within a month the same thing happened again, now I won't ever buy a tv from that company again.

I am planning to buy a plasma soon but have waited a long time before making ip my mind, I keep hearing horror stories concerning led and plasma, the old crt tellys never had these issues and considering the price of these things it is quite a risk, it appears that the more advanced the technology the less reliable it is.

[rb4276]

Originally Posted by shogun123

The thing is with seeking advice on an internet forum is that you can't really trust anyone's opinion about a brand etc, you will get a ton of people saying its brilliant and they have had no problems and you will get a ton of people saying the oppposite, you can't know for sure if those people are working for the company or are working for a rival. It is like those "I caught a sneak preview of this and it is a masterpiece" reviews on IMDB, you know they are just PR, anyone that does not believe there are PR people on these types of forums ready to chime in at a moment's notice has got to be pretty gullible.

Use your own judgement, 12 years ago I bought a 25 inch widescreen tube tv (I won't mention the brand) excellent PQ but within a year it went on the blink, had it repaired and within a month the same thing happened again, now I won't ever buy a tv from that company agai
I am planning to buy a plasma soon but have waited a long time before making ip my mind, I keep hearing horror stories concerning led and plasma, the old crt tellys never had these issues and considering the price of these things it is quite a risk, it appears that the more advanced the technology the less reliable it is.

Yes I work for Samsung and do PR for the movie companies on the 3d movies I post about

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by rb4276

Yup I agree, I purchased my smart led Samsung last August everything from the picture, streaming and 3d is phenomenal. I get nothing but wows from friends and family on how crisp the picture is and the best they ever seen. My only complaint and doesn't matter to me is trying to use the Internet on it is a pain in the ass, not like I would use it anyway.

o yea, absolutely the internet is a pain at times to the point of me swearing up a storm at the tv. Just picking shows or movies from different sites, vudu, netflix, etc. can be time consuming but for me the streaming picture quality is worth it.,

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by shogun123

The thing is with seeking advice on an internet forum is that you can't really trust anyone's opinion about a brand etc, you will get a ton of people saying its brilliant and they have had no problems and you will get a ton of people saying the oppposite, you can't know for sure if those people are working for the company or are working for a rival. It is like those "I caught a sneak preview of this and it is a masterpiece" reviews on IMDB, you know they are just PR, anyone that does not believe there are PR people on these types of forums ready to chime in at a moment's notice has got to be pretty gullible.

Use your own judgement, 12 years ago I bought a 25 inch widescreen tube tv (I won't mention the brand) excellent PQ but within a year it went on the blink, had it repaired and within a month the same thing happened again, now I won't ever buy a tv from that company again.

I am planning to buy a plasma soon but have waited a long time before making ip my mind, I keep hearing horror stories concerning led and plasma, the old crt tellys never had these issues and considering the price of these things it is quite a risk, it appears that the more advanced the technology the less reliable it is.

ok, so who do you work for huh?

[Wolvie2k12]

just changed a 32" sony LCD for a 40"EH6030... the 3D looks amazing! on the "first plane"... but i have a trouble with the subtitles... the subtitles have this "ghost" image right behind them... and the further objects seems double... what can i do?