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Old 06-14-2012, 11:29 PM   #1
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Default speaker settings for music listening?

Trying to get an idea of how to set up my system for music listening the best. How do you guys set your speakers up for music? Front=Large with Sub, Front=Small with sub, or Front Large with no sub. Thanks in advance
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:00 AM   #2
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It's going to vary depending on setup. Personally I like mine the best with all speakers set to small, 80 Hz crossover and all 3 subs active. My subs handle low frequencies better than my LCR or my surrounds and allows them to better handle the mid-bass.
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:04 AM   #3
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Is this a dedicated two channel set up, or part of a HT
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Old 06-15-2012, 03:13 AM   #4
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Trying to get an idea of how to set up my system for music listening the best. How do you guys set your speakers up for music? Front=Large with Sub, Front=Small with sub, or Front Large with no sub. Thanks in advance
What I have done is I have a Naim Nait 5i Integrated Amp connect via its HT by-pass to my Integra AVR. I use my blu-ray players optical out to my Arcam rDAC and then into my Naim for all my 2-ch music, the speakers are naturally set to LARGE without the sub playing. All other speakers are run off of my Integra, when Im in the pass-thru mode on the Naim and watching a movie or TV, my speakers are all crossed over at different frequencies, the fronts 40hz, the center 55hz, the surrounds are all at 80 hz.

When I was just using the Integra I was set to large on the L/R and crossed over the same as above. So movies would use the sub, music would not.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:46 PM   #5
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Is this a dedicated two channel set up, or part of a HT
I am using the Yamaha rx-663 reciever with a sony blu-ray player.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #6
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I am using the Yamaha rx-663 reciever with a sony blu-ray player.
what speakers do you have
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:06 PM   #7
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what speakers do you have
I am using Paradigm Monitor 7 speakers & a Paradigm sub.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:59 PM   #8
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I am using Paradigm Monitor 7 speakers & a Paradigm sub.
Personally, I would run the speakers large for music since you have decent speakers with extension enough to play the lowest notes of a bass guitar.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:15 PM   #9
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Personally, I would run the speakers large for music since you have decent speakers with extension enough to play the lowest notes of a bass guitar.
Would you still run the sub or do you think that the fronts are enough?
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:18 PM   #10
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Would you still run the sub or do you think that the fronts are enough?
personally I think the fronts should be enough for most types of music, however Im not sure what you are listening to, so if you listen to a lot of hip-hop and want that club slamming bass beat, you might want the sub on. however if you listen mostly to rock, jazz, or country, you won't really need the sub, IMO.

FYI, I am more of a 2-ch traditionalist, so I dont like using the sub for music.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:43 PM   #11
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personally I think the fronts should be enough for most types of music, however Im not sure what you are listening to, so if you listen to a lot of hip-hop and want that club slamming bass beat, you might want the sub on. however if you listen mostly to rock, jazz, or country, you won't really need the sub, IMO.

FYI, I am more of a 2-ch traditionalist, so I dont like using the sub for music.
Thanks for the input. BTW.. there won't be much hip-hop playing in this house. lol!
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:09 AM   #12
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I have to disagree with Callas. Bass management is a good idea for both home theater and two channel music. The main issue is not the extension of the front speakers, but rather the most important issue is where the low frequency waves in the room are generated. You have some flexibility in moving the subwoofer(s) around so that you get optimum bass in the room. However, it is not always possible to move the front speakers around. You can't possibly place the front speakers in the corners of the room behind you.

In most cases, two or four subwoofers are much better than one subwoofer.

Check the following threads and read what Dr. Floyd Toole and his colleagues have to say about bass management.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=157297
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=48286
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It's going to vary depending on setup. Personally I like mine the best with all speakers set to small, 80 Hz crossover and all 3 subs active. My subs handle low frequencies better than my LCR or my surrounds and allows them to better handle the mid-bass.
My set up is like yours as well, sounds great for music and movies.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:35 PM   #14
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I have all speakers on Large and the xover is set at 55Hz ..... Since I have full range front rear and center speakers.....
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I have all speakers on Large and the xover is set at 55Hz ..... Since I have full range front rear and center speakers.....
if all your speakers are large...a crossover won't do anything...
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