Good news for haters; Samsung no longer believes in 3D TV

[mseeley]

Originally Posted by GunZenBomZ

In an interview with Belgian magazine Knack, Tristan van Overbroek, consumer electronics manager at Samsung, revealed that the company no longer believes in 3D TV.

Samsung will continue to offer 3D as a feature on its high-end television screens, but all marketing efforts to promote 3D will be ceased because the company realises that consumers aren't interested in 3D TV.

A recent Dutch study revealed that only 6 percent of consumers is willing to pay for a 3D TV, and that only 20 percent is potentially interested in the technology.

http://datanews.knack.be/ict/nieuws/...043767990.htm#

*Gimmick & niche product*

NOOOOOOOOOO!!! Hopefully this turns around

3DTVs are actually wayyyy cheaper now then they used to be. Just look at the Vizio passive sets

[MikeCL]

I was looking at a passive Vizio last night but it was only 32" my non 3D screen now is 40" so that's a huge downsize for me..

If I did get 3d I would get an LG.

[Wootball]

Wait, is this true - I can't play a 3D Blu-ray in a 2D player? I thought the standard was to have all discs play in 2D player, in 2D??

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Wootball

Wait, is this true - I can't play a 3D Blu-ray in a 2D player? I thought the standard was to have all discs play in 2D player, in 2D??

It depends on the way the discs are programmed. For instance, I believe that in the case of Disney, the 3D discs will not work in a 2D player (but they come in combo packs with the 2D disc anyway, so it's kind of a moot point). But I believe that other companies like Dreamworks do have their 3D discs set to work in 2D players, even though they also often come in combo packs with the 2D disc as well.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Wootball

Wait, is this true - I can't play a 3D Blu-ray in a 2D player? I thought the standard was to have all discs play in 2D player, in 2D??

the standard is so 3D can play in any player, but the same way that a region B title won't play in a region A player, some studios check if it is set-up for 3D and if not it won't play, this is mostly done by companies that give a separate 2D disk or else everyone would just give away/sell the 2D copy.

[Wootball]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

the standard is so 3D can play in any player, but the same way that a region B title won't play in a region A player, some studios check if it is set-up for 3D and if not it won't play, this is mostly done by companies that give a separate 2D disk or else everyone would just give away/sell the 2D copy.

That's a joke, there are several movies that I only own the 3D disc of because the standard said that I wouldn't need the 2D version.

[Cry_Wolf_743]

I never understood the fad surrounding 3-D. Half the time you can barely tell it anyway and I personally find the whole process as headache inducing.

[sookymonster]

Originally Posted by Cry_Wolf_743

I never understood the fad surrounding 3-D. Half the time you can barely tell it anyway and I personally find the whole process as headache inducing.

Something that has been around 100 + years hardly qualifies as a fad! No dis-respect intended. I am sure I heard a statistic recently that 4 out of the top 5 grossing movies of all time are 3-D movies, not that this means all their income was generated on 3D screens and the fact that 3D means higher ticket prices...

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by sookymonster

Something that has been around 100 + years hardly qualifies as a fad! No dis-respect intended. I am sure I heard a statistic recently that 4 out of the top 5 grossing movies of all time are 3-D movies, not that this means all their income was generated on 3D screens and the fact that 3D means higher ticket prices...

It's been a fad that has come and gone for 100+ years. As for the "stat": As they say, there are liars, damn liars and statisticians. As Blu Dog has stated earlier, the industry (that has a lot invested in 3D) is using any and all tactics in an attempt to build-up the popularity of 3D significantly more than what it truly is. It's no different than claiming 3D is mainstream simply because of all of the 3D TVs being sold, when 3D is simply one of many options available on the TV.

I couldn't care less about 3D, and I say that as someone who owns a decent quality setup capable of viewing it. I find it unappealing (as does the rest of my family), and simply choose not to watch it. As long as it doesn't affect my ability to buy and watch 2D content, I'm indifferent. However, it's extremely amusing at times reading the ravings of some of the 3D fanatics (not implying you are one of them). When one needs to support [anything] the way some attempt to justify how today's 3D is truly here to stay, it simply reeks of desperation. To me, it's a niche format that will not expand beyond that any time in the near future.

[Big3dfan]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

It's been a fad that has come and gone for 100+ years. As for the "stat": As they say, there are liars, damn liars and statisticians. As Blu Dog has stated earlier, the industry (that has a lot invested in 3D) is using any and all tactics in an attempt to build-up the popularity of 3D significantly more than what it truly is. It's no different than claiming 3D is mainstream simply because of all of the 3D TVs being sold, when 3D is simply one of many options available on the TV.

I couldn't care less about 3D, and I say that as someone who owns a decent quality setup capable of viewing it. I find it unappealing (as does the rest of my family), and simply choose not to watch it. As long as it doesn't affect my ability to buy and watch 2D content, I'm indifferent. However, it's extremely amusing at times reading the ravings of some of the 3D fanatics (not implying you are one of them). When one needs to support [anything] the way some attempt to justify how today's 3D is truly here to stay, it simply reeks of desperation. To me, it's a niche format that will not expand beyond that any time in the near future.

Dear Fellow 3D fans,

This guy figured out our secret - increase the hype and mass hypnotize millions into thinking 3D is the way to go - so that they will help us reduce the prices.

now that our secret is out, what should we do next ?

worried
3d fan

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by Big3dfan

Dear Fellow 3D fans,

This guy figured out our secret - increase the hype and mass hypnotize millions into thinking 3D is the way to go - so that they will help us reduce the prices.

now that our secret is out, what should we do next ?

worried
3d fan

Sarcastic denial does not make it any less true. I retract my "not implying you are one of them" clarification made earlier.

[Big3dfan]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Sarcastic denial does not make it any less true. I retract my "not implying you are one of them" clarification made earlier.

Can someone please explain what we are in denial of ? Because it seems a growing crowd is having fun with 3D and we frankly dont know what we are missing ?

If you are complaining about theater prices being higer for 3D, then dont go.....get yourself a projector for under $1500 and enjoy a 120" of 3D 1080p awesomeness at home.

If you are complaining about 3D bluray availability and pricing, economies of scale are kicking in with flood of 3D movies and bringing down the prices radically....what used to cost upwards of of $30-$50 just a year ago can be bought for less than $15 now with good deals now a days.

If you are complaining about how you dislike 3D and rest of us who enjoy are idiots, so be it...enjoy your 2D......

Back when floppy disks were invented, some CEO "predicted" that no one will ever need more than 512kb of memeory.....may be your prediction of 3D demise will also come true the same way....in the meanwhile us 3D fans shall march on and no one can stop us from having fun.

[donald.brown]

With all due respect to my fellow 3D devotees and the 3D haters, is there any way to close this thread? I am so over this wheel-spinning "debate", particularly since it originated from some seemingly inane source material. Samsung is still producing 3dtvs, now incorporating smart tv tech.

[FREYMAX 3D]

Originally Posted by Cry_Wolf_743

I never understood the fad surrounding 3-D. Half the time you can barely tell it anyway and I personally find the whole process as headache inducing.

I agree, you are 100% correct - Half the time YOU can barely tell it anyway...

Amazingly, I happen to see in 3D all the time, except when I'm watching a 2D movie . What an odd experience 2D is - so very different from reality... But hopefully this 2D thing is just a gimmicky fad that will soon recede into the dark recesses of cinematic history...

[Big3dfan]

Originally Posted by FreyTheater3D

I agree, you are 100% correct - Half the time YOU can barely tell it anyway...

Amazingly, I happen to see in 3D all the time, except when I'm watching a 2D movie . What an odd experience 2D is - so very different from reality... But hopefully this 2D thing is just a gimmicky fad that will soon recede into the dark recesses of cinematic history...

Tell me about it !

I cannot bear to watch a 2D movie now...its like a colorless B&W movie or dimensionless sterio sound (as oppose to 5.1 or 7.1 surround).....

[GamerBoy14]

Originally Posted by donald.brown

with all due respect to my fellow 3d devotees and the 3d haters, is there any way to close this thread? I am so over this wheel-spinning "debate", particularly since it originated from some seemingly inane source material. Samsung is still producing 3dtvs, now incorporating smart tv tech.

+1

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by Big3dfan

Can someone please explain what we are in denial of ? Because it seems a growing crowd is having fun with 3D and we frankly dont know what we are missing ?

Please re-read what I've posted. I'm simply stating that those with skin in the 3D (home) game are manipulating data to make it appear there is more public demand for 3D than what there truly is. Some examples include:

• Citing 3D HDTV sales when most of those sets are purchased for non-3D viewing
• Citing 3D BD sales numbers without citing sales numbers for comparable 2D releases.

In reality, home 3D is not being accepted by the general public. That's not to imply anything negative against those that do want it and make the investment, but it's certainly not the "must-have" tech (for the masses) that it's being marketed as. Will it ever get to that point? Who knows. The portion of the general public that has adopted blu-ray is still extremely small (but growing), and 3D is an extremely small subset of those adopters.

The numbers don't lie, but if you simply want to dismiss my comments as "complaining", knock yourself out. This is not a war or a contest, but every time reality is introduced into the discussion, 3D fans love to make it into one, refuse to discuss the facts and simply resort to ad hominem and straw man arguments.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Please re-read what I've posted. I'm simply stating that those with skin in the 3D (home) game are manipulating data to make it appear there is more public demand for 3D than what there truly is. Some examples include:[*]Citing 3D HDTV sales when most of those sets are purchased for non-3D viewing[*]Citing 3D BD sales numbers without citing sales numbers for comparable 2D releases.

The same could be said for VCRPlus+, back in the day--
Electronics companies thought the public would stampede in droves for the chance to make their VCR programming easier, the public shrugged, and nobody bought those little LED-remote consoles.
Then, when it was made a standard interior feature on most VCR sets, and most people just naturally got one with their next VCR whether they'd heard of it or not, the technology became so common, it was THE TV-scheduling technology (until DVR's and onscreen cable-guides made tape-VCR's obsolete), and VCRPlus+ numbers were commonly published in every issue of TV Guide.

You can complain that "People buying sets are 'invisibly' buying 3D whether they want it or not", but when we're talking about customers who can't afford the chance to get hooked, never underestimate the power of "First one's free, kid. "
I certainly wouldn't have bought my set if Sony hadn't given me that PS3 player upgrade for free.

(That said...+1 to "Please kill this thread."
Most of the new posters don't even READ the News From Belgium first post anymore, and are just turning the thread into whatever they wish it was from the misleading header. Which they seem to be good at.)

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Big3dfan

Dear Fellow 3D fans,

This guy figured out our secret - increase the hype and mass hypnotize millions into thinking 3D is the way to go - so that they will help us reduce the prices.

now that our secret is out, what should we do next ?

worried
3d fan

I'd start by trying to get the hypnotism thing to actually work. Watching the fan base walking around staring at watches on chains, and intoning "you will now believe everything I say", kind of loses its luster when you see them walking through plate glass windows and wandering through freeway traffic. Just completely oblivious to the real world.

Everyone has learned not to bother these people, as they can break into violent spasms of diarrhea if disturbed. Fortunately, there aren't very many of them.

[chris_sc77]

Sweet. 3D is completely unnecessary. None of my household enjoys any form of 3D