Official Euro 2012 Thread - Page 10 - Blu-ray Forum

ManUtd · 06-19-2012, 01:46 AM

BTW, while this might be "legal" it sure doesn't look right. When Iniesta got the ball from Fabregas he was onside. Navas however was in an offside position but since he wasn't part of the play there was no call at that moment. However when Iniesta moved forward he immediately passed the ball to Navas who suddenly became an "eligible receiver" who was just deemed to be in a passive offside position.

If it were up to me, Navas was offside when he got the ball from Iniesta.

Johnny Vinyl · 06-19-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ManUtd

BTW, while this might be "legal" it sure doesn't look right. When Iniesta got the ball from Fabregas he was onside. Navas however was in an offside position but since he wasn't part of the play there was no call at that moment. However when Iniesta moved forward he immediately passed the ball to Navas who suddenly became an "eligible receiver" who was just deemed to be in a passive offside position.

If it were up to me, Navas was offside when he got the ball from Iniesta.

I've always had an issue with this rule. I know it's to not slow down the play or negate an opportunity to the intended receiver, but IMO...offside is offside no matter who receives the ball.

,deeii · 06-19-2012, 12:00 PM

Change your avatar John. What a disgrace at the moment.

beadelf · 06-19-2012, 12:08 PM

the day is dragging i feel like i need to be in the pub preparing myself for the england game!!!

ManUtd · 06-19-2012, 07:41 PM

Nothing much has happened in the first half of both matches.

newginafets · 06-19-2012, 07:45 PM

Oh England u need to step up the game

Almadacr · 06-19-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ManUtd

BTW, while this might be "legal" it sure doesn't look right. When Iniesta got the ball from Fabregas he was onside. Navas however was in an offside position but since he wasn't part of the play there was no call at that moment. However when Iniesta moved forward he immediately passed the ball to Navas who suddenly became an "eligible receiver" who was just deemed to be in a passive offside position.

If it were up to me, Navas was offside when he got the ball from Iniesta.

It's called positional offside , and when Iniesta passes the ball Navas comes from behind ( he slowed down is pace just a little bit ) i saw the replay several times and it's a goal .

ManUtd · 06-19-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Almadacr

It's called positional offside , and when Iniesta passes the ball Navas comes from behind ( he slowed down is pace just a little bit ) i saw the replay several times and it's a goal .

It's called goalhanging. Basically a player is positioned behind the last defender and waiting for a teammate to run past him and passes the ball backwards for an easy strike.

ManUtd · 06-19-2012, 08:20 PM

Ukraine had two great chances on goal in the second half, header on the corner kick and the one that crossed the line, shouldn't have been allowed in the first place...both were offsides! Another display of poor officiating this time by the linesman.

silversnake · 06-19-2012, 08:41 PM

FOR SHAME FRANCE!

What kind of game was that. Pathetic.

ManUtd · 06-19-2012, 08:41 PM

So, England faces Italy and France meets Spain in the QF.

silversnake · 06-19-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ManUtd

So, England faces Italy and France meets Spain in the QF.

We lost mexes due to two yellow cards so our defense was already not super strong but now it's going to get eaten alive.

Having said that, France was the last team to knockout Spain in a major tournament back in 2006. Both teams have changed quite a bit though.

Almadacr · 06-20-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ManUtd

It's called goalhanging. Basically a player is positioned behind the last defender and waiting for a teammate to run past him and passes the ball backwards for an easy strike.

The Goal Hanging we use to say that when we were playing in the streets where there aren't offsides

beadelf · 06-20-2012, 09:03 AM

not the greatest performance by england, but a win all the same, we topped the group and avoided spain for now!!

lets see how sunday plays out!!! i have some hope though!

gvortex7 · 06-20-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vinyl

I've always had an issue with this rule. I know it's to not slow down the play or negate an opportunity to the intended receiver, but IMO...offside is offside no matter who receives the ball.

Totally agree with this.

RaijinUT · 06-20-2012, 07:00 PM

So what is everyone thoughts for the next round?

Does anyone see anyone but Germany, Portugal, Spain, and Italy advancing?

silversnake · 06-20-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RaijinUT

So what is everyone thoughts for the next round?

Does anyone see anyone but Germany, Portugal, Spain, and Italy advancing?

I'd like to think France could beat Spain.

England has a chance as well.

Adam.C · 06-20-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silversnake

I'd like to think France could beat Spain.

England has a chance as well.

I can see England winning against Italy. I highly doubt France will beat Spain, especially with Frances back four being a little questionable right now.

I do think Germany and Portugal will win their matches, but you never know.

RaijinUT · 06-20-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by silversnake

I'd like to think France could beat Spain.

I think Spain is safe for this round... but I do not expect them to win this year without Villa.

Almadacr · 06-21-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RaijinUT

I think Spain is safe for this round... but I do not expect them to win this year without Villa.

Villa is not there but as long they have Iniesta ( he scored the winning goal on the 2010 world cup ) they have the same chances . France has a problem in the room ( too many egos as i read in the news ) but for sure Benzema will take advantage of having Sergio Ramos in D .

06-19-2012, 01:46 AM	#181
ManUtd Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:632 PS3 collection:11 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Hardware reviews:5 Trading Score:3	BTW, while this might be "legal" it sure doesn't look right. When Iniesta got the ball from Fabregas he was onside. Navas however was in an offside position but since he wasn't part of the play there was no call at that moment. However when Iniesta moved forward he immediately passed the ball to Navas who suddenly became an "eligible receiver" who was just deemed to be in a passive offside position. If it were up to me, Navas was offside when he got the ball from Iniesta. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss

06-19-2012, 12:00 PM	#183
,deeii Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Netherlands Steelbooks™: 42 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:209 PS3 collection:13 Trading Score:4	Change your avatar John. What a disgrace at the moment. Andy. A world of pounding beats, pure melodies, and euphoria. A State of Trance.

06-19-2012, 07:41 PM	#185
ManUtd Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:632 PS3 collection:11 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Hardware reviews:5 Trading Score:3	Nothing much has happened in the first half of both matches. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss

06-19-2012, 08:20 PM	#189
ManUtd Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:632 PS3 collection:11 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Hardware reviews:5 Trading Score:3	Ukraine had two great chances on goal in the second half, header on the corner kick and the one that crossed the line, shouldn't have been allowed in the first place...both were offsides! Another display of poor officiating this time by the linesman. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss

06-19-2012, 08:41 PM	#190
silversnake Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray collection:472 PS3 collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:31	FOR SHAME FRANCE! What kind of game was that. Pathetic. MAIN Samsung 52" 60 hz Denon AVR 890 Polk 5.1 RM85 PS3 320GB Move bundle OPPO-80 Region Free Harmony One Remote Trade Thread

06-19-2012, 12:08 PM	#184
beadelf Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:London Blu-ray collection:- PS3 collection:- Blu-ray reviews:52	the day is dragging i feel like i need to be in the pub preparing myself for the england game!!!

06-19-2012, 07:45 PM	#186
newginafets Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Loma Linda, CA Blu-ray collection:1272 PS3 collection:1 Trading Score:84	Oh England u need to step up the game

06-19-2012, 08:41 PM	#191
ManUtd Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:632 PS3 collection:11 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Hardware reviews:5 Trading Score:3	So, England faces Italy and France meets Spain in the QF. Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss

06-20-2012, 09:03 AM	#194
beadelf Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:London Blu-ray collection:- PS3 collection:- Blu-ray reviews:52	not the greatest performance by england, but a win all the same, we topped the group and avoided spain for now!! lets see how sunday plays out!!! i have some hope though!

06-20-2012, 07:00 PM	#196
RaijinUT Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Salt Lake City Blu-ray collection:138 PS3 collection:74	So what is everyone thoughts for the next round? Does anyone see anyone but Germany, Portugal, Spain, and Italy advancing? "This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there" A.K.A. Sweet John PSN: RaijinUT, 360 Gamertag: I Raijin I, Steam: Raijin, Origin: Raijins, Wii U: Raijinslc Mr. Beautiful's number 1 groupie and one proud Malamute owner

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