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Paradigm 137 54.58%
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:48 AM   #3481
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hi,

i just buy a new paradigm 7.1 system
monitor 9 S7
Center 1
Atom (side)
surround 1 ( back )

(use in BD movies from computer - games over HDMI - little bit music)

have 2 question

1- until now a confuse about choose av receiver .
onkyo 809 or cambridgeaudio Azur 551R , i looking for sound quality.
about 551r it only 60w at 8 ohms and the 809 have too much Features can i use over the 551r. are 60w can handle this system .

2. stability on sub woofer PDR-80 , are this model good enough to the system (I'm not fond with bass too much)
audition both if you can, however the onkyo has audyssey, and that would be great for calibration. personally Id go with the onkyo.
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:14 AM   #3482
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hi,

i just buy a new paradigm 7.1 system
monitor 9 S7
Center 1
Atom (side)
surround 1 ( back )

(use in BD movies from computer - games over HDMI - little bit music)

have 2 question

1- until now a confuse about choose av receiver .
onkyo 809 or cambridgeaudio Azur 551R , i looking for sound quality.
about 551r it only 60w at 8 ohms and the 809 have too much Features can i use over the 551r. are 60w can handle this system .

2. stability on sub woofer PDR-80 , are this model good enough to the system (I'm not fond with bass too much)

I agree with Callas i would audition both AVR to stop your choice but why limit yourself to only those 2 AVR?

The 809 should be able to handle the speakers quite easily as it is a strong powerful receiver, the Cambridge, altho only 60wpc with 7 channels driven and even during impedance dip so it's the reason why you have to audition. It's actually 90wpc in stereo plus it has a slim design that some people like.

As for the Sub, to keep up with your system I would have gone for the 10 inch rather than regret it later or you could look for online companies like HSU who will provide you much better bang for the buck.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:44 PM   #3483
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I'm looking for some input

I just purchased a pair of 60's v5 - CC-690 v5 and I am currently powering them with UMC-1/XPA-5 combo , my question is I can get a deal on a MRX-500 but if I did that I would have to sell the UMC-1/XPA-5 combo.
Do you think the MRX-500 would have enough juice to power my setup ?
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:25 PM   #3484
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I agree with Callas i would audition both AVR to stop your choice but why limit yourself to only those 2 AVR?

because i need all the Features in 809 ,but in the same way in need a good quality of sound , for that if 551R has a big difference quality ,i will Sacrifice with all Features in 809 for get more good sound.

you have any other good optional ?

i think if onkyo make AV receiver same Features to 551R it will be half price on cambridgeaudio , for that it must be a big difference between them !
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:10 PM   #3485
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because i need all the Features in 809 ,but in the same way in need a good quality of sound , for that if 551R has a big difference quality ,i will Sacrifice with all Features in 809 for get more good sound.

you have any other good optional ?

i think if onkyo make AV receiver same Features to 551R it will be half price on cambridgeaudio , for that it must be a big difference between them !
Well in this case May I suggest the Arcam AVR360, maybe a little pricier than the Cambridge with Amazing SQ and slightly more power than the Cabridge, THe Onkyos are not too shabby in terms on SQ, Performance is outstanding when reaching the 800+ series, in past review of HT Mag the 807 had been giver a 5 stars rating for performance while the Cambridge Azur650 got 4.5 stars.

Arcam had 4 of their AVRs reviewd and always got a 5 stars rating in terms of performance but the smaller companies often have issues with HDMI. It's entirely up to you what you prefer. If I were you I would be looking at the Cousin of the Onkyo 809, the Integra 50.3, maybe a little more robust but it has yet to be proven but anyhow Integra offers a better warranty 3 years vs 2.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:13 PM   #3486
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I'm looking for some input

I just purchased a pair of 60's v5 - CC-690 v5 and I am currently powering them with UMC-1/XPA-5 combo , my question is I can get a deal on a MRX-500 but if I did that I would have to sell the UMC-1/XPA-5 combo.
Do you think the MRX-500 would have enough juice to power my setup ?
In 5.1 yes, in 7.1 forget it, As amazing AVR the Anthems are when driving 5 channels, their performance dimnished when driving all 7 channels unless you get a 2 channel amp to power your fronts. i don't think you would be getting as much power as the XPA5 tho if this what you are looking for but I do not know this as a fact.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:30 PM   #3487
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In 5.1 yes, in 7.1 forget it, As amazing AVR the Anthems are when driving 5 channels, their performance dimnished when driving all 7 channels unless you get a 2 channel amp to power your fronts. i don't think you would be getting as much power as the XPA5 tho if this what you are looking for but I do not know this as a fact.
I hooked up my 60's last night to a Emotiva Mini-X and a CB Dac / SB just to check out the Mini-X and I was floored how good it sounded with this small 50W 2CH amp. I barley had to turn up the volume
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:23 AM   #3488
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I hooked up my 60's last night to a Emotiva Mini-X and a CB Dac / SB just to check out the Mini-X and I was floored how good it sounded with this small 50W 2CH amp. I barley had to turn up the volume
Right on the Wattage is not always an indication on how it's goign to sound but usually more headroom is always a good thing and the Digms can usually take a load of power so this is why I encourage to audition. I just feel the Anthems shine when you are driving no more than 5 channels on them.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:06 AM   #3489
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Right on the Wattage is not always an indication on how it's goign to sound but usually more headroom is always a good thing and the Digms can usually take a load of power so this is why I encourage to audition. I just feel the Anthems shine when you are driving no more than 5 channels on them.
I'm going to go for it and if it needs more power down the road I can always add to it
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:21 AM   #3490
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I'm going to go for it and if it needs more power down the road I can always add to it
Congrats, the Anthem is agreat pairing as you alredy know to the Paradigm products so you should be pretty satisfied with it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:36 AM   #3491
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hi,

1- what is the best AWG for wire for for monitor 9 S7 , surround 1 and center 1 ( max length from AV receiver to Speaker will be 35 ft) ? and does i need to be all speakers same AWG ?and there is a good / recommended brand for wire.

2- if i want to make the system 7 channel are the atom speaker best optional for that ( note: room volume = 2750 cu ft) ? and if yes , are the surround 1 will be back side or side ?

3-does i feel any difference if i use a bi-speaker for monitor 9 ?
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:01 AM   #3492
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hi,

1- what is the best AWG for wire for for monitor 9 S7 , surround 1 and center 1 ( max length from AV receiver to Speaker will be 35 ft) ? and does i need to be all speakers same AWG ?and there is a good / recommended brand for wire.

2- if i want to make the system 7 channel are the atom speaker best optional for that ( note: room volume = 2750 cu ft) ? and if yes , are the surround 1 will be back side or side ?

3-does i feel any difference if i use a bi-speaker for monitor 9 ?
Id go with 14 or 12 gauge wire for all your wiring. go to blue jeans cable, they have good cable for not to much.

I would put the surround 1s on the side, for the surround backs you could use either the atoms or another pair of surround 1s. go with whatever works best for you

bi-wire/(passive) bi-amping has no real added value, so I wouldnt worry about it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:41 AM   #3493
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Id go with 14 or 12 gauge wire for all your wiring. go to blue jeans cable, they have good cable for not to much.

I would put the surround 1s on the side, for the surround backs you could use either the atoms or another pair of surround 1s. go with whatever works best for you

bi-wire/(passive) bi-amping has no real added value, so I wouldnt worry about it.
-about the cable brand , i will looking for it now.
-i prefer atom , to make some diversity in speakers. are the size of the room good for 7.1 ? or it too much
-if choose bi-amping i must buy onkyo 1009 if not i will buy 809 ( i need to be 7.1 all time)
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:30 AM   #3494
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-about the cable brand , i will looking for it now.
-i prefer atom , to make some diversity in speakers. are the size of the room good for 7.1 ? or it too much
-if choose bi-amping i must buy onkyo 1009 if not i will buy 809 ( i need to be 7.1 all time)
Don't bother with bi amping, I tried bi amping my Monitor 9v6 and it made no difference what so ever. Also tried bi amping my Studio 100's and it wasn't worth the time and effort again.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:33 PM   #3495
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-about the cable brand , i will looking for it now.
-i prefer atom , to make some diversity in speakers. are the size of the room good for 7.1 ? or it too much
-if choose bi-amping i must buy onkyo 1009 if not i will buy 809 ( i need to be 7.1 all time)
I agree with aces high

I went from bi-wire to standard 10 gauge wire from Emotiva and heard no difference between the two. I also had my onkyo 3007 running 9.2 & 7.2 channels at one point in a 11X13 room and find that I'm very pleased with a 5.2 channel setup.

I wouldn't bother with bi-amping or bi-wiring either. Too much time, money & effort only to end up with the same results!

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Old 07-05-2012, 10:40 AM   #3496
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Hi guys,

I'm in Australia but been a member for a while.

Looking to upgrade from my v5 studio 100s,690 and 20s to the signature
S8,c5 and s2 for rears.

Haven't heard them yet, is it worth the upgrade?
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:52 AM   #3497
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Hi guys,

I'm in Australia but been a member for a while.

Looking to upgrade from my v5 studio 100s,690 and 20s to the signature
S8,c5 and s2 for rears.

Haven't heard them yet, is it worth the upgrade?
ive heard the S8s they are absolutely incredible if you can afford them id get them !
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So I started my first system and even though its not as prestige as most I like my setup so far. I didn't want to wait for the stands so I used what I had for now
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So I started my first system and even though its not as prestige as most I like my setup so far. I didn't want to wait for the stands so I used what I had for now
very nice setup
what avr are you using?
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