Batman Reboot

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Taro

It's hard to believe that Nolan is going to be directing this reboot.

He isn't. He's not involved at all anymore.

[mlittle3]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

He isn't. He's not involved at all anymore.

Which means it will most certainly be a cheese fest and suck.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Taro

It's hard to believe that Nolan is going to be directing this reboot.

It IS hard to believe since Nolan has said he will have NOTHING to do with the reboot in any way, shape, or form.

[Project-Zep]

Honestly I look foward to the reboot, Nolan makes good movies and is a good film maker but he isn't the best man for Batman. He's not even a fan of the comics, I honestly credit Goyer a lot for the Batman stuff since he's a comic book nut himself. There are a lot of places the series can go and hopefully with the right film maker I look forward to that. Now as another reboot, I'd figure why not do what they did with the Batman films of the past and recast or even just make a loose sequel like Incredible Hulk which was a new take but somewhat of a sequel to the original Hulk. And that way we can get Jon Hamm to play an older Batman as well and have more obscure villains, hell even include Hush.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Project-Zep

Honestly I look foward to the reboot, Nolan makes good movies and is a good film maker but he isn't the best man for Batman. He's not even a fan of the comics, I honestly credit Goyer a lot for the Batman stuff since he's a comic book nut himself. There are a lot of places the series can go and hopefully with the right film maker I look forward to that. Now as another reboot, I'd figure why not do what they did with the Batman films of the past and recast or even just make a loose sequel like Incredible Hulk which was a new take but somewhat of a sequel to the original Hulk. And that way we can get Jon Hamm to play an older Batman as well and have more obscure villains, hell even include Hush.

I still have no idea how or why people keep saying this. The two films are completely severed from one another in every which way aside from having a man who turns into a big green monster. Otherwise there is no connection between the two.

Batman Reboot will have nothing to do with Nolan's universe. And I have a feeling Nolan decided to make certain of that with his treatment of the character in Rises. Something will happen in this film which will make any potential for carry over impossible.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by mlittle3

Which means it will most certainly be a cheese fest and suck.

Just stop now, please.

[TheForce8686]

Originally Posted by therainberg

I honestly think they could easily get away with making another Batman movie right after the newest entry. All they need to do is hire Snyder or Burton, bring back Michael Keaton, and make The Dark Knight Returns! The casual and geek audience will welcome it with wide open arms. Doing this will give them some breathing room to reboot again after this with a new younger batman to keep the money train rolling.

The problem they had with Michael Keaton the first time around is that batman is supposed to be a tough guy which Michael Keaton certainly is not.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by Project-Zep

Honestly I look foward to the reboot, Nolan makes good movies and is a good film maker but he isn't the best man for Batman. He's not even a fan of the comics, I honestly credit Goyer a lot for the Batman stuff since he's a comic book nut himself. There are a lot of places the series can go and hopefully with the right film maker I look forward to that. Now as another reboot, I'd figure why not do what they did with the Batman films of the past and recast or even just make a loose sequel like Incredible Hulk which was a new take but somewhat of a sequel to the original Hulk. And that way we can get Jon Hamm to play an older Batman as well and have more obscure villains, hell even include Hush.

I would give Nolan a lot more credit for his films than Goyer. Goyer may be a comic book fan, but that doesn't mean the Nolan brothers are unfamiliar with the character.
Nolan has read enough comics to understand the core concepts around the character, and he and his brother are good enough writers to write extremely satisfying stories around these characters.

I've read enough terrible fan fiction to know that being a comic book nut isn't enough to be a good writer. One of my favorite films of last year, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, was written and directed by people who weren't the biggest fans of the books but had enough appreciation of its strengths to create a really strong film.

I have no doubt that Goyer is a talented writer, since he's written quite a few of my favorite films... but his best films were written with cooperation with some of the most creative minds in the industry. Without Christopher/Jonathan Nolan or Alex Proyas, we ged Jumper and The Unborn.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by therainberg

I honestly think they could easily get away with making another Batman movie right after the newest entry. All they need to do is hire Snyder or Burton, bring back Michael Keaton, and make The Dark Knight Returns! The casual and geek audience will welcome it with wide open arms. Doing this will give them some breathing room to reboot again after this with a new younger batman to keep the money train rolling.

I'd hate to have Zack Snyder or Tim Burton. They make good films occasionally, but they're too much style/no substance. And I think we've seen enough The Dark Knight Returns(two cartoons, and multiple printed editions). And no one would ever be completely satisfied by an adaptation.
I'm a fan of Zack Snyder's Watchmen, but it has so many flaws and every tiny little altered detail is a slap in the face to purist fans of Alan Moore's novel. Another problem is that Dave Gibbons art was specifically designed so that the visual storytelling would be strongest in graphic novel form. Any sort of motion or camera pans or edits, etc. break the flow that Moore and Gibbons worked on.
I don't see The Dark Knight Returns as being a particularly easy book to adapt.

My ideal reboot is adapting Batman Beyond.
I don't want gritty contemporary realism and I don't want gothic campyness. I want a Blade Runner style Batman film that looks shiny and slick while staying true to the series' darker dystopian themes.
We wouldn't have to get used to a new Bruce Wayne because we'd be seeing a completely different character don the cowl. Also I could see WB doing this since there's suddenly this huge trend of rebooting dystopian future film franchises right now(Dredd, Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers). And it wouldn't exactly get in the way of a Justice League movie.
I can't think of any directors, but Duncan Jones would be a good choice.

[beckmen]

Am I the only one who loves the Nolan films, but doesn't mind him leaving? I would much rather have an intentional trilogy, with a beginning, middle and and end...instead of X amount of movies that eventually end due to lack of interest and without intentional conclusion. I also welcome other takes on the character and world.

If I were WB, I would mandate that the reboot needs to have a somewhat-less-realistic villain to easily tie it into Justice League mythos. However that might prove difficult, considering Killer Croc would illicit comparisons to The Lizard, Ra's was just done in the last reboot, and most of the other ones are not exactly first-string villains. Hmm.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by beckmen

Am I the only one who loves the Nolan films, but doesn't mind him leaving? I would much rather have an intentional trilogy, with a beginning, middle and and end...instead of X amount of movies that eventually end due to lack of interest and without intentional conclusion. I also welcome other takes on the character and world.

If I were WB, I would mandate that the reboot needs to have a somewhat-less-realistic villain to easily tie it into Justice League mythos. However that might prove difficult, considering Killer Croc would illicit comparisons to The Lizard, Ra's was just done in the last reboot, and most of the other ones are not exactly first-string villains. Hmm.

... Yeah I'm pretty sure you are not the only person in the world who loves Christopher Nolan's films and doesn't mind having him leaving the Batman franchise.
Most people I've talked to are huge fans of his films, and they are glad to see that the film will have a real ending(since so many series refuse to die nowadays). People don't want a reboot, but most are totally fine with Nolan leaving the series to pursue his own personal films, such as that Howard Hughes film he wanted to do.

[Blu Ian]

I think it will be hard to top Nolans trilogy.

It's pretty much perfect.

[hawaii sun]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

I actually think it would be nice to get someone who isn't extremely well known. A big guy, in the 6'4 range so someone like Joseph Levitt would never work.

Someone 25-35yo.

My choice is Matthew Marsden.

[JonD7]

I say F Nolan, F Goyer...

What we need is a film written by Paul Dini... an animated film like Beowulf with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill voicing, only way to do it correctly.

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by Blu Ian

I think it will be hard to top Nolans trilogy.

It's pretty much perfect.

my thoughts too, id be happy if there wasnt another batman movie ever in my lifetime, do some new adult oriented animated series but no more movies.

also keep the arkham games going to

[Gilmourfan]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

It IS hard to believe since Nolan has said he will have NOTHING to do with the reboot in any way, shape, or form.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

It IS hard to believe since Nolan has said he will have NOTHING to do with the reboot in any way, shape, or form.

Originally Posted by Taro

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

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[HockeySlasher]

Originally Posted by TheForce8686

The problem they had with Michael Keaton the first time around is that batman is supposed to be a tough guy which Michael Keaton certainly is not.

Yes, because the likes of Val Kilmer and George Clooney strike fear into others . . .

Personally, I think Keaton did a great job as Batman. He has that personality that really made playing Wayne/Batman work.

[Jumpman]

In all honesty, I kind of wish more of these films would do what the DC animated films have done. Take an existing comic story and just adapt that.

That way you can make these characters and their mythos into James Bond, which is what this genre needs to become anyway.

WB should just take the 10 best Batman graphic novels and just adapt them over the next 20 years. No continuity between them. Just an open and closed single story each time out, while you sub out actors every 2 to 3 movies, depending on how committed the actor is to the character.

It's been working for Bond forever. Why not these comic book movies?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

He isn't. He's not involved at all anymore.

Best thing that could have happened. Now maybe we'll get good Batman movies again.