Halloween 4/Halloween 5 ~ Blu-rays 8/21/12 - Reviews

[bdisc]

Originally Posted by leem6453

If these BDs get a slip, they will be the first in the Halloween franchise to do so. For that reason, I don't really care if they do or not.

After some more thought on which Halloweens I would rank as the best, this is my list:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween H20
Halloween 6
Halloween (Rob Zombie)
Halloween II (Rob Zombie)

I know you're probably thinking, "H5 is better than Halloween II and H20?!". But yes, I find H5 to have more special qualities than those two films.

Sometimes movies that are worse are actually better, because they're more different.

[leem6453]

Originally Posted by bdisc

After some more thought on which Halloweens I would rank as the best, this is my list:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween H20
Halloween 6
Halloween (Rob Zombie)
Halloween II (Rob Zombie)

I know you're probably thinking, "H5 is better than Halloween II and H20?!". But yes, I find H5 to have more special qualities than those two films.

Sometimes movies that are worse are actually better, because they're more different.

I actually half agree with you. I am not a big fan of H20. My ranking:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween 4
Halloween 6
Halloween II (2009)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween III
Halloween (2007)
Halloween 5
Halloween H20
Halloween Resurrection

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by bdisc

After some more thought on which Halloweens I would rank as the best, this is my list:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween H20
Halloween 6
Halloween (Rob Zombie)
Halloween II (Rob Zombie)

I know you're probably thinking, "H5 is better than Halloween II and H20?!". But yes, I find H5 to have more special qualities than those two films.

Sometimes movies that are worse are actually better, because they're more different.

I'd put part 2 and the first Zombie film above parts 5 and 6. Sorry but those are just dreadful films in every way.

Other than that you're dead on. I particularly agree with putting H20 so low, mainly because I never thought the Halloween movies worked without Dr. Loomis. That's the one thing that is glaringly missing from H20.

I've discussed this with a buddy of mine but I actually wished Zombie would've focused the first Halloween entirely on Michael's child hood. I think that would've made for a VERY interesting film and I would've had the film end with Michael escaping Smith's Grove. Then he could've put more focus and development on part 2 with Michael coming back to Haddonfield and Dr. Loomis trying to stop him.

Here's my order...

Halloween
Halloween 4
Halloween 2
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Halloween H20
Halloween 5
Halloween 6
Halloween Resurrection
Rob Zombie's Halloween 2

[Malcolm_B]

Investors wouldn't have let Zombie settle strictly on a child Michael Myers movie. Having been on the fringes of the "industry," things can get very whacky as far as "money people" are concerned, sad to say. Art doesn't belong to the artists, it belongs to the people who pay the artists.

[Forever Knight]

My rankings:

HalloweeN, 2, 4, 5, 3, Curse, H20, Zombie's films, Resurrection.

[Beachguy]

I'll be buying Halloween 2 and 4 on Bluray this later summer/early fall on release dates.

I'll skip parts 3 and 5 -- I don't like those movies.

Halloween rankings:

Halloween '78
Halloween 4 '88
Halloween 2 '81
Halloween 6 Producer's Cut '95 "only"



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The filler:

Halloween 5
Halloween 3
Halloween 7 - H20 - Non-scary teeniebopper mess of the stained 90's decade
Halloween 6
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Halloween 8
Rob Zombie's Halloween 2

[bookcase]

I don't consider the Zombie movies as part of this franchise because they were awful, especially the second one.

[Beachguy]

Halloween 4!

Does anyone know when the book was written? Was it before or after the movie? The reason I ask is because of the 30 minutes of deleted scenes on Halloween 4.

One scene that sticks out is Jamie and Rachael walking home as Michael Myers follows them after the drugstore scene. Just wondering if these were ever shot?

Can't wait to see what they are???

[Forever Knight]

I'll be so ****ing happy to get these 3 final films on blu-ray.

[DuncanChrist]

Originally Posted by Beachguy

Halloween 4!

Does anyone know when the book was written? Was it before or after the movie? The reason I ask is because of the 30 minutes of deleted scenes on Halloween 4.

One scene that sticks out is Jamie and Rachael walking home as Michael Myers follows them after the drugstore scene. Just wondering if these were ever shot?

Can't wait to see what they are???

The printing date on my copy of the novel is from 1988. But it says "Now a major motion picture" on the top. The movie came out October 21st of that year so I would say the book came out afterwards. It was based off the screenplay of the movie as well.

[Nostromo]

My ranking:

Halloween
Halloween 2
Halloween 5
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween H2O
Halloween: Resurrection
Halloween 4
Halloween 3
Halloween Two (Zombie)
Halloween (Zombie)

[leem6453]

Originally Posted by Nostromo

My ranking:

Halloween
Halloween 2
Halloween 5
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween H2O
Halloween: Resurrection
Halloween 4
Halloween 3
Halloween Two (Zombie)
Halloween (Zombie)

VERY interesting order my friend. One thing I love about this franchise is the diversity of fans' preferences of the sequels. I'm really looking forward to finally watching all these in HD this October.

[mayorofsmpleton]

Originally Posted by Beachguy

Halloween 4!

Does anyone know when the book was written? Was it before or after the movie? The reason I ask is because of the 30 minutes of deleted scenes on Halloween 4.

One scene that sticks out is Jamie and Rachael walking home as Michael Myers follows them after the drugstore scene. Just wondering if these were ever shot?

Can't wait to see what they are???

Typically the way these work is the novelizations are written based on the shooting script but it's done and ready for release often before the film is fully edited, etc. So often they include scenes that were shot and cut, or cut prior to filming. They like to have the novelizations released around the same time the film is released (sometimes a novelization will come out a month or so prior).

I guess we won't know until the disc is released. What else is in the novelization that's not in the film?

[Rocky01542]

My ranking:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween III: Season of the Witch
Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (2009)
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers
Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers
Halloween: Ressurrection

[steev210]

My ranking would be:

Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween 4 (1988)
Halloween:Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
RZ's Halloween (2007) theatrical/direrctor's cut
Halloween H20 (1998)
Halloween 5 (1989)
Halloween III (1982)
Halloween:Resurrection (2002)
RZ's Halloween II (2009) theatrical
RZ's Halloween II (2009) director's cut

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Halloween (1978)
Halloween H20
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween 6
Halloween: Resurrection
Halloween II (2009)
Halloween (2007)

[zafisher94]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I've discussed this with a buddy of mine but I actually wished Zombie would've focused the first Halloween entirely on Michael's child hood. I think that would've made for a VERY interesting film and I would've had the film end with Michael escaping Smith's Grove. Then he could've put more focus and development on part 2 with Michael coming back to Haddonfield and Dr. Loomis trying to stop him.

When they originally contacted RZ, they wanted him to direct another sequel after H:R. RZ turned them down, so they came back to him with a remake. Zombie then pitched it as a 2 part movie. The first movie would end exactly when Michael escapes Smith's Grove (i guess great minds think alike). Then the 2nd movie would be more of the remake. I think it would've worked fantastic.

[mayorofsmpleton]

Originally Posted by zafisher94

When they originally contacted RZ, they wanted him to direct another sequel after H:R. RZ turned them down, so they came back to him with a remake. Zombie then pitched it as a 2 part movie. The first movie would end exactly when Michael escapes Smith's Grove (i guess great minds think alike). Then the 2nd movie would be more of the remake. I think it would've worked fantastic.

Well that's kind of what he does with the first film anyway. It's a solid hour before Michael escapes and we get to Haddonfield... so one could argue he still did what he intended -- it was just packaged together in one 2 hour film.

[zafisher94]

Originally Posted by mayorofsmpleton

Well that's kind of what he does with the first film anyway. It's a solid hour before Michael escapes and we get to Haddonfield... so one could argue he still did what he intended -- it was just packaged together in one 2 hour film.

Indeed. You can feel the movie take on a whole different tone once Michael escapes. While I love the movie, my biggest complaint is how rushed it feels from Michael's escape to when he takes Laurie to the house. I think if Rob would've been able to do it how he intended, things would've been a lot more epic.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by zafisher94

Indeed. You can feel the movie take on a whole different tone once Michael escapes. While I love the movie, my biggest complaint is how rushed it feels from Michael's escape to when he takes Laurie to the house. I think if Rob would've been able to do it how he intended, things would've been a lot more epic.

Which is why Zombie's take on the franchise is bestto when viewing both films in succession. The lack of development on Laurie sucks in his first Halloween film but it's all right there in the second. Especially in the director's cut on Blu.