List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras - Page 66 - Blu-ray Forum

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanboyz

ONE BAD FRAME.

Really get over it.

This kind of illogical statement just doesn't compute with me. This was an easy mistake to catch and yet they didn't.

wesslan · 07-15-2012, 12:59 AM

AND it has some DNR that the other discs haven't so it clearly should be on the list.

Fanboyz · 07-15-2012, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

This kind of illogical statement just doesn't compute with me. This was an easy mistake to catch and yet they didn't.

Yes because it's invisible on a QC check as it's a single frame.
As in one 24th of a second.
I would know I watched the disc. I didn't arbitrarily decide it was Inferior because a random grab of single frame showed an error in Lowry's scratch removal.

There is no DNR, to say so would be an error on the list. There is Lowry/Relliance scratch removal which a completely different tool.

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanboyz

Yes because it's invisible on a QC check as it's a single frame.
As in one 24th of a second.
I would know I watched the disc. I didn't arbitrarily decide it was Inferior because a random grab of single frame showed an error in Lowry's scratch removal.

There is no DNR, to say so would be an error on the list. There is Lowry/Relliance scratch removal which a completely different tool.

It is indeed like something we saw out of the original Gladiator release, which was the same issue I believe. I edited the entry.

wesslan · 07-15-2012, 01:11 PM

I´m not talking about some blobs or scratches removed. Seen comparison screens where there whole picture is much softer than DE/UK and that sure is DNR filter of some form so there is two problems, not one.

HD Goofnut · 07-15-2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesslan

I´m not talking about some blobs or scratches removed. Seen comparison screens where there whole picture is much softer than DE/UK and that sure is DNR filter of some form so there is two problems, not one.

I just went back and looked at the rest of the screen captures and I definitely agree with you. There's something making the picture slightly softer on the US version.

Fanboyz · 07-15-2012, 06:51 PM

Not DNR the brightness is different, that's all.

wesslan · 07-15-2012, 09:49 PM

Check out the awful compression issues which is bad since US disc have higher bitrate

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

Torrente · 07-16-2012, 12:27 AM

I have all those 3 editions... in fact I also have the german steelbook edition and the dutch (I know I know... what can I say? I'm a sucker when it comes to Dolphy

) and the US is definitely the best. There's no match absolutely no match at all about the edition to chose! Believe me

(or don't... but take that road at your own risks

)

wesslan · 07-16-2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torrente

I have all those 3 editions... in fact I also have the german edition steelbook and the dutch (I know I know... what can I say? I'm a sucker when it comes to Dolphy

) and the US is definitely the best. There's no match absolutely no match at all about the edition to chose! Believe me

(or don't... but take that road at your own risks

)

Best how? US have different extras than UK but better?, scratch removal mistake on Dolphs face, clearly more compression artifacts over both UK and DE disc and a not original 5.1 audio track (why anyone would want that) besides the original 2.0. I haven't got any version myself yet since I can't decide on what to buy but my list doesn't make the US looks any better over the other so I'm very interested to know why you think so

Torrente · 07-16-2012, 01:11 AM

Well it's hard to explain.
I don't think the caps comparison pointed on this thread make the US one the weakest one. On the contrary. You have to hardly look to find 2 caps in this comparison which would look better on another edition. But all the other frames prove (at least to me) that the US indeed is better.
There is less video noise on the US disc when I watch the movie on my screen, with a better grain structure too apart from perhaps 2 scenes.
In terms of bonus materials, I found that the US one was more interesting.
As for the sound... I honestly don't care so I won't be a good judge of that.

Hope I managed to answer a bit to your querries...
I know it's difficult to chose which edition to buy. And at the end of the day, it's only my point of view, I would totally understand that you wouldn't want to decide just on the behalf of my thoughts

I would say that overall the US disc is the best option, then I would rank the dutch edition second (which has a strong and somehow different looking picture), and the UK edition, third (different batch of extras).

illini2000 · 07-16-2012, 08:53 AM

Cassandra's Dream (woody allen)
Finland, AVC, PCM 2.0, 1.85 Listed as Region B, but plays on Region A as well. All scandanavian subtitles available (incl. Icelandic). 24hz

Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region

Hollywood Ending
Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region

the Australian woody allen documentary is DTS HD MA, not DD 5.1

HD Goofnut · 07-16-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illini2000

Cassandra's Dream (woody allen)
Finland, AVC, PCM 2.0, 1.85 Listed as Region B, but plays on Region A as well. All scandanavian subtitles available (incl. Icelandic). 24hz

Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region

Hollywood Ending
Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region

the Australian woody allen documentary is DTS HD MA, not DD 5.1

Done.

Sky_Captain · 07-16-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torrente

I would rank the dutch edition second

While the Dutch version admittedly has great PQ, it has no lossless audio at all and practically zero extras.

Torrente · 07-16-2012, 07:32 PM

I totally agree.
I only spoke about PQ which is the thing that interests me most.

wesslan · 07-16-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

While the Dutch version admittedly has great PQ, it has no lossless audio at all and practically zero extras.

The german has lossless and same great PQ and I'm not that into extras anyway so that decides it for me.

ricster · 07-17-2012, 09:05 PM

Aeon flux. Germany.

Mpeg4-avc and dts hd ma 5.1 track,

agoofykindasuperman · 07-18-2012, 02:05 AM

Great post, thanks for all the hard work

Could you possibly add The Hole (2009 kid movie) to the list? I know it has several International releases, some/most have 3D, but the US has just had a version announced, and doesn't look like it's getting a 3D release, but other than that, will there be any major differences in sound/picture quality? Thanks!

HD Goofnut · 07-18-2012, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agoofykindasuperman

Great post, thanks for all the hard work

Could you possibly add The Hole (2009 kid movie) to the list? I know it has several International releases, some/most have 3D, but the US has just had a version announced, and doesn't look like it's getting a 3D release, but other than that, will there be any major differences in sound/picture quality? Thanks!

Thanks very much.

I have added the entry.

A.Fenderson · 07-18-2012, 08:38 AM

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me has a UK release (horrible release if the Amazon.co.uk reviewers are trusted, but I thought you might want to include for completeness), and a Japanese release--any info on this Japanese version? I'd prefer to stay away from the Region B locked French one if possible.

Also, I think you changed your shorthand for Germany at some point from DE to GE , such as in the Eraserhead listing. Also in that listing, you give JP video bitrate as 29.90 kbps and I think you meant Mbps. While on the subject, any idea if there's a picture difference here between German and Japanese? The Japanese packaging is more appealing to me, but it has the 16-bit audio vs. the DE 24-bit, so kinda on the fence with this one.

07-15-2012, 06:51 PM	#1307
Fanboyz Suspended Member since:Feb 2010 Location:St. Paul Minnesota Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:2014 PS3 collection:17 Trading Score:1	Not DNR the brightness is different, that's all. thompsonjohn has been known to enjoy the furry lifestyle, and has a habit of making obscene phone calls to the JCC.

07-17-2012, 09:05 PM	#1317
ricster Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Great Britain Home Theater Gallery:1572 Trading Score:9	Aeon flux. Germany. Mpeg4-avc and dts hd ma 5.1 track, Rule: I'm not buying a blu unless either steelbook/slipcover/digibook but will if its a film I really enjoy or limited Update : Tue 18th Sep 2012 - Added 56 to Steels part 3/3, 27 to slips 2, 25 to LE Steelbooks 1 (150) Steelbooks 2 (150) Steelbooks 3 (67) Limited Editions (120) Slips 1/2 (150) Slips 2/2 (150) Digibooks (6)

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agoofykindasuperman Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:724 PS3 collection:24 Blu-ray reviews:1	Great post, thanks for all the hard work Could you possibly add The Hole (2009 kid movie) to the list? I know it has several International releases, some/most have 3D, but the US has just had a version announced, and doesn't look like it's getting a 3D release, but other than that, will there be any major differences in sound/picture quality? Thanks! Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO141FD Owner My Flickr

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07-15-2012, 12:59 AM	#1302
wesslan Special Member Member since:Feb 2010	AND it has some DNR that the other discs haven't so it clearly should be on the list.

07-15-2012, 01:11 PM	#1305
wesslan Special Member Member since:Feb 2010	I´m not talking about some blobs or scratches removed. Seen comparison screens where there whole picture is much softer than DE/UK and that sure is DNR filter of some form so there is two problems, not one.

07-15-2012, 09:49 PM	#1308
wesslan Special Member Member since:Feb 2010	Check out the awful compression issues which is bad since US disc have higher bitrate http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

07-16-2012, 12:27 AM	#1309
Torrente Expert Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:France Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:21	I have all those 3 editions... in fact I also have the german steelbook edition and the dutch (I know I know... what can I say? I'm a sucker when it comes to Dolphy ) and the US is definitely the best. There's no match absolutely no match at all about the edition to chose! Believe me (or don't... but take that road at your own risks )

07-16-2012, 01:11 AM	#1311
Torrente Expert Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:France Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:21	Well it's hard to explain. I don't think the caps comparison pointed on this thread make the US one the weakest one. On the contrary. You have to hardly look to find 2 caps in this comparison which would look better on another edition. But all the other frames prove (at least to me) that the US indeed is better. There is less video noise on the US disc when I watch the movie on my screen, with a better grain structure too apart from perhaps 2 scenes. In terms of bonus materials, I found that the US one was more interesting. As for the sound... I honestly don't care so I won't be a good judge of that. Hope I managed to answer a bit to your querries... I know it's difficult to chose which edition to buy. And at the end of the day, it's only my point of view, I would totally understand that you wouldn't want to decide just on the behalf of my thoughts I would say that overall the US disc is the best option, then I would rank the dutch edition second (which has a strong and somehow different looking picture), and the UK edition, third (different batch of extras).

07-16-2012, 08:53 AM	#1312
illini2000 Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:508	Cassandra's Dream (woody allen) Finland, AVC, PCM 2.0, 1.85 Listed as Region B, but plays on Region A as well. All scandanavian subtitles available (incl. Icelandic). 24hz Curse of the Jade Scorpion Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region Hollywood Ending Finland, DD 2.0 (192kbps), 1.77, AVC, 24hz all region the Australian woody allen documentary is DTS HD MA, not DD 5.1

07-16-2012, 07:32 PM	#1315
Torrente Expert Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:France Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:21	I totally agree. I only spoke about PQ which is the thing that interests me most.

07-18-2012, 08:38 AM	#1320
A.Fenderson Junior Member Member since:Jul 2012	Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me has a UK release (horrible release if the Amazon.co.uk reviewers are trusted, but I thought you might want to include for completeness), and a Japanese release--any info on this Japanese version? I'd prefer to stay away from the Region B locked French one if possible. Also, I think you changed your shorthand for Germany at some point from DE to GE , such as in the Eraserhead listing. Also in that listing, you give JP video bitrate as 29.90 kbps and I think you meant Mbps. While on the subject, any idea if there's a picture difference here between German and Japanese? The Japanese packaging is more appealing to me, but it has the 16-bit audio vs. the DE 24-bit, so kinda on the fence with this one.