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Old 07-18-2012, 01:11 AM   #1181
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When you are undecided play some music and read your book.
I always put on some good music, nice and low, while I'm reading. I think I'll just do that tonight.

I do want to watch Batman Begins and The Dark Knight in the next couple of days, before going to see The Dark Knight Rises. I would like to go see it Friday, but with it being opening day, and all of the kids on summer break, I might just hold off until Monday morning to see it, if I can wait that long!
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:26 AM   #1182
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All Glory to The Hypnotoad.



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Old 07-18-2012, 01:32 AM   #1183
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All Glory to The Hypnotoad.



I'm alright.

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Old 07-18-2012, 01:41 AM   #1184
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That's true. Although my current brackets will only work on the Manual, VMAX 2 and Spectrum series and those are all 1:1 gain like the one i have now.

The most wise thing to do would properly be too wait a few years before doing the upgrade and then go as big as possible. Because as long as i stick too pulldown screens there's always gonna be a high possibility of horizontal lines in the canvas and it will never be as good as fixed frame screens anyway.

Im going 200" in my next apartment. lol
But if you go with a fixed frame, you won't be able to have your tv up front with your other equipment. You could get a tab tensioned screen. That should help stop the wrinkles.

200"?! When I first set up my HT room, I was projecting 126". Before I trimmed out my front wall, I backed off my pj to where I could get 130". Even that little 4" increase made a very noticeable difference, in a good way.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:52 AM   #1185
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But if you go with a fixed frame, you won't be able to have your tv up front with your other equipment. You could get a tab tensioned screen. That should help stop the wrinkles.

200"?! When I first set up my HT room, I was projecting 126". Before I trimmed out my front wall, I backed off my pj to where I could get 130". Even that little 4" increase made a very noticeable difference, in a good way.
I've had my eyes on this one for quite some time now.

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...mid=19&lang=en

I will only have room for a 84" then but no wringles and 1:0 gain available. Then i'll also have much better room for my speakers, right now they are taking up a little door space.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:06 AM   #1186
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After calculating the cinetension versus my current manual (<-weight bar cut off too save space) i've found that even going 84" with the former adds a little over an inch too the complete screen width. (2.8cm). Cutting something of the cinetension would not work as it's full of wires and that would defeat the whole purpose of going with a tabtension screen.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:25 AM   #1187
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Hmm. found it in stock in Germany.

http://www.beamer-discount.de/leinwa...cPath=7_8_1158

Although not exactly cheap at 986$. My 92" manual cost me just 1/6th of that if i remember correctly.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:32 AM   #1188
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That's actually a photoshopped Amazon horned frog, but it does look a lot like Hypnotoad.



http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...rned-frog.html


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I've had my eyes on this one for quite some time now.

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...mid=19&lang=en

I will only have room for a 84" then but no wringles and 1:0 gain available. Then i'll also have much better room for my speakers, right now they are taking up a little door space.
It looks nice. They have them up to 150". Why not get one of those. You could always just crawl under it to get through the doorway.

Have you seen the videos of Reference's HT setup? He has his tv in front of his screen on a fold-up bar/cable. If you did that, you could get a fixed screen.





http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....150711&page=53
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:39 AM   #1189
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That's actually a photoshopped Amazon horned frog, but it does look a lot like Hypnotoad.



http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...rned-frog.html




It looks nice. They have them up to 150". Why not get one of those. You could always just crawl under it to get through the doorway.

Have you seen the videos of Reference's HT setup? He has his tv in front of his screen on a fold-up bar/cable. If you did that, you could get a fixed screen.

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http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....150711&page=53
Haha yes if i wasn't limited on the right side i would go big and crawl under. I have a lot of junk behind my screen that would have too get moved but it surely could be done.

All that Ref. does is a bonus too the universe. That guy is pure win in my book.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:53 AM   #1190
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After calculating the cinetension versus my current manual (<-weight bar cut off too save space) i've found that even going 84" with the former adds a little over an inch too the complete screen width. (2.8cm). Cutting something of the cinetension would not work as it's full of wires and that would defeat the whole purpose of going with a tabtension screen.
Maybe taking off the weight bar is what made it wrinkle.

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Hmm. found it in stock in Germany.

http://www.beamer-discount.de/leinwa...cPath=7_8_1158

Although not exactly cheap at 986$. My 92" manual cost me just 1/6th of that if i remember correctly.
That one looks nice, but you could probably find something at a better price. You could always just buy six screens like the one you already have, and just switch them out when you get a wrinkle.

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Haha yes if i wasn't limited on the right side i would go big and crawl under. I have a lot of junk behind my screen that would have too get moved but it surely could be done.

All that Ref. does is a bonus too the universe. That guy is pure win in my book.
Yes, he has an awesome setup.

Me personally, I couldn't imagine ever going smaller, but with a smaller screen, you probably would get more lumens out of your pj, and improved contrast, which would be really nice, but at the cost of screen size. I've played around with my pj, and when I adjust it smaller, it does seem to have a little more "pop". It's your HT, you get whatever you like.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:00 AM   #1191
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Sorry Big J. It's 5 in the morning here and i need my beauty sleep. Im not a Duracell bunny you know.

I will reply too you when i get the chance. You have a good time.

See you buddy.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:03 AM   #1192
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Sorry Big J. It's 5 in the morning here and i need my beauty sleep. Im not a Duracell bunny you know.

I will reply too you when i get the chance. You have a good time.

See you buddy.
Have good night Big T.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:02 AM   #1193
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:52 PM   #1194
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Maybe taking off the weight bar is what made it wrinkle.



That one looks nice, but you could probably find something at a better price. You could always just buy six screens like the one you already have, and just switch them out when you get a wrinkle.



Yes, he has an awesome setup.

Me personally, I couldn't imagine ever going smaller, but with a smaller screen, you probably would get more lumens out of your pj, and improved contrast, which would be really nice, but at the cost of screen size. I've played around with my pj, and when I adjust it smaller, it does seem to have a little more "pop". It's your HT, you get whatever you like.
I've never really had any big problems with waves in the canvas or such things but my screen does suffer from some quite visible horizontal lines especially visible in the top were the sky and grand environments normally gets shown..not really visible in darker grey material and everything without overly bright colors. But still a little annoying if you know it's there.

I think it unlikely that the loss of the weight bar did this but could be since i only just started noticing it after i removed it. But it could also just be my eyes that has become more critical too how the picture should look.

I'll try looking at something better but maybe i'll just let it be. At least for a month or two since i have for nearly a year and a half only bought Hifi stuff and nothing else. I need a new vacuum cleaner, new clothes and such.

Im not sure if every projector handles contrast the way mine does but mine get the best contrast with the minimum zoom. Mine however is zoomed in almost at maximum. Making my projector contrast the weakest possible and also quite bright because of the short throw. The ND filter helps with the latter so that the light reflecting from screen too the white walls and back again doesn't smear the picture detail as much. Also lowers the contrast and brightness in the process. That gives you blacker blacks but not really any better contrast detail only the illusion of such. Not the same but similar too what one tries too achieve with a lower gain and/or grey screen.
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Dude!! Have a nice one Dude.
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