Lawrence of Arabia - November 13 Collector's Edition - Review - Page 22 - Blu-ray Forum

MifuneFan · 07-21-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahatma

Thought they did an 8K restoration of this...No matter,must be spectacular anyway.Just pray for the movie to be spread over 2 discs

They did an 8K scan of the negatives and then reduced them to 4K for digital remastering. From the info currently available, it'll be on a single disc.

pagemaster · 07-21-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bluskies

I was there, too, and I was going to write how impressed I was with it, but the above sums it up perfectly.

However, I can add the cover of the program they handed out, and from an inside page a description of the restoration...

Its amazing that they show classic movies in 4K digital in Hollywood. Up in Toronto, Canada they regularly show 70mm movies at the film festival theater, Lawrence of Arabia is one of the movies they usually show in 70mm, I have that the it is generally a flop at this theater and they have reduced the amount of 70mm they usually show.

Dubstar · 07-21-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

Its amazing that they show classic movies in 4K digital in Hollywood. Up in Toronto, Canada they regularly show 70mm movies at the film festival theater, Lawrence of Arabia is one of the movies they usually show in 70mm, I have that the it is generally a flop at this theater and they have reduced the amount of 70mm they usually show.

that's odd because the yearly screenings of 'Lawrence' at the AFI Silver in 70mm is always popular.

secondly why see a movie in DCP when the 70mm version will be superior in both resolution and audio - for the latter Sony really should have resurrected 8-channel SDDS for the theatrical release and/or utilized the five front mix that I mentioned before. From what I'm gather, the October theatrical release will ONLY be released in 2K/4K DCP form, no new 70mm prints will be culled, which is very unfortunate.

ShellOilJunior · 07-22-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahatma

Thought they did an 8K restoration of this...No matter,must be spectacular anyway.Just pray for the movie to be spread over 2 discs

I wouldn't worry about how many discs the film will be on. Some of the very best people in the industry are working on this release.

paper tiger · 07-23-2012, 02:05 PM

MifuneFan · 07-23-2012, 02:16 PM

Nighteyes · 07-23-2012, 03:04 PM

That looks like the French Limited Edition.

MifuneFan · 07-23-2012, 03:06 PM

The old one. It's since been changed

paper tiger · 07-23-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by paper tiger

I honestly like this a lot better than the other one. The original box art was great, however I don't like that the actual packaging is square, I rather have the usual rectangle, like this, so it looks right in-line with my other box sets.

PrivatePixel · 07-23-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by paper tiger

I honestly like this a lot better than the other one. The original box art was great, however I don't like that the actual packaging is square, I rather have the usual rectangle, like this, so it looks right in-line with my other box sets.

So would I. I'm all for innovative packaging, but I prefer consisteny with my classics.

ShellOilJunior · 07-24-2012, 05:30 PM

A movement needs to start where studios don't paste the Oscar accolades on the front cover. I know it's a source of pride for them but it's..........the Oscars

KubrickFan · 07-24-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

A movement needs to start where studios don't paste the Oscar accolades on the front cover. I know it's a source of pride for them but it's..........the Oscars

A studio not advertising the success of a movie on it's poster/cover/TV spot/whatever? That'll happen soon enough

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ShellOilJunior · 07-24-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan

A studio not advertising the success of a movie on it's poster/cover/TV spot/whatever? That'll happen soon enough

.

I think the boutique labels are the only ones that don't do it.

nametag · 07-24-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubstar

that's odd because the yearly screenings of 'Lawrence' at the AFI Silver in 70mm is always popular.

secondly why see a movie in DCP when the 70mm version will be superior in both resolution and audio - for the latter Sony really should have resurrected 8-channel SDDS for the theatrical release and/or utilized the five front mix that I mentioned before. From what I'm gather, the October theatrical release will ONLY be released in 2K/4K DCP form, no new 70mm prints will be culled, which is very unfortunate.

The resolution would be better technically, but isn't the whole point that they've done this big frame-by-frame digital restoration to fix lots of damage etc? Surely it'll look better than an old 70mm print for this reason?

metal134 · 07-25-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahatma

Thought they did an 8K restoration of this...No matter,must be spectacular anyway.Just pray for the movie to be spread over 2 discs

I doubly pray for it not to be. I never have and never will be convinced that 4 hours of film can't comfortably fit on a 50GB disc regardless of quality.

Pirate King · 07-25-2012, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by metal134

I doubly pray for it not to be. I never have and never will be convinced that 4 hours of film can't comfortably fit on a 50GB disc regardless of quality.

The Ten Commandments is split on two Blu-rays.
Disc one 42GB, Disc two 29GB. Total 71GB.

The Ten Commandments is stunning on Blu-ray... and it would not look as good if they crammed it all on one Blu-ray.

Ben-Hur Disc one 40GB, Disc two 20 GB. Total 62GB. The PQ and AQ are incredible. I guess it depends on how good you want your movies to look. I want the movies I purchase on Blu-ray to look as good as they possibly can.

rickah88 · 07-25-2012, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirate King

The Ten Commandments is split on two Blu-rays.
Disc one 42GB, Disc two 29GB. Total 71GB.

The Ten Commandments is stunning on Blu-ray... and it would not look as good if they crammed it all on one Blu-ray.

Ben-Hur Disc one 40GB, Disc two 20 GB. Total 62GB. The PQ and AQ are incredible. I guess it depends on how good you want your movies to look. I want the movies I purchase on Blu-ray to look as good as they possibly can.

Totally agree!
I thought the 4 discs had been broken down as:

Disc1: movie part.1
Disc2: movie part.2
Disc3: extras
Disc4: audio BD

metal134 · 07-25-2012, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirate King

The Ten Commandments is split on two Blu-rays.
Disc one 42GB, Disc two 29GB. Total 71GB.

The Ten Commandments is stunning on Blu-ray... and it would not look as good if they crammed it all on one Blu-ray.

Ben-Hur Disc one 40GB, Disc two 20 GB. Total 62GB. The PQ and AQ are incredible. I guess it depends on how good you want your movies to look. I want the movies I purchase on Blu-ray to look as good as they possibly can.

I know there are movies that are split into 2. I'm just not at all convinced in the slightest that it's even remotely necessary.

yojoeski · 07-25-2012, 02:24 AM

Lawrence of Arabia is one of those that's in my slippery area. My rule is generally that any film under 3.5 hours has no reason to be split. Anything over 4 hours has no reason to be crammed on one disc. 3.5-4 hours is that slippery area. Lawrence of Arabia is just under 4 hours with all its music cues included and given its aspect ratio, I see no reason this film needs to be split. It should be possible to do this without compromising the restoration quality.

In all fairness though, I do expect it to be split for the sole purpose of driving the price up. Extra disc means extra charge and having seen what The Digital Bits has listed for on-disc bonuses with this title, I see no reason to believe that all those extras won't be alone on the 3rd disc.

rickah88 · 07-25-2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by metal134

I know there are movies that are split into 2. I'm just not at all convinced in the slightest that it's even remotely necessary.

Go look up a TV show called The Invisible Man that recently came out on BD, and get back to me.

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07-23-2012, 02:16 PM	#426
MifuneFan Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City Blu-ray collection:192 Trading Score:8

07-23-2012, 03:04 PM	#427
Nighteyes Active Member Member since:Dec 2010	That looks like the French Limited Edition.

07-23-2012, 03:06 PM	#428
MifuneFan Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City Blu-ray collection:192 Trading Score:8	The old one. It's since been changed

07-25-2012, 02:24 AM	#439
yojoeski Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:486	Lawrence of Arabia is one of those that's in my slippery area. My rule is generally that any film under 3.5 hours has no reason to be split. Anything over 4 hours has no reason to be crammed on one disc. 3.5-4 hours is that slippery area. Lawrence of Arabia is just under 4 hours with all its music cues included and given its aspect ratio, I see no reason this film needs to be split. It should be possible to do this without compromising the restoration quality. In all fairness though, I do expect it to be split for the sole purpose of driving the price up. Extra disc means extra charge and having seen what The Digital Bits has listed for on-disc bonuses with this title, I see no reason to believe that all those extras won't be alone on the 3rd disc.