The Official Onkyo/Integra Owners Thread

[timcat4843]

Originally Posted by HAMP

I read the worst things about the Onkyo 805 about heat.

The owner of a 3008 displayed photos of a resistor glowing red hot.

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/img1543si.jpg/

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img1545k.jpg/

I am wondering how are you going to split your subs up?

All four subs are spread equally across the front wall.
Due to space limitations that's the only place that I can put them.
I believe thats the way most cineplexes array there subwoofers.

The SVS subs are in each corner and will be joined together by a Y-connector
to Sub1 on the back of the AVR.

The two BIC America subs sit closer to the center of the wall and will be
joined together by a Y-connector to Sub2 on the back of the AVR.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

The owner of a 3008 displayed photos of a resistor glowing red hot.

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/img1543si.jpg/

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img1545k.jpg/



All four subs are spread equally across the front wall.
Due to space limitations that's the only place that I can put them.
I believe thats the way most cineplexes array there subwoofers.

The SVS subs are in each corner and will be joined together by a Y-connector
to Sub1 on the back of the AVR.

The two BIC America subs sit closer to the center of the wall and will be
joined together by a Y-connector to Sub2 on the back of the AVR.

Wow, I don't think a fan is going to help that problem.... lol

I know your waiting for your wires to come in, but when they do, if you have time, run audyessy with all four subs, and then try it again with just the SVS's to see if you hear/feel a difference.

The Sub EQ is going to bring the SVS's down to the level of the Bic's to make everything equal. I am just wondering if the SVS's will shine better by themselves or if the BIC's will make everything better with the SVS's.

I really look forward to reading about it.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

The owner of a 3008 displayed photos of a resistor glowing red hot.

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/img1543si.jpg/

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img1545k.jpg/



All four subs are spread equally across the front wall.
Due to space limitations that's the only place that I can put them.
I believe thats the way most cineplexes array there subwoofers.

The SVS subs are in each corner and will be joined together by a Y-connector
to Sub1 on the back of the AVR.

The two BIC America subs sit closer to the center of the wall and will be
joined together by a Y-connector to Sub2 on the back of the AVR.

wow, my integra never gets hot.

[timcat4843]

Originally Posted by HAMP

I am just wondering if the SVS's will shine better by themselves or if the BIC's will make everything better with the SVS's.

I'll probably wind up just running the dual SVS PB12-NSD's.

[walmat]

Originally Posted by callas01

wow, my integra never gets hot.

Never heat issues with mine either.

[solarrdadd]

when i had an 805, yes, it did get hot and very hot for extended use. of course, i was lucky and had mine setting out in the open on all sides to air and was placed on a shelf just a couple inches off the floor.

but it was hot, no question about that. of course, it never failed me in any way!

of course that was mine.

[Goat1]

I have the 805 also and mine doesn't get hot either. Everybody runs their gear differently,but one guys hot is another guys warm. Even if it does run hot,does the thing fail? if not I wouldn't worry about it myself. I wonder if most people having heat issues have it inside a cabinet? Mine is on a stand on the bottom and I have zero heat issues..

[HHX]

My TX-NR3007 gets warm but i've never had a crazy excessive heat problem. I have a little fan on top of it and every now and then I turn it on just to make sure the receiver doesn't get too hot, but I've never had a problem. it's running my front 5 speakers (including 2 infinity towers and a pretty beefy def tech center).

[timcat4843]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

I was lucky and had mine setting out in the open on all sides to air and was placed on a shelf...

So my 3009 will be sitting on a shelf, open on all sides to the air,
so I won't need to add an external fan?

[sandman922]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

So my 3009 will be sitting on a shelf, open on all sides to the air,
so I won't need to add an external fan?

i have my 5008 on a shelf with no back or sides and ive never had a problem with it getting hot you should be fine .

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

So my 3009 will be sitting on a shelf, open on all sides to the air,
so I won't need to add an external fan?

i don't expect you will, but, you will know once you have it and get to using it, after sessions of movies and or games depending on the volumes, keep an eye on the machine checking the top with the back of your hands. that will let you know what you need to do.

some folks can have their receivers in cabinets that are enclosed and have no problems, ever. some have theirs sitting completely out in the open and it's hot to the touch. it just depends, it's not necessarily the same for everyone.

whatever the case, please keep us posted.

[Magicmonger]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

So my 3009 will be sitting on a shelf, open on all sides to the air,
so I won't need to add an external fan?

Not a bit...

[Goat1]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

So my 3009 will be sitting on a shelf, open on all sides to the air,
so I won't need to add an external fan?

No you won't need one. Too many people are paranoid.

[timcat4843]

Click here to see the floorplan of my HT room.
Notice where I placed my four subwoofers.
Any tips or suggestions before I run the 3009's full Audyssey calibration?

[walmat]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

Click here to see the floorplan of my HT room.
Notice where I placed my four subwoofers.
Any tips or suggestions before I run the 3009's full Audyssey calibration?

I would set levels for each sub individually for 75dB. Then play them together with Audyssey mic in position in which case Aud will measure over 75dB. I would leave the sub levels where they are and just run Aud. This is how I did it for my dual subs and I was pleased with the results. Good Luck

[timcat4843]

Originally Posted by walmat

I would set levels for each sub individually for 75dB. Then play them together with Audyssey mic in position in which case Aud will measure over 75dB.

Yesterday, when starting the full 8 position calibration, Audyssey suggested that I set the subs volume at 75db. So it cycled from 23db through 89db. What was I supposed to do? The closest it got to 75db during the cycle was 77db, so I entered that into the setup procedure, via the 3009's remote control. Then I proceded with the full calibration. Did I follow the correct procedure?

After the calibration, I noticed that Audyssey set the crossover on all my speakers to 40Hz. Should I change them to 80Hz? How do you manually change stuff after the calibration? Also Audyssey set the levels of my front subs at +1.5db and the rear subs at -10.5. WTF!?!? Should I lower the rear subs level? Or do the calibration all over again?

After the calibration, I watched some tv shows, music videos, a couple of music concerts and part of the The Bourne Ultimatum flick. Strangely, it all sounded great! With those weird calculations that Audyssey came up with, I would have thought otherwise.

[sandman922]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

Yesterday, when starting the full 8 position calibration, Audyssey suggested that I set the subs volume at 75db. So it cycled from 23db through 89db. What was I supposed to do? The closest it got to 75db during the cycle was 77db, so I entered that into the setup procedure, via the 3009's remote control. Then I proceded with the full calibration. Did I follow the correct procedure?

After the calibration, I noticed that Audyssey set the crossover on all my speakers to 40Hz. Should I change them to 80Hz? How do you manually change stuff after the calibration? Also Audyssey set the levels of my front subs at +1.5db and the rear subs at -10.5. WTF!?!? Should I lower the rear subs level? Or do the calibration all over again?

After the calibration, I watched some tv shows, music videos, a couple of music concerts and part of the The Bourne Ultimatum flick. Strangely, it all sounded great! With those weird calculations that Audyssey came up with, I would have thought otherwise.

from my experience the sub spl has a bit of lag wait till it hits its peak then adjust the gain on the back of the sub , then wait till it settles on a constant number and adjust again till you hit 75 dbs ,
your back sub is probably set to high so the receiver lowered the gain . and your x overs are fine you can adjust in set up menu if you want .

[timcat4843]

Originally Posted by sandman922

from my experience the sub spl has a bit of lag wait till it hits its peak then adjust the gain on the back of the sub , then wait till it settles on a constant number and adjust again till you hit 75 dbs ,
your back sub is probably set to high so the receiver lowered the gain . and your x overs are fine you can adjust in set up menu if you want .

Thanks! I'll give your suggestions a try.

[Remo]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

Yesterday, when starting the full 8 position calibration, Audyssey suggested that I set the subs volume at 75db. So it cycled from 23db through 89db. What was I supposed to do? The closest it got to 75db during the cycle was 77db, so I entered that into the setup procedure, via the 3009's remote control. Then I proceded with the full calibration. Did I follow the correct procedure?

After the calibration, I noticed that Audyssey set the crossover on all my speakers to 40Hz. Should I change them to 80Hz? How do you manually change stuff after the calibration? Also Audyssey set the levels of my front subs at +1.5db and the rear subs at -10.5. WTF!?!? Should I lower the rear subs level? Or do the calibration all over again?

After the calibration, I watched some tv shows, music videos, a couple of music concerts and part of the The Bourne Ultimatum flick. Strangely, it all sounded great! With those weird calculations that Audyssey came up with, I would have thought otherwise.

Not sure if your did this but, you should set each sub individually.

At the screen that shows the sub db level turn of all but one sub at a time.

With each individual sub turn up or down the sub gain on the sub amp until the screen shows 75db (as noted by sandman922 there is considerable lag time so wait for it settle) once complete with the first sub turn it off and repeat process for each sub individually. Once all subs are at 75db each turn them all on and continue with Audussey calibration.
Don't worry about the combined db reading with multiple subs as it will be more than 75db, for example with my two subs each set at 75db the combined is 81db.

I may be wrong as I am no expert but this works well for me.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

Yesterday, when starting the full 8 position calibration, Audyssey suggested that I set the subs volume at 75db. So it cycled from 23db through 89db. What was I supposed to do? The closest it got to 75db during the cycle was 77db, so I entered that into the setup procedure, via the 3009's remote control. Then I proceded with the full calibration. Did I follow the correct procedure?

After the calibration, I noticed that Audyssey set the crossover on all my speakers to 40Hz. Should I change them to 80Hz? How do you manually change stuff after the calibration? Also Audyssey set the levels of my front subs at +1.5db and the rear subs at -10.5. WTF!?!? Should I lower the rear subs level? Or do the calibration all over again?

After the calibration, I watched some tv shows, music videos, a couple of music concerts and part of the The Bourne Ultimatum flick. Strangely, it all sounded great! With those weird calculations that Audyssey came up with, I would have thought otherwise.

Going thru this process with 4 subs and 2 of them being of a different manufacture, is going to be tuff.

If you remember awhile ago I asked how are you going to split them.

(1) SVS’s up front being plugged into #1, while the BIC’s are rear and plugged into #2 on the AVR
(2) On the left side of the room, having a SVS share with a BIC, and plugged into #1, while the right side is setup the same, and plugged into #2
(3) Or, you can just calibrate your system with just the SVS’s, and then after audyessy is done, add the BIC’s, which is almost like the 2nd option, except you won’t calibrate the BIC’s with audyessy

Whichever method you run, it’s going to make a difference with how you setup with audyessy.

I like the 3rd option, that way, you are not bringing down the SVS’s levels, but adding to them with the Bic’s