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Old 03-30-2012, 05:43 AM   #1
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Question What Blu-ray Players do YouTube High-Def (720/1080P) streaming?

My Samsung BD-P1590 just bricked itslef and it's time to find another player. My main requirement is one that it can playback YouTube in HD. Do these exist? Please say yes!

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Old 08-07-2012, 02:35 AM   #2
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The OPPO BDP-93/95 supports YouTube video streaming at true 1080P quality



Plus other streaming information


I recently had a few email conversations with OPPO Digital Inc. and thought I would pass some useful information on.

On a Windows PC some YouTube videos are only available at 240P,360P, and 480P quality. On the higher quality YouTube videos a Windows PC allows one to stream YouTube videos at 1080P, 720P, 480P, 360P, and 240P. There is a quality selection option on the Windows PC that allows one to choose the resoultion quality of the streaming YouTube video. However, on all Blu-ray players including the OPPO BDP-93/95 the YouTube videos are streamed at the default resolution of the native source. According to OPPO Digital this means sometimes the YouTube video being sent is true 1080P quality while other times it might be 720P quality or lower. Also the OPPO BDP-93/95 will never display resolution and other onscreen information for Netflix, Pandora, Vudu, or YouTube since they have not been given permission to do this from the agreements they have with the streaming companies. So for example when streaming 480i/p content or 720P content the OPPO will upscale the image to 1080P when connected to a 1080P display, and no onscreen information is allowed to show the user what the native source resolution and codec is.

The amount of streaming services on the OPPO BDP-93/95 is the players greatest weakness when compared to other standalone Blu-ray players from Sony and Panasonic. The new Sony BDP-S790 offers 50 different streaming services. Even the Panasonic Blu-ray players offer much more streaming Internet services when compared to the OPPO BDP-93/95. Possible Amazon on Demand and USB keyboard support might be offered in the future on existing or future OPPO Blu-ray players but there is no guarantee this will every occur. Below you will find exact quotes from OPPO Digital INC. regarding these issues:

Click link for details on why the BDP-93 and BDP-95 might never offer 1080P Netflix with 5.1 surround sound

The following is Question number 1A asked to OPPO Digital:

1.On a Windows PC one has the ability to select 1080P or 720P resolution for HD YouTube videos. On the OPPO BDP-93 there is no option in the menu to play YouTube videos at 1080P, just the default HD option. It would be a nice feature to be able to select the 1080P option for YouTube videos, maybe a future firmware update to the OPPO BDP-93/95 could add 1080P YouTube.

The following is an email quote from OPPO customer service regarding question 1A:

“1. YouTube Leanback was not designed for this kind of function. YouTube Leanback was designed like a television channel where the content is streamed to you at the default resolution of the source and without any customization by the end-user. There is unfortunately no means of changing the resolution to suit your bandwidth or native television capabilities. This is a limitation of the program, and not the player.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc”

The following is Question number 1B asked to OPPO Digital:

So if YouTube is streamed to me at the native resolution could OPPO software engineers please do a firmware update that will tell OPPO users the resolution of the signal when the “info” button is pressed on the remote? Currently the OPPO BDP-93/95 is not able to show the resolution of the streaming video from any streaming source including Netflix, VUDU, YouTube, etc.

The following is an email quote from OPPO customer service regarding question 1B:

“The resolution of the stream is determined by the native resolution stored on the YouTube servers. The player can scale this up and down, but the input resolution is whatever Google supplies us. We can't force Google to always send 1080p, or 240p, as the customer's network connection demands.

The capabilities of the player are restricted by the application. All of these applications disable our OSD as they want their applications to be used in their environment only. For this reason we are not able to bring up any display information when streaming from Netflix, Pandora, VUDU or YouTube.

We have asked these companies for permission to display some level of information, but so far none have been willing to support us.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc”

The following is Question number 1C asked to OPPO Digital:

So if YouTube is sending 1080P for some videos then the OPPO BDP-93 will output 1080P YouTube using the existing firmware?

The following is an email quote from OPPO customer service regarding question 1C:

“That is correct.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.”

The following is Question number 2 asked to OPPO Digital:

2.Also on the Sony BDP-S790 a USB keyboard can be used for Internet streaming features like YouTube, etc. A firmware update to the OPPO BDP-93/95 to allow a USB keyboard would be a nice feature.

The following is an email quote from OPPO customer service regarding question 2:

“2. We have requested the engineers look into supporting USB keyboards through a future firmware release, but so far they have not been able to develop a driver for this product. We do not know if we will be able to add USB support for the current line of players

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.”

The following is Question number 3 asked to OPPO Digital:

3.On the Sony BDP-S790 it has a total of 50 streaming services which is much more then what the OPPO BDP-93/95 offers. Adding Amazon on demand would be a popular feature for OPPO BDP-93/95 owners. Also adding a local weather feature by zip code would be nice streaming feature.

The following is an email quote from OPPO customer service regarding question 3:

“3. Unfortunately Sony has more industry clout then we do, so they are able to get streaming partners that we are not able to. We have been trying to add additional streaming partners to our current players, including Amazon, but at this time none are willing to give us the additional support required to add their APKs to our players.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.”
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Most likely all other modern Blu-ray players that offer YouTube will also offer some YouTube videos at 1080P. Of course this would need to be verified. The problem is when the YouTube interface allows one to select HD YouTube videos on the Blu-ray player one is not able to tell if the video is native 720P or native 1080P by using the resoultion info features on any Blu-ray player. Of course 1080P does look much better then 720P and a trained eye can tell the difference even when the image is upscaled to 1080P.

Another issue is that many Blu-ray player brands only support Netflix at 720P with 2.0 stereo. The PS3 offers Netflix at 1080P and 5.1 surround sound. Some newer 2012 standalone Blu-ray players are also suppose to support Netflix 3.0 with 1080p and 5.1 surround sound.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=5985069&postcount=1390

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