The Dark Knight Rises (SPOILERS)

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Eny-

What I do find funny is that the above review points out many "plot holes"

I've yet to see a true plot hole in the movie.

Originally Posted by bluearth

But I disliked his take on Batman. I dont want to hear about superheros having torn ligaments or busted up bodies. I dont want to hear about real world consequences, because this isn't the real world. If it were none of the schemes from the villains have any chance of ever working so it's pointless to try and inject any high level of realism at any level into the movie.

As was said, many of that stuff comes from the comics. And the comics do need some "real world" stuff to be relatable.

Originally Posted by bluearth

Nolan made a mistake in connecting the movie to the occupy movement,

He didn't do any connection, therefore it wasn't a mistake.

Originally Posted by bluearth

Contrast that with the fight scenes in the Amazing Spiderman with it's amazing backdrops

[Show spoiler]a high school of all places

, choreography and scope.

Backdrops and scope? I'll have to disagree.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

I'd be one of those. Saw it today...weakest of all 3 movies.

Agreed ... I still liked it but nowhere near as good as the other two

[Eny-]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

What's this "everyone" stuff? There are tons of people here claiming the movie is overrated nonsense.

There's life outside of these forums. Check IMDB, Rotten, etc...

[Barbossa]

I thought it was the strongest of the three.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by Eny-

There's life outside of these forums. Check IMDB, Rotten, etc...

There is life outside the internet as well ... lol

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

There is life outside the internet as well ... lol

Yeah, everyone I know say it's the best out of the three, I'm the only one who thinks The Dark Knight is stronger than it in my friendship group.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Yeah, everyone I know say it's the best out of the three, I'm the only one who thinks The Dark Knight is stronger than it in my friendship group.

When I first saw TDK I thought begins was better ... after a few viewing I fell in love with TDK though ... but as of now I think rises is the weakest ... still a day one Bluray purchase ... and maybe ill change my mind one day ... just had too many obvious issues though ... (not that TDK had none)

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Eny-

There's life outside of these forums. Check IMDB, Rotten, etc...

And?

"Everyone" in all those places is on the same page?

The "everyone" bug is just a persecution complex. "I'm the one sane person in a world where EVERYONE feels the same about Thing X."

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Didn't the whole Occupy thing start in like the fall or winter of 2011? This story was done well before that. The Nolan's and Goyer have said that the parallels to Occupy were strictly coincidental.

Also, Bruce doesn't think Gotham doesn't need Batman. It's just not going to be Bruce.

Yeah, I don't don't remember the Occupy movement's goal to have society year itself apart before destroying it.

Besides, Occupy is mostly hippies. Don't think they'd fit in well with Bane's group.

[Foggy]

Don't get bogged down by bluearth's posts, he's clearly unbiased

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=193644

[darry]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Yeah, everyone I know say it's the best out of the three, I'm the only one who thinks The Dark Knight is stronger than it in my friendship group.

what's a friendship group?

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by darry

what's a friendship group?

People I'm friends with

[aequalszero]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

I'd be one of those. Saw it today...weakest of all 3 movies.

I agree. But "weakest" is a relative term - any one of these flicks wipes the floor with most entries in the superhero blockbuster club, if for nothing else than ambition alone. It's undeniable that they have aspirations beyond their genre.

Originally Posted by Roonan

I've yet to see a true plot hole in the movie.

I know what they're getting at, though. This is the first movie where the 'niggles' actually bothered me. The previous two are so strong that they transcend their little problems, this final entry has such a grand scale that it loses a little in the execution of its themes and lets a few questionable moments slip through.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by aequalszero

I agree. But "weakest" is a relative term - any one of these flicks wipes the floor with most entries in the superhero blockbuster club, if for nothing else than ambition alone. It's undeniable that they have aspirations beyond their genre.

I know what they're getting at, though. This is the first movie where the 'niggles' actually bothered me. The previous two are so strong that they transcend their little problems, this final entry has such a grand scale that it loses a little in the execution of its themes and lets a few questionable moments slip through.

this is exactly how i feel and a good interpretation i think for a lot of people who say its "over-rated" and the 3rd best in the series.

the problem is, there are SO many batman fanboys.....over 500 page thread for Batman lol? really to each their own....so, if someone says they didnt think it was that great...you have a gang of people who will defend it like its the greatest movie theyve ever seen... its Batman people...EVERY batman movie is getting 5 star ratings... really? either people have loose rating systems or they just love batman and comic book movies in general...but thats what a good portion of this site likes, so thats what the results will show

but, like you said above, these batman movies, imo, are above and beyond most of the current comic book movies out....still havent seen the avengers though...

i found myself rolling my eyes at a bunch of scenes in this movie, which is why it is the 3rd best imo....shallow story as well....but before everyone jumps all over me....i already said, i didnt think it was bad and it will be part of my collection

[Drewza89]

FINALLY went to see it (at a true IMAX venue). I went in with low expectations since so many people said it wasn't as good as the first two. Fortunately, TDKR far exceeded those expectations and I thought it was easily the best of the trilogy. It definitely packs an emotional punch. Loved all of the new characters (and I wouldn't mind seeing another sequel or a spinoff with Gordon-Levitt and Hathaway).

Batman Begins 4/5
The Dark Knight 3.5/5
The Dark Knight Rises 5/5

[Jumpman]

Took in my fifth and final viewing today before home video release, in IMAX, and it's astonishing to me that on fifth viewing, it got better than the last.

I'm actually flabbergasted by it. I fully expected to get antsy with the film considering how many times I've seen it already and how many times I'll see it in the future but again, once Batman appears, the film has me by the balls and never lets go. It gets bleak. It gets emotional. It gets triumphant. It raises the stakes to the appropriate levels. It hits all the right beats to make for not only a satisfying film on it's own, but a stunning conclusion to one of the great cinematic stories/trilogies of all time.

And after this final viewing, I can NOW safely say that Tom Hardy's performance as Bane equals Ledger's Joker, in my eyes. I felt it after the third viewing but wasn't willing to go there but this afternoon's viewing clinched it. Tom Hardy, for me, is easily 1b behind Ledger's Joker in terms of villains in this genre. He's that great in this film. Ownership from frame one. I'm going to be studying his performance, like Ledger's, for years. It's that nuanced. It's that powerful. It's world class.

BEGINS. KNIGHT. RISES. PERFECTION.

[darry]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Took in my fifth and final viewing today before home video release, in IMAX, and it's astonishing to me that on fifth viewing, it got better than the last.

I'm actually flabbergasted by it. I fully expected to get antsy with the film considering how many times I've seen it already and how many times I'll see it in the future but again, once Batman appears, the film has me by the balls and never lets go. It gets bleak. It gets emotional. It gets triumphant. It raises the stakes to the appropriate levels. It hits all the right beats to make for not only a satisfying film on it's own, but a stunning conclusion to one of the great cinematic stories/trilogies of all time.

And after this final viewing, I can NOW safely say that Tom Hardy's performance as Bane equals Ledger's Joker, in my eyes. I felt it after the third viewing but wasn't willing to go there but this afternoon's viewing clinched it. Tom Hardy, for me, is easily 1b behind Ledger's Joker in terms of villains in this genre. He's that great in this film. Ownership from frame one. I'm going to be studying his performance, like Ledger's, for years. It's that nuanced. It's that powerful. It's world class.

BEGINS. KNIGHT. RISES. PERFECTION.

It's just a movie, dude.

[MykeHavoc]

Yeah, there's very little I consider "perfection", but it's certainly strong.

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by darry

It's just a movie, dude.

Isn't that what we're here to discuss?

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by darry

It's just a movie, dude.

It's just his opinion, dude and a pretty accurate one at that.