Pioneer Kuro owners...

[gallino40]

oic thank you so much will try

[TheFactor]

Originally Posted by sarge1976

Here we go again

lol I was thinking the same thing

[Pondosinatra]

Wow. That was quick. Listing on eBay was sold almost as soon as it was posted:

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[Pondosinatra]

Ya I know it's an old thread....sue me.

So I'm moving to a new house and while I have my Kuro I also want to get a 60" plasma. Wondering what recommendations people would have for something of comparable picture quality.

As it stands right now I would probably go with a Panasonic.

[TheFactor]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Ya I know it's an old thread....sue me.

So I'm moving to a new house and while I have my Kuro I also want to get a 60" plasma. Wondering what recommendations people would have for something of comparable picture quality.

As it stands right now I would probably go with a Panasonic.

I'd go with a Panasonic or one of those Sharp Elites .

[oppopioneer]

Since the Pio Kuro's have been out for a few years now are there any reports from Kuro owners reporting anything negative about the tv with reliability problems, IR, burn in? I own a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD. I haven't been reading about electronics for over a year so I been out of the loop on electronics.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Since the Pio Kuro's have been out for a few years now are there any reports from Kuro owners reporting anything negative about the tv with reliability problems, IR, burn in? I own a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD. I haven't been reading about electronics for over a year so I been out of the loop on electronics.

Anything can break over the years even the best of the best electronics, however the 2008 Pioneer’s have been holding their black levels and overall picture quality for 4 years. Thomas J. Norton at Home Theater magazine has still been doing head to head picture comparisons using the Pioneer signature series PRO-141FD that was released in 2008. He has owned it since early 2009 and the black levels and picture quality are still the same along with the overall picture quality (I am not related to Thomas J. Norton, however I enjoy his many years of writing excellent Home Theater magazine reviews). In fact, no other consumer flat panel has been able to match the 2-D picture quality of the Pioneer yet. The family members I know in different areas of the USA are happy with their PRO-141FD and PRO-101FD.

It’s amazing how the 2008 Pioneers are still the best in 2D picture quality, and have been very reliable overall.

[HedgeHog]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Since the Pio Kuro's have been out for a few years now are there any reports from Kuro owners reporting anything negative about the tv with reliability problems, IR, burn in? I own a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD. I haven't been reading about electronics for over a year so I been out of the loop on electronics.

The quality on mine is still very good but, lately, I'm seeing some burn in. When the screen black (like during HDMI handshaking), I can see the same blotches but it's not noticeable when there are content on screen.

And it is definitely contributing to global warming...

Cheers,
-H

[Midnight Rambler]

Originally Posted by HedgeHog

The quality on mine is still very good but, lately, I'm seeing some burn in. When the screen black (like during HDMI handshaking), I can see the same blotches but it's not noticeable when there are content on screen.

And it is definitely contributing to global warming...

Cheers,
-H

Have you tried running one of the break-in DVD's (from AVS, etc.) to get rid of the IR ?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

Since the Pio Kuro's have been out for a few years now are there any reports from Kuro owners reporting anything negative about the tv with reliability problems, IR, burn in? I own a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD. I haven't been reading about electronics for over a year so I been out of the loop on electronics.

To add what HDTV1080p said; everything is still in top shape on my 151. I got it in 2009. No burn in or anything. I don't even worry about burn in since the kuros are the best, or one of the best, at not getting it.

2D PQ is still reference. The display still amazes me when i turn it on. The depth of the picture is really something else.

[oppopioneer]

I have been very lucky and fortunate that I have no IR or burn in. I watch 95% of the time full image material where the entire screen in full. I rarely watch letterbox movies and if I do then after the movie I leave the tv on full screen content for a while. Before I turn off the tv for the day or night I make sure I run full screen content to wash out any IR or ghosts from any network symbols or scrolls from news networks. ESPN is the worse, it's got constant 24/7 scroll at the bottom of the screen.

[HDTV1080P]

I use orbiter mode 2 with DOT for DOT settings and the family members that I know in different parts of the country on 6 different PRO-141FD’s and PRO-101FD’s have not seen any burn in issues. Orbiter mode 2 is the best for screen protection since it works with DOT for DOT mode.

[punisher]

My 111 is still looking like a work of art that only gets better and more appreciated over time.

[oppopioneer]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

I use orbiter mode 2 with DOT for DOT settings and the family members that I know in different parts of the country on 6 different PRO-141FD’s and PRO-101FD’s have not seen any burn in issues. Orbiter mode 2 is the best for screen protection since it works with DOT for DOT mode.

hmmm that's interesting. Do you have any links/sources to electronic websites that say orbiter 2 is good for dot mode? I remember reading at CNET and Home Theater Mag that dot by dot works best when all the safety features are turned off. When I'm not watching bluray I turn on all the safety features and set the screen to Auto. Dot by dot is for 1080p. I would not use dot by dot for regular tv watching in 720p, 1080i.

[Pondosinatra]

Any recommendations for a wall mount for my 5020?

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by oppopioneer

hmmm that's interesting. Do you have any links/sources to electronic websites that say orbiter 2 is good for dot mode? I remember reading at CNET and Home Theater Mag that dot by dot works best when all the safety features are turned off. When I'm not watching bluray I turn on all the safety features and set the screen to Auto. Dot by dot is for 1080p. I would not use dot by dot for regular tv watching in 720p, 1080i.

You do not need a link, the Pioneer owners manual says Orbiter mode 1 does not work when in Dot by Dot mode however the more aggressive orbiter mode 2 works with Dot by Dot mode. The Pioneer displays only go in Dot by Dot mode when watching a 1080i or 1080P native source material to match the displays native 1920 X 1080P. The Pioneer automatically switches out of Dot by Dot mode for 480i, 480P, and 720P source material.

Also I do not use any power saving modes since the power saving modes reduces the picture quality of the display according to the Home Theater magazine reviews.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Any recommendations for a wall mount for my 5020?

The one mentioned in the owners manual would be ideal to use.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

The one mentioned in the owners manual would be ideal to use.

I'll have to look for the manual.....didn't think whatever was available back when it was released would still be around today.

[oppopioneer]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

You do not need a link, the Pioneer owners manual says Orbiter mode 1 does not work when in Dot by Dot mode however the more aggressive orbiter mode 2 works with Dot by Dot mode. The Pioneer displays only go in Dot by Dot mode when watching a 1080i or 1080P native source material to match the displays native 1920 X 1080P. The Pioneer automatically switches out of Dot by Dot mode for 480i, 480P, and 720P source material.

Also I do not use any power saving modes since the power saving modes reduces the picture quality of the display according to the Home Theater magazine reviews.

I'm watching a movie on Comcast HD tv now in 1080i and the screen size is at "Auto". I could switch it to Dot-by-dot or Wide or Zoom. CNET said that Dot-by-dot does not like when the safety features are activated in the menu setup where Auto Size and Side Mask options are turned on. Auto Size and Side Mask should be turned off for Dot-by-dot for it to work best. But I want to leave them on for safety purposes to prevent IR burn in and ghosts.

[HDTV1080P]

The only safety feature I am using is Orbiter mode 2 and when watching 480i 4:3 SD content the gray bars on the side are activated. Some of my family members I know watch Fox News or another HD broadcast for several hours during the day and Orbiter mode 2 works good for preventing burn in of the network logos.