The Amazing Spider-man (2012) vs Spider-man (2002) - Blu-ray Forum

srinivas1015 · 11-19-2012, 05:40 PM

Which do you think is better? Pros and cons of each?
A comparison between TAS and Raimi's first movie only, not the trilogy. It's more fair that way.

I'll be watching TAS tomorrow, so I'll give my opinion then.

Galactus · 11-19-2012, 05:56 PM

I am going with The Amazing Spider-man because I didn't like the look of Green Goblin and I wanted a spiderman movie with more science and less boohoo BS.

BladeRunner2007 · 11-19-2012, 06:02 PM

I prefer Raimi's Spider-Man.

Wally Q · 11-19-2012, 06:11 PM

Raimi's Spider-Man has split personalities. First hour is fantastic and then goes straight into the gutter in the second hour.

The Amazing Spider-Man is the movie I envisioned whenever I thought of a Spider-Man movie as a kid.

csdot · 11-19-2012, 06:26 PM

defnitely Raimi's. TASM was pretty bland and essentially the exact same movie with a different villain.

legendarymatt92 · 11-19-2012, 06:28 PM

Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man is pretty much a remake of Raimi's Spiderman anyway - it really isn't that different thematically, tonally or narratively.

I really enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, but Raimi's trilogy really set the tone for it.

CZAR · 11-19-2012, 06:32 PM

I prefer The Amazing Spider-Man because its just an overall better film and better executed. A bigger reason is because I cant stand Tobe Maguire! Got Em!!

JavaJulien · 11-19-2012, 06:42 PM

Spider-Man 1 had a slightly better villain (DaFoe went over the top just the same) a stronger supporting cast, and score.

Amazing had the superior lead, a better story, the better LI, and the fight scenes actually felt like Spider-Man.

When it comes down to it though, for me, the first movie just hasn't aged that great. I think Spider-Man 2 is standing the test of time, but the acting and dialogue in the first film is really wooden. I'm giving this comparison to Amazing.

Kevin Holly · 11-19-2012, 06:45 PM

Amazing.

The old trilogy was incompetent.

Blu-Benny · 11-19-2012, 06:50 PM

The Amazing Spider-Man

Spider-Man looks to "comic-booky" to me. almost to cartoony.

i still like the original movie though.

mike79 · 11-19-2012, 06:51 PM

I really like both, however I like the reboot better for several reasons. First, Spider-man is supposed to make jokes, that did not really happen much in the original. Peter becomes a whole other person when he puts on the mask. The Amazing Spider-man at least attempted to portray this better, did not always hit the mark though. I just feel they both have pro's and con's, just think Amazing had less cons, Tobey was too whiney a lot, too much crying, and I did not like Dunst as MJ at all. MJ in the comics is confident, a supermodel, and none of that was portrayed at all in Raimi's movie, hopefully in the reboot, they will get these characteristics better. Overall I liked them both, and feel they could be looked at how there are several versions of the comics, Ultimate Universe, Regular Universe, so it does not bother me that they rebooted so close after Spider-man 3, I would have liked to see where they went with the fourth, however it seems, they were really just doing for the sake of doing it, and it might not have had much passion and the film could have suffered for it. The decisions they made in 3, such as Harry dying, Venom dying, I think would have impacted the series as well and made it harder to continue. Hopefully they can right these wrongs with the new trilogy. Either way as a fan of spider-man, I am just happy to have more movies as long as they are as good as the previous bunch.

dallywhitty · 11-19-2012, 07:05 PM

Although I liked The Amazing Spider-Man, I much prefer Raimi's films. The villain's better, the music is significantly better and it simply feels like a more cohesive and entertaining film. I found the first half of the reboot rather choppy and bland. For example, comparing the scenes of Peter getting bitten - in the 2002 film, it felt like a significant moment. In the reboot, it seemed to be a simple case of, 'Oops, I've just been bitten by a spider. Best act natural so Gwen Stacy doesn't think I'm an uber geek, lololololol.'

Wally Q · 11-19-2012, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZAR

I prefer The Amazing Spider-Man because its just an overall better film and better executed. A bigger reason is because I cant stand Tobe Maguire! Got Em!!

CZAR · 11-19-2012, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally Q

What?

Got Em!!

Wally Q · 11-19-2012, 07:38 PM

Nothing, we just agreed...

CZAR · 11-19-2012, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally Q

Nothing, we just agreed...

Awe man Im sure there are other things we would agree on. Just because we feel differently about Denzel/DDL doesnt mean we wont agree on other things. If we agreed on everything then the world would be a boring place, kinda like DDL movies hahahahah. Sorry but I had to. Got Em!!

supersix4 · 11-19-2012, 07:42 PM

I loved Amazing, I think had Goblin been with this kid over Toby it would have been even better... He just does the spider-man shitck so well, I feel like I'm watching a better animated series. I can't wait for the next one even if the villian sucks again.

CYMBOL · 11-19-2012, 08:51 PM

Amazing just feels bigger in scope. Peter's world is bigger, with a shadowy underworld of villians only hinted at in the first one.

Better:

Mechanical webbing.
Gwen Stacy of MJ
Captain Stacy story
I liked the New Yorkers helping hurt Spidey get to the villian over the New Yorkers throwing trash at the Goblin.
Peter's humor.
Flash Thompson's scenes more like most comics.
No sillyness like robbers dressed like robbers from old comic books, etc.
Awesome fight sequences that rivaled Spiderman 2 scenes.
Effects of Spiderman swinging through the city was much, much better.
Peter's evolution to becoming Spiderman. I like that it took longer (the end of the movie), for him to really come to terms with changing the reason he puts on the suit - going from everything based on revenge to wanting to be something positive.

Same:
Lizard/Goblin - both a bit lame (Goblin just came off as campy).

I like Sam Raimi's version. Spiderman 2 is pretty awesome. But to me, even though much of it was a re-hash storywise - The Amazing Spiderman just hit more of the right notes all the way around. Looking forward to seeing the story expand in part 2.

kpkelley · 11-19-2012, 09:00 PM

The Amazing Spider-Man for the following reasons:

Emma Stone>Kirsten Dunst
Parker doesn't have webs shooting out of his skin

The first film does bring up a rather interesting quesiton....Spider-man vs. werewolf

[Show spoiler]

:

Beast · 11-19-2012, 09:37 PM

Amazing Spider-Man really makes you realize how unsatisfying Raimi's Spider-Man is.

We finally got a lithe acrobatic Spider-Man who's capable of quipping and bantering. Plus he's actually likeable.

And we finally got The Lizard after 3 movies teasing us about him. And no Mighty Morphin' Goblin Ranger.

Only pluses to Raimi's Spider-Man at this point is J. Jonah Jameson. Which is no huge loss given the weakness of the film.

View Poll Results: Amazing Spider-man(2012) or Raimi's first Spider-man movie(2002)?
The Amazing Spider-man (2012)	100	60.24%
Sam Raimi's Spider-man (2002) (Just the first one, not the trilogy)	67	40.36%
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11-19-2012, 05:40 PM	#1
srinivas1015 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2010 Location:India Home Theater Gallery:64 Blu-ray collection:332 DVD collection:118 PS3 collection:18 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:1	The Amazing Spider-man (2012) vs Spider-man (2002) Which do you think is better? Pros and cons of each? A comparison between TAS and Raimi's first movie only, not the trilogy. It's more fair that way. I'll be watching TAS tomorrow, so I'll give my opinion then. LG 55 Inch LM6700 Passive 3D TV Sony 5.1 HTIB, Sony 32 Inch LCD TV Optoma HD67 Active 3D Projector With 160 Inch Screen Nvidia 3D Vision 7.1 Polk Audio System (6 Towers) Onkyo HT-Rc270 receiver HTPC, PS3, Xbox 360 List Of Films Based On Graphic Novels

11-19-2012, 06:11 PM	#4
Wally Q Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2011 Location:12771 Blu-ray collection:1000 DVD collection:112 PS3 collection:8 Trading Score:1	Raimi's Spider-Man has split personalities. First hour is fantastic and then goes straight into the gutter in the second hour. The Amazing Spider-Man is the movie I envisioned whenever I thought of a Spider-Man movie as a kid. DVD Aficionado - quickdraw_ltd's DVD Collection Bedroom Theater Panasonic VIERA TC-L42E3 42-Inch Sony PlayStation 3 160GB VIZIO VSB200

11-19-2012, 06:26 PM	#5
csdot Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Interzone Blu-ray collection:918 DVD collection:93	defnitely Raimi's. TASM was pretty bland and essentially the exact same movie with a different villain. Letterboxd tumblr Instagram

11-19-2012, 06:28 PM	#6
legendarymatt92 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2012 Location:United Kingdom Blu-ray collection:396 DVD collection:13 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man is pretty much a remake of Raimi's Spiderman anyway - it really isn't that different thematically, tonally or narratively. I really enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, but Raimi's trilogy really set the tone for it. "The secret to film is that it's all an illusion..." Pre-orders: The Wicker Man Steel, Star Trek XI Zavvi Steel, 12 Angry Men, Raising Arizona, La Notte, The Sand Pebbles, Patton, The Great Escape, The Murderer Lives at 21, Les Miserables Digibook, One Hour Photo, Brides of Dracula, Evil of Frankenstein, Blow Out and The Last Temptation of Christ.

11-19-2012, 05:56 PM	#2
Galactus Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Pillars of Creation Blu-ray collection:60 PS3 collection:29 Trading Score:29	I am going with The Amazing Spider-man because I didn't like the look of Green Goblin and I wanted a spiderman movie with more science and less boohoo BS.

11-19-2012, 06:02 PM	#3
BladeRunner2007 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Germany Blu-ray collection:265 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	I prefer Raimi's Spider-Man.

11-19-2012, 06:32 PM	#7
CZAR Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Bay Area, Cali Blu-ray collection:73 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	I prefer The Amazing Spider-Man because its just an overall better film and better executed. A bigger reason is because I cant stand Tobe Maguire! Got Em!! Top "9" Blu-Ray Wishlist - A Bronx Tale (1993) - Can't Buy Me Love (1987) - The Five Heartbeats (1991) - The Temptations (1998) - Cooley High (1975) - Friday the 13th (Parts IV-X) - Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984) - Phantasm (Franchise) - Accepted (2006)

11-19-2012, 06:42 PM	#8
JavaJulien Power Member Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Tampa, FL Blu-ray collection:83 PS3 collection:23 Trading Score:1	Spider-Man 1 had a slightly better villain (DaFoe went over the top just the same) a stronger supporting cast, and score. Amazing had the superior lead, a better story, the better LI, and the fight scenes actually felt like Spider-Man. When it comes down to it though, for me, the first movie just hasn't aged that great. I think Spider-Man 2 is standing the test of time, but the acting and dialogue in the first film is really wooden. I'm giving this comparison to Amazing. "If my answers frighten you Vincent, then you should cease asking scary questions." - Jules Winnfield My Letterboxd Account

11-19-2012, 06:45 PM	#9
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11-19-2012, 06:50 PM	#10
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11-19-2012, 06:51 PM	#11
mike79 Expert Member Member since:May 2007 Location:nj Blu-ray collection:268 PS3 collection:18 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I really like both, however I like the reboot better for several reasons. First, Spider-man is supposed to make jokes, that did not really happen much in the original. Peter becomes a whole other person when he puts on the mask. The Amazing Spider-man at least attempted to portray this better, did not always hit the mark though. I just feel they both have pro's and con's, just think Amazing had less cons, Tobey was too whiney a lot, too much crying, and I did not like Dunst as MJ at all. MJ in the comics is confident, a supermodel, and none of that was portrayed at all in Raimi's movie, hopefully in the reboot, they will get these characteristics better. Overall I liked them both, and feel they could be looked at how there are several versions of the comics, Ultimate Universe, Regular Universe, so it does not bother me that they rebooted so close after Spider-man 3, I would have liked to see where they went with the fourth, however it seems, they were really just doing for the sake of doing it, and it might not have had much passion and the film could have suffered for it. The decisions they made in 3, such as Harry dying, Venom dying, I think would have impacted the series as well and made it harder to continue. Hopefully they can right these wrongs with the new trilogy. Either way as a fan of spider-man, I am just happy to have more movies as long as they are as good as the previous bunch. PSN: mike346256 Last edited by mike79; 11-19-2012 at 07:32 PM.

11-19-2012, 07:05 PM	#12
dallywhitty Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Shropshire, UK Blu-ray collection:270 DVD collection:252 PS3 collection:25 PS3 reviews:1	Although I liked The Amazing Spider-Man, I much prefer Raimi's films. The villain's better, the music is significantly better and it simply feels like a more cohesive and entertaining film. I found the first half of the reboot rather choppy and bland. For example, comparing the scenes of Peter getting bitten - in the 2002 film, it felt like a significant moment. In the reboot, it seemed to be a simple case of, 'Oops, I've just been bitten by a spider. Best act natural so Gwen Stacy doesn't think I'm an uber geek, lololololol.' UK BLU-RAY WISHLIST: Altered States - American Psycho - Assault on Precinct 13 ('76) - Boys Don't Cry - The Cable Guy - The Devils - Electric Dreams - Freaks Fright Night ('85) - Hausu - Heathers - Hellbound: Hellraiser II - The Hills Have Eyes ('77) - The Keep - King Kong ('33) - The Last House on the Left ('72) A Matter of Life and Death - Nightbreed - The Room - Scum - Secretary - Serial Mom - Showgirls - Star Wars Unaltered Trilogy ('77-'83) - Tommy - Troll 2

11-19-2012, 07:38 PM	#15
Wally Q Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2011 Location:12771 Blu-ray collection:1000 DVD collection:112 PS3 collection:8 Trading Score:1	Nothing, we just agreed... DVD Aficionado - quickdraw_ltd's DVD Collection Bedroom Theater Panasonic VIERA TC-L42E3 42-Inch Sony PlayStation 3 160GB VIZIO VSB200

11-19-2012, 07:42 PM	#17
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:570 PS3 collection:77 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Hardware reviews:1 Trading Score:2	I loved Amazing, I think had Goblin been with this kid over Toby it would have been even better... He just does the spider-man shitck so well, I feel like I'm watching a better animated series. I can't wait for the next one even if the villian sucks again. Because it's easier to have courage from a safe distance away.

11-19-2012, 08:51 PM	#18
CYMBOL Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Location:I move around a lot. Blu-ray collection:8 PS3 collection:1	Amazing just feels bigger in scope. Peter's world is bigger, with a shadowy underworld of villians only hinted at in the first one. Better: Mechanical webbing. Gwen Stacy of MJ Captain Stacy story I liked the New Yorkers helping hurt Spidey get to the villian over the New Yorkers throwing trash at the Goblin. Peter's humor. Flash Thompson's scenes more like most comics. No sillyness like robbers dressed like robbers from old comic books, etc. Awesome fight sequences that rivaled Spiderman 2 scenes. Effects of Spiderman swinging through the city was much, much better. Peter's evolution to becoming Spiderman. I like that it took longer (the end of the movie), for him to really come to terms with changing the reason he puts on the suit - going from everything based on revenge to wanting to be something positive. Same: Lizard/Goblin - both a bit lame (Goblin just came off as campy). I like Sam Raimi's version. Spiderman 2 is pretty awesome. But to me, even though much of it was a re-hash storywise - The Amazing Spiderman just hit more of the right notes all the way around. Looking forward to seeing the story expand in part 2. PS3, 250 gig slim, 65" DLP Mitsubishi - 1080p, Onkyo 706: PSN ID - CYMBOL MY LBP LEVELS - http://lbp.me/u/CYMBOL/levels First half of my LBP2 level: *Jumper.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-o_aXG56s Little Big Costume Effect* - http://www.youtube.com/user/MrMemodr.../7/WVNHsTiQKcE My ModNation Tracks - http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-gam...ml#post3336994

11-19-2012, 09:00 PM	#19
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA Blu-ray collection:1133 PS3 collection:17 Blu-ray reviews: 146	The Amazing Spider-Man for the following reasons: Emma Stone>Kirsten Dunst Parker doesn't have webs shooting out of his skin The first film does bring up a rather interesting quesiton....Spider-man vs. werewolf [Show spoiler] : Pioneer Elite KURO PRO-1150HD Sony PS3 640GB Oppo BDP-83

11-19-2012, 09:37 PM	#20
Beast Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:354 Blu-ray reviews:3	Amazing Spider-Man really makes you realize how unsatisfying Raimi's Spider-Man is. We finally got a lithe acrobatic Spider-Man who's capable of quipping and bantering. Plus he's actually likeable. And we finally got The Lizard after 3 movies teasing us about him. And no Mighty Morphin' Goblin Ranger. Only pluses to Raimi's Spider-Man at this point is J. Jonah Jameson. Which is no huge loss given the weakness of the film. Bat-Mite: "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but is certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots then the tortured avenger, crying out for mommy and daddy." Batman: The Brave & The Bold - Legend of the Dark Mite.

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