The Official Emotiva Q&A thread

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by bigred7078

Busy lol. New dog, house projects, busy season at work, etc. I tend to lurk on the forums these days

Hope all has been well with everyone.

good to hear (lurking ) things have been going good for me. work is good, home is good, i got some new gear and life is looking great going into the holiday seasons.

[ZIPPO]

Emotiva UMC-200
http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/...roducts/umc200

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Outlaw Model 975
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/p...-model-975-pre
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/975.html
http://pdf.outlawaudio.com/outlaw/do..._OM_Spread.pdf

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[solarrdadd]

the outlaw is prettier than the emotiva, however, the emotiva also includes 7.1 input, XLR sub out for long cable runs so it wins out for being more versatile.

the most interesting thing to me is that neither of them offer network support and that's something that the most entry level of receivers offer today. i think in that respect, they have both let us down there.

with the proliferation of internet radio, a pc, a NAS, ease of device updates via the network they are both getting an F for not supporting those things.

that is one thing i won't give up is my music streaming via a network and updating my processor from the internet via networking.

the do both look nice though, so, that's something. but, i've already got emo amps and DAC's so again, emo wins.

[Artie]

figured id ask what one more time since I have some money burning a hole in my pocket and the sale going on. my set is as follows Klipsch Icon KF-28 towers , Klipsch Icon KC-25 center, Klipsch Icon KS-14.

is it worth adding any emotiva amp to go along with my onkyo 709 or spend the $ on something different

[tang7969]

Originally Posted by Artie

figured id ask what one more time since I have some money burning a hole in my pocket and the sale going on. my set is as follows Klipsch Icon KF-28 towers , Klipsch Icon KC-25 center, Klipsch Icon KS-14.

is it worth adding any emotiva amp to go along with my onkyo 709 or spend the $ on something different

I would not get an amp since your towers are very sensitive and you pretty much can drive them with any avr. Maybe upgrade your sub ?? I'm not sure what you have for a sub.

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Artie

figured id ask what one more time since I have some money burning a hole in my pocket and the sale going on. my set is as follows Klipsch Icon KF-28 towers , Klipsch Icon KC-25 center, Klipsch Icon KS-14.

is it worth adding any emotiva amp to go along with my onkyo 709 or spend the $ on something different

I agree with tang. The Klipsch are very efficient speakers and that 709 should drive them easily. IMO, if you have money to spend and want some kind of audio improvement, look into bass traps and wall treatments. This will give you your biggest return on your investment for improved audio.

[Artie]

thanks for the responses guys, much appreciated

[Rustolem]

Originally Posted by tang7969

I would not get an amp since your towers are very sensitive and you pretty much can drive them with any avr. Maybe upgrade your sub ?? I'm not sure what you have for a sub.

SUB SUB SUB, my best money spent on my HT so far has been for my HSU
VTF-3 MK4 sub. I have had subs that were part of the "HT package" like Polk and Sony but none of them could hold a candle to my HSU, it has more than anything changed the quality of my all around sound.

[jlafrenz]

Originally Posted by Artie

figured id ask what one more time since I have some money burning a hole in my pocket and the sale going on. my set is as follows Klipsch Icon KF-28 towers , Klipsch Icon KC-25 center, Klipsch Icon KS-14.

is it worth adding any emotiva amp to go along with my onkyo 709 or spend the $ on something different

I'm going to say YES to an amp. It isn't because the the Onkyo won't drive the Klipsch, it certainly will. To me, Onkyo's are a bit thin sounding. I think an amp would provide you a more robust and neutral sound as compared to the Onkyo and would pair well with the Klipsch. If you decide not to get an amp, I would second the acoustic treatments. They are quite necessary and can make a substantial difference.

[sandman922]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

the outlaw is prettier than the emotiva, however, the emotiva also includes 7.1 input, XLR sub out for long cable runs so it wins out for being more versatile.

the most interesting thing to me is that neither of them offer network support and that's something that the most entry level of receivers offer today. i think in that respect, they have both let us down there.

with the proliferation of internet radio, a pc, a NAS, ease of device updates via the network they are both getting an F for not supporting those things.

that is one thing i won't give up is my music streaming via a network and updating my processor from the internet via networking.

the do both look nice though, so, that's something. but, i've already got emo amps and DAC's so again, emo wins.

oppo players stream internet radio and they work great with emo gear

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by sandman922

oppo players stream internet radio and they work great with emo gear

i'm sure it does, (since i have a couple of them) but, we were talking about the two Pre-Amps that Zippo posted, not about blu-ray players.

[sandman922]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

i'm sure it does, (since i have a couple of them) but, we were talking about the two Pre-Amps that Zippo posted, not about blu-ray players.

i know your talking about pre amps, my point was there are other pieces of equipment that stream internet radio so they would work with the pre pros he was talking about , sorry if i was unclear . they both look very nice . and ive heard the umc200 it sounds fantastic !

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by sandman922

i know your talking about pre amps, my point was there are other pieces of equipment that stream internet radio so they would work with the pre pros he was talking about , sorry if i was unclear . they both look very nice . and ive heard the umc200 it sounds fantastic !

oh, i understand. also very important is why no ethernet for internet firmware updates? again, the onkyo receiver in my bedroom, cost under $300, i did a firmware update a couple of weeks ago to resolve an issue. i know that it's not easy for some of the folks who have the UMC-1 with the installing it and getting things right, it would be so much easier if it just downloaded directly into the pre-amp.

also, there aren't too many pre-amps or receivers that don't have ethernet (or wi-fi) built into them. not everyone has an oppo or other means to stream hi-rez audio, not just internet audio, audio up to 192/24 streaming capabilities. and for the DAC that's built into the UMC-1 and this UMC-200 you would think that something like that would be an important sales point and another way to get entry level or other audiophiles wanting it with an easy way to get that lossless audio streamed at the head end.

the difference in their other DAC's or anything that they make is there is nothing to control, see, select the music from it's storage area---you could do that from the pre-amp via ethernet and without all the hassels associated with USB from a pc. you could stream 192/24 without the USB problems, the same way you can with an oppo93 or above, no problems (although, the oppo is pretty slow and doesn't have the best interface for streaming) ethernet or wi-fi would also give the opportunity for iOS & Android device control, something that lots of us love too. future thinking is what i'm getting at, options.

but, your point is well taken.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by sandman922

i know your talking about pre amps, my point was there are other pieces of equipment that stream internet radio so they would work with the pre pros he was talking about , sorry if i was unclear . they both look very nice . and ive heard the umc200 it sounds fantastic !

they had a demo of it at emofest, and your right, it sounded great!

[sandman922]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

they had a demo of it at emofest, and your right, it sounded great!

the umc200 does stream from blu tooth wich is cool , but i get your point about up to date technology, but im a sucker for sound quality so if there's a few less gadgets but better sound quality ill take the sound quality . but in a perfect world both would be nice.

[sandman922]

hey sollarr dad hopefully next year i can go to emo fest and have a beer with you! i heard the umc200 at audioholics gtg.

[ZIPPO]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

oh, i understand. also very important is why no ethernet for internet firmware updates? again, the onkyo receiver in my bedroom, cost under $300, i did a firmware update a couple of weeks ago to resolve an issue. i know that it's not easy for some of the folks who have the UMC-1 with the installing it and getting things right, it would be so much easier if it just downloaded directly into the pre-amp.

also, there aren't too many pre-amps or receivers that don't have ethernet (or wi-fi) built into them. not everyone has an oppo or other means to stream hi-rez audio, not just internet audio, audio up to 192/24 streaming capabilities. and for the DAC that's built into the UMC-1 and this UMC-200 you would think that something like that would be an important sales point and another way to get entry level or other audiophiles wanting it with an easy way to get that lossless audio streamed at the head end.

the difference in their other DAC's or anything that they make is there is nothing to control, see, select the music from it's storage area---you could do that from the pre-amp via ethernet and without all the hassels associated with USB from a pc. you could stream 192/24 without the USB problems, the same way you can with an oppo93 or above, no problems (although, the oppo is pretty slow and doesn't have the best interface for streaming) ethernet or wi-fi would also give the opportunity for iOS & Android device control, something that lots of us love too. future thinking is what i'm getting at, options.

but, your point is well taken.

Streaming? What is this streaming you speak of? just kidding
I doubt my receivers or sources have streaming features( maybe on the PS3 ), but I probably
wouldn't use that feature anyway( guess I'm still old school, using CDs & an iPod dock ).

[Shagadelic]

Howdy y'all, quick ?
Just picked up the polk csiA6 a month ago. Want to amp things up down the road (xpa-5).
Just need to confirm how to Bi-Amp the center ch.?
My integra DTR-40.2 has Bi-Amp through surrounds L + R, but what about the center?
thoroughly puzzled, what say ye?

[Remo]

Originally Posted by Shagadelic

Howdy y'all, quick ?
Just picked up the polk csiA6 a month ago. Want to amp things up down the road (xpa-5).
Just need to confirm how to Bi-Amp the center ch.?
My integra DTR-40.2 has Bi-Amp through surrounds L + R, but what about the center?
thoroughly puzzled, what say ye?

I say waste of time, you would be passive bi-amping anyways. Worthless.

[Shagadelic]

err-ehh? so... amp the L + R towers, skip the center?