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Old 11-24-2012, 10:43 PM   #1
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Default Panasonic 60" U50 VS Samsung 60" 530 Pros & Cons

I'm going to be picking up one or the other by year's end, and I figured you guys could help. Any advice?
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:35 PM   #2
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Personally, I would go with the Panasonic. My friend recently bought the 60" Panny U50 and all I could say was Wow! The blu-ray picture quality looks stunning for a TV at this price point. Granted it doesn't have a lot of the bells and whistles (3D, wifi) but if 2D picture quality is what you are after, it is a great set. Also, I think the Panasonic plasmas are built better overall as compared to Samsung plasmas. That's my two cents. Good Luck with your future purchase!
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:43 AM   #3
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No interest in 3D, and I have a Roku for apps, so it is just for a display.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:46 AM   #4
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Go with Panasonic. They are the leader. When Pioneer stopped making the Kuros and decided to get out of the plasma business, Panasonic bought their tech. The rumor was that Pioneers engineers went to Panny.

I have sold Panasonic Plasma over Samsung 10:1. The Panny offers better blacks and more refined picture, better detail.

When a "UT" is calibrated professionally, it gives as good a picture as a "VT" series Panasonic.

Keep in mind that Pannys 3d version in the U50 gives a better 2d picture than the non 3d sibling. Reason is that to give you an excellent 3d picture the 2d has to be even better. So what 3d has done for the 2d picture is up the ante, even if you never use the 3d.

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Old 11-25-2012, 04:44 PM   #5
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I was wondering the same thing as you, and I ended up with the Samung pn60e530. I read some reviews on the Panny and the samsung, well, the Samsung 550, which is similar to the 530, except the 530 doesn't have 3d or apps. Otherwise pretty similar.

Here's what I've gathered from my bit of research.

The Panasonic has better blacks, as good or almost as good as it's higher end Panasonic plasma's. The Samsung's black level's aren't as good. Still quite good, but Samsung model's don't get as good as Panny's until the pnxxe6500.

Both Panasonic's and Samsungs black's wash out a good bit in bright lighting. Quite noticeable in the store, but not as noticeable in a house setting. I just dime the lights a tiny bit and I'm fine in my room with the Samsung, and I expect the Panny to be similiar.

Ideal Gamma=2.2
Panny=2.0
Samsung=2.2

Ideal Greyscale=6,500k
Panny=6,281k
Samsungs=6,438
(those are before calibration.)
Post calibration
Panny=6,141
Samung=6,350

I wouldn't be too concerned at post calibration, as those are what Cnet got. Different calibrators could get different results, likely better results. But with out adjusting Samsungs grey scale is a bit better.

The Samsung and Panny both do okay at 5% and 20% luminance, but at 70% Panasonic has some problems while Samsung doesn't. This seems to also speak to the fact that the Pansonic can't get quite as bright as other plasmas. Shouldn't matter a whole lot, especially if you're going to be watching in a controlled light environmental. Which you should be doing anyway to handle the blacks washing out under lighting.

They both handle motion okay, getting around 750 lines of resolution. Both can do 24fps, both can properly deinterlace 1080i.

Overall is seems The Panasonic U50 has better black levels, while the Samsung has a better greyscale and more accurate gamma. Otherwsie they both seem pretty similiar. I don't think you can go wrong with either. I suppose it all comes down to price, atleast it did for me. I got the 60" Samsung for 850. I believe the Panny cost about the same now. At the time the Panny cost another 100 or so.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:04 AM   #6
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Thanks for that. Best Buy has the Samsung for about $850 but doesn't carry the U50 in the 60" version. Makes it more convenient for me if I decide to go that way.

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I was wondering the same thing as you, and I ended up with the Samung pn60e530. I read some reviews on the Panny and the samsung, well, the Samsung 550, which is similar to the 530, except the 530 doesn't have 3d or apps. Otherwise pretty similar.

Here's what I've gathered from my bit of research.

The Panasonic has better blacks, as good or almost as good as it's higher end Panasonic plasma's. The Samsung's black level's aren't as good. Still quite good, but Samsung model's don't get as good as Panny's until the pnxxe6500.

Both Panasonic's and Samsungs black's wash out a good bit in bright lighting. Quite noticeable in the store, but not as noticeable in a house setting. I just dime the lights a tiny bit and I'm fine in my room with the Samsung, and I expect the Panny to be similiar.

Ideal Gamma=2.2
Panny=2.0
Samsung=2.2

Ideal Greyscale=6,500k
Panny=6,281k
Samsungs=6,438
(those are before calibration.)
Post calibration
Panny=6,141
Samung=6,350

I wouldn't be too concerned at post calibration, as those are what Cnet got. Different calibrators could get different results, likely better results. But with out adjusting Samsungs grey scale is a bit better.

The Samsung and Panny both do okay at 5% and 20% luminance, but at 70% Panasonic has some problems while Samsung doesn't. This seems to also speak to the fact that the Pansonic can't get quite as bright as other plasmas. Shouldn't matter a whole lot, especially if you're going to be watching in a controlled light environmental. Which you should be doing anyway to handle the blacks washing out under lighting.

They both handle motion okay, getting around 750 lines of resolution. Both can do 24fps, both can properly deinterlace 1080i.

Overall is seems The Panasonic U50 has better black levels, while the Samsung has a better greyscale and more accurate gamma. Otherwsie they both seem pretty similiar. I don't think you can go wrong with either. I suppose it all comes down to price, atleast it did for me. I got the 60" Samsung for 850. I believe the Panny cost about the same now. At the time the Panny cost another 100 or so.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:39 AM   #7
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Sam's Club has the Panasonic 60" U50 for $798 if you have a membership.

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Old 11-26-2012, 05:15 PM   #8
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Sam's Club has the Panasonic 60" U50 for $798 if you have a membership.
I don't, only Costco
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:48 AM   #9
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A little update I came across today. My local Costco just put out a Panasonic UT50 55" for $799. That is one model better (better blacks, 3D, wireless ready) than the one the OP was looking at. It would be worth a look if you are still looking for a TV.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:16 AM   #10
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yeah,good, Sam's Club has the Panasonic 60" U50 for $798 if you have a membership.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:55 PM   #11
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I was going to get the Samsung 530, but after reading the reviews, I ended up getting the 550 60" inch. It's around $300 more though. Comes with a free Blu-Ray player, which I sold because I have a nicer one already.
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