High-End Active HDMI Cables from Monoprice

[Big Daddy]

I needed a 35ft to 40ft long high speed HDMI cable for my new 3D projector. The current HDMI cable that connected my previous projector is rated Standard Speed and is as thick as a snake and not manageable. In fact, most long HDMI cables, even the thick in-wall HDMI cables, are not high speed. Blue Jeans Cables sells long high speed HDMI cables, but they are thick and very expensive. After checking Monoprice, I found out that they sell the new active high-speed cables with Redmere technology. They are very thin and make my life a lot easier to run them through many obstacles. The cable should be delivered in a day or two. Monoprice is only 20 minutes away from where I live. I will give you a report on their performance after I have had a chance to test them for a few days.

SLIM SERIES HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI® CABLES w/ REDMERE® TECHNOLOGY

Monoprice:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...eyword=redmere slim series high performance hdmi® cables
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page...20hdmi%20cable
6ft to 60ft ($14.91 to $76.88)

Redmere Website:
http://www.redmere.com/

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A High Speed HDMI® Cable with RedMere® from Monoprice is the best way to transmit your High Speed HDMI signals over the longest distances, while using the thinnest cables possible!

RedMere technology is a breakthrough in the functionality and efficiency of HDMI cables. High Speed HDMI Cables with RedMere can reliably distribute High Speed signals to much greater distances, up to 65 feet (20 meters) at the full 10.2 Gbps data throughput, as opposed to the 25 foot distance for HDMI cables without RedMere technology. This can be done with thinner and lighter cables, which are easier to handle and route through your home theater system and which put less stress on your equipment's HDMI ports.

Normally a cable of this length would require minimum 28 AWG conductors to support High Speed HDMI features, but the RedMere chip in this cable allows it to support all High Speed HDMI features with only 36 AWG conductors.

Note that HDMI Cables with RedMere are directional (see the image above). One end must be connected to the source device (e.g., blu-ray player) and the other end to the sink/display (e.g., HDTV). Hooking them up backwards will not damage anything, they just won't transmit a signal. Also note that these cables are fully compatible with switches, splitters, matrix devices, etc. They can be used in any application in which a normal HDMI cable can be used and many applications where HDMI extenders would otherwise be required!

The VW-1 rating on this cable indicates that it complies with fire safety codes and insurance requirements and is safe for use inside the walls of residential class buildings.

TIP: It is a good idea to test cables and connections before installing them inside a wall. If there are any issues or problems, we can help you resolve them before you spend the time, effort, and expense of installing them inside the walls.

This cable supports the following HDMI features:

• 1080p Resolution - This High Speed HDMI Cable has sufficient bandwidth to transfer 1080p video signals between 1080p rated source and sink (display) devices.
• HDMI Ethernet Channel - The HDMI Ethernet Channel provides 100 Mbps, full-duplex Ethernet traffic along the HDMI cable, allowing a wired or wireless Ethernet connection on one device to be propagated to other devices. Note that for this feature to be functional, all pieces of equipment between the Ethernet source and the destination must support the HDMI Ethernet Channel feature.
• Audio Return Channel - Normally, your HDMI cable carries audio information along with the video from a source device (e.g. blu-ray player) to the sink device (display/television). Often times this goes through an AV receiver to drive a home theater audio system. The Audio Return Channel is primarily used to send the audio signal generated by the television when its internal tuner is used, back to the AV receiver, so that you can use your home theater audio system when watching television signals.
• 3D - 3D is the latest rage for both home theater and gaming. A High Speed HDMI Cable is capable of handling the high bandwidth requirements of 3D signals.
• 4K - The 4K resolution is 3840 x 2160 pixels @ 24 Hz, which is four times that of a 1080p display and the same resolution used by state-of-the-art Digital Cinema systems. A High Speed HDMI Cable is capable of handling the high bandwidth required for 4K support.
• Deep Color - The Deep Color feature provides a minimum of 8-bits per color element (24-bits total), providing for a total of over 16 million color variations. Other versions of Deep Color allow for up to 16-bits per element, for a total of 48-bits and over 281 trillion color variations, which really makes your video images come to life!
• x.v.Color™ - x.v.Coloris a promotion name given to the products that have the capability to realize a wide color space based on the xvYCC specifications and is a trademark of Sony Corporation. Currently, only AVCHD and Playstation™ 3 devices support x.v.Color.
• High Definition Audio - HDMI supports a full range of high definition audio types, including SA-CD, DVD-Audio, DTS-HD Master Audio™, and Dolby TrueHD™.

[goto10]

I picked up a 10 ft and a 15 ft Redmere and they are game-changers IMO. I will be picking up 2 40 footers now (they were out of stock). The cords are damn near as limp as a mini-headphone cable and super thin. I can't wait to replace my 2 ridiculously thick, stiff, port-ruining long-run Monoprice 22 guage hdmi's with these bad boys. Unreal product!

[My_Two_Cents]

Very nice!

I may need to get some of these the next time I need more cables.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by goto10

I picked up a 10 ft and a 15 ft Redmere and they are game-changers IMO. I will be picking up 2 40 footers now (they were out of stock). The cords are damn near as limp as a mini-headphone cable and super thin. I can't wait to replace my 2 ridiculously thick, stiff, port-ruining long-run Monoprice 22 guage hdmi's with these bad boys. Unreal product!

I'm going to do the same, but only after I purchase an A/V receiver, so I'll know exactly which lengths I need. I need to get rid of those bulky HDMI cables hooked up to my plasma right now.

[Goat1]

Those look great. I may get some myself. I have some thick ones now and you can't snake them anywhere..

[Big Daddy]

Monoprice shipped my cables last night. They should get to my house tomorrow.

Although my Blu-ray player, the receiver, and the projector are 3D (HDMI 1.4) compatible, I cannot get the player to play 3D movies. A message appears on the screen that my system needs to be 3D compatible and all firmwares must be up to date.

The Sony BDP S790 BD player and the Yamaha 3010 receiver are connected to the internet and they are up to date. The Benq W7000 projector is also up to date with firmware 1.03. I have also turned on their 3D options in their respective menus. The only other possibility is the long standard speed HDMI cable that goes to the projector. As soon as the new Redmere cable is delivered, I plan to crawl behind the equipment racks and spend a few hours there. I hate doing that. It is an absolute mess back there. I have so many components connected to one another with thick cables that give me nightmares. It requires several electrical engineers with Ph.D.s to figure out the mess.

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

Monoprice shipped my cables last night. They should get to my house tomorrow.

Although my Blu-ray player, the receiver, and the projector are 3D (HDMI 1.4) compatible, I cannot get the player to play 3D movies. A message appears on the screen that my system needs to be 3D compatible and all firmwares must be up to date.

The Sony BDP S790 BD player and the Yamaha 3010 receiver are connected to the internet and they are up to date. The Benq W7000 projector is also up to date with firmware 1.03. I have also turned on their 3D options in their respective menus. The only other possibility is the long standard speed HDMI cable that goes to the projector. As soon as the new Redmere cable is delivered, I plan to crawl behind the equipment racks and spend a few hours there. I hate doing that. It is an absolute mess back there. I have so many components connected to one another with thick cables that give me nightmares. It requires several electrical engineers with Ph.D.s to figure out the mess.

It most probably is the cable. happened to a friend of mine. As soon as he switched HDMI cable all was perfect. Good luck.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

It is an absolute mess back there. I have so many components connected to one another with thick cables that give me nightmares. It requires several electrical engineers with Ph.D.s to figure out the mess.

Lol. I feel your pain, BD.

I needed a 50' HDMI cable. I will never support a BJC product again (another story for another thread). I went with the HD 1000 Perfect Path Locking High-Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet Channel. A bit more expensive than Monoprice, but very flexible, and very reliable. I'm pleased.

[o.k636]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I needed a 35ft to 40ft long high speed HDMI cable for my new 3D projector. The current HDMI cable that connected my previous projector is rated Standard Speed and is as thick as a snake and not manageable. In fact, most long HDMI cables, even the thick in-wall HDMI cables, are not high speed. Blue Jeans Cables sells long high speed HDMI cables, but they are thick and very expensive. After checking Monoprice, I found out that they sell the new active high-speed cables with Redmere technology. They are very thin and make my life a lot easier to run them through many obstacles. The cable should be delivered in a day or two. Monoprice is only 20 minutes away from where I live. I will give you a report on their performance after I have had a chance to test them for a few days.

SLIM SERIES HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI® CABLES w/ RREDMERE® TECHNOLOGY

Monoprice:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10250, scroll to the bottom.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page...20hdmi%20cable
6ft to 60ft ($14.91 to $76.88)

Redmere Website:
http://www.redmere.com/

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Redmere Chips are explained in the following PDF files:
http://en.redmere.com/business/downloads.php

Casual Review:
http://www.avault.com/reviews/hardwa...-cable-review/
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...mat=4#feedback
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A question, So these will only hook your componets straight to your tv ? OR Can you connect (blu-ray player - Directv Reciver - Game system - etc) to your audio reciever (source being what connect from tv being the audio reciever) and use the audio recivers pass through technology to send it via hdmi to the tv ?

[rpatt]

Thanks for the tip on these cales BD. I was dreading having to run the thick BJC cable around my room. This looks like a very good solution. Looking forward to your review.

[Big Daddy]

I bought a 30ft and a 10ft Slim Series (not Ultra Slim Series) HDMI cables with Redmere Technology from Monoprice. My intention was to connect the 10ft cable to the AVR and from there to the DarbeeVision’s Darblet and use the 30ft cable to connect the Darblet to my projector.

I have summarized my observations in the following:

1. The 30ft (28 AWG) cable is thicker than the 10ft cable (36 AWG). However, the 30ft Redmere cable is still thinner than most quality 30ft HDMI cables.
2. It is very important that you connect the cable correctly. The direction of the cable is very important. Fortunately, the labels are large and easy to read.
3. The picture quality of the cables was very good, but I could tell any difference between the picture quality of these cables and other HDMI cables.
4. When I connected the Darbee Vision’s Darblet between the 10ft and the 30ft Redmere cables, I could not get any signal. When I replaced the 10ft Redmere cable with a regular HDMI cable, the signal appeared again. Apparently, you have to connect one end of the Redmere cable to the source and the other end to the display. You cannot daisy chain them.
5. I did not use an HDMI Splitter or an HDMI Switch between the two Redmere cables, but my guess is that you may not get any signal.
6. Final conclusion:
   
   
   1. The Redmere cables are not cheap, although Monoprice sells them at a lower price than most other dealers.
      
      10ft Slim Series High Speed HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology: $18.43
      30ft Slim Series High Speed HDMI® Cable w/ RedMere® Technology: $46.16
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      Subtotal: $64.59
      Shipping & Handling: $5.63
      CA Sales Tax: $5.44
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      GRAND TOTAL : $75.66
      
      That is a lot of dough for two anorexic cables.
      
      
   2. If you plan to run the cables through the walls or under the carpet and the thickness of the cables is important, spend the money and buy them.
   3. If you plan to use another gadget (such as the Darblet or HDMI Splitter or HDMI Switch) between two Redmere cables, it may not work. I assume this means that you cannot connect one of these cables from your BD player to the AVR. If you follow the labels on the cable, one end has to be connected to the source and the other end to the display. I hope I am wrong on this.
   4. If your goal is to get significantly better picture quality, I was not able to tell the difference between the Redmere cables and other HDMI cables.

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

[Show spoiler]I bought a 30ft and a 10ft Slim Series (not Ultra Slim Series) HDMI cables with Redmere Technology from Monoprice. My intention was to connect the 10ft cable to the AVR and from there to the DarbeeVision’s Darblet and use the 30ft cable to connect the Darblet to my projector.

I have summarized my observations in the following:
[LIST=1][*]The 30ft (28 AWG) cable is thicker than the 10ft cable (36 AWG). However, the 30ft Redmere cable is still thinner than most quality 30ft HDMI cables.[*]It is very important that you connect the cable correctly. The direction of the cable is very important. Fortunately, the labels are large and easy to read.

[*]The picture quality of the cables was very good, but I could tell any difference between the picture quality of these cables and other HDMI cables.

Thanks for the post BD. A friend was looking into these for a possible projector project. In the highlighted portion, I am assuming you could NOT tell a difference. If there are differences in PQ, I am curious at what you noticed. Thanks

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by Kali157

Thanks for the post BD. A friend was looking into these for a possible projector project. In the highlighted portion, I am assuming you could NOT tell a difference. If there are differences in PQ, I am curious at what you noticed. Thanks

I dont have the best eyes and tried very hard, with and without glasses, to find any significant difference between the PQ of the Redmere and the other cables, but couldn't tell the difference. I really wanted the Redmere cable to be superior, but even with placebo, it was impossible to tell the difference.

[rpatt]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I dont have the best eyes and tried very hard, with and without glasses, to find any significant difference between the PQ of the Redmere and the other cables, but couldn't tell the difference. I really wanted the Redmere cable to be superior, but even with placebo, it was impossible to tell the difference.

Thanks for the info BD. What's important to me is the reduced thickness (to facilitate installation) and that the PQ should be at least as good as the thicker cables.

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I dont have the best eyes and tried very hard, with and without glasses, to find any significant difference between the PQ of the Redmere and the other cables, but couldn't tell the difference. I really wanted the Redmere cable to be superior, but even with placebo, it was impossible to tell the difference.

Thanks BD

[School]

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2


i need to save some space in my media center... will these do the trick? and will they provide all the support i need for HD masteries and 3D?

any thoughts on these?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by School

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2


i need to save some space in my media center... will these do the trick? and will they provide all the support i need for HD masteries and 3D?

any thoughts on these?

You only need the Redmere HDMI cables if the the length of the cable is too long. For lengths below 12ft-15ft, any decent HDMI cable should work. Even the very cheap ones may surprise you.

[extrafuzzyllama]

I am really only getting redmere for the reduced thickness since i am a bit scared my thick hdmi cables might cause port damage

[rpatt]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but... Is anyone using the 50' redmere from monoprice with a 3D signal? If so, how is the PQ?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by rpatt

Sorry to dig up an old thread but... Is anyone using the 50' redmere from monoprice with a 3D signal? If so, how is the PQ?

The one I bought was 40ft long. The PQ was good. I own a Darbee Vision. Unfortunately, you cannot connect it to the Darbee because it is a directional cable. It is not possible to run a Redmere cable from the receiver to the box and another one from the box to the projector.