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Old 11-24-2012, 12:16 AM   #17501
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i don't know he does it! what a work ethic! talk about a guy that really cares about the business and devotes everything he has to it! i can completely understand why he gets a title shot at Royal Rumble!
Because he's a legend. He's paid his dues, and he's still a draw. People want to see him wrestle the current top guys he's never wrestled like CM Punk, and will pay good money for it.

The roster is thin, and we've seen all the same old main events time and again. And WWE has been so crap at making new stars and sustaining main event pushes (Kofi, Jack Swagger, etc.)

That's why he gets a title shot at Royal Rumble.
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Because he's a legend. He's paid his dues, and he's still a draw. People want to see him wrestle the current top guys he's never wrestled like CM Punk, and will pay good money for it.

The roster is thin, and we've seen all the same old main events time and again. And WWE has been so crap at making new stars and sustaining main event pushes (Kofi, Jack Swagger, etc.)

That's why he gets a title shot at Royal Rumble.
it's one thing to host WM, or headline with a match with Cena. and it's one thing to come back and it's one thing to be a legend and be a draw, but it's an entirely different realm when you give him a title shot out of thin air.

bad example forthcoming, but that would be like saying, "okay, the 1972 Dolphins were a great team, and we're unhappy with teams with a winning record this year, so let's have the '72 Dolphins in the Super Bowl this year because at least that will boost ratings and put eyes on our product again."

as bad as the roster is, it's still disrespectful and looks bad to bring someone back who has wrestled twice in a decade a title shot.

eventually it becomes beating a dead horse.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:36 AM   #17503
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it's one thing to host WM, or headline with a match with Cena. and it's one thing to come back and it's one thing to be a legend and be a draw, but it's an entirely different realm when you give him a title shot out of thin air.

bad example forthcoming, but that would be like saying, "okay, the 1972 Dolphins were a great team, and we're unhappy with teams with a winning record this year, so let's have the '72 Dolphins in the Super Bowl this year because at least that will boost ratings and put eyes on our product again."

as bad as the roster is, it's still disrespectful and looks bad to bring someone back who has wrestled twice in a decade a title shot.

eventually it becomes beating a dead horse.
I totally get that, but as a fan in 2012, it doesn't bother me to give The Rock a title shot over a full time wrestler. If this was years ago when title shots actually mattered and were crucial in getting you to the next level, I would care. The past several years I've seen guys get title shots, only to go back to the mid-card and continue at the same level, as if it never happened, and never amount to anything.

Speaking of... Is Christian still around? Guy is way over due of a legit World Title run.
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I totally get that, but as a fan in 2012, it doesn't bother me to give The Rock a title shot over a full time wrestler. If this was years ago when title shots actually mattered and were crucial in getting you to the next level, I would care. The past several years I've seen guys get title shots, only to go back to the mid-card and continue at the same level, as if it never happened, and never amount to anything.

Speaking of... Is Christian still around? Guy is way over due of a legit World Title run.
i agree with that as well. i think Triple H is starting to get his way and he wants longer reigns which means more substantial and better reigns for guys who actually prove and deserve it. which is why this is a bad time for The Rock to get a title shot because it kind of goes against what Triple H wants to preach.

if Rock loses, okay, no harm. but i doubt they have him coming back to lose to Punk, unless his ego is set aside and he wants to put Punk over (which i hope is the case).

i know Christian had an ankle injury months ago but i believe he's back to being... something lol. randomly put in matches on Smackdown.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:09 AM   #17505
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I think WWE missed a HUGE chance to do something with The Miz face turn and leaving Team Ziggler. WARNING FANTASY BOOKING AHEAD

WWE should have had The Miz be the sole survivor by defeating ADR and Ziggler leading to Ziggler losing to Miz on Main Event and then getting pissed and saying he wants another match at TLC and Miz says only if he puts up the briefcase in a Ladder Match. Have Miz WIN the WHCMITB briefcase and cash in that same night on Big Show after another Sheamus beat down with a chair. Then Miz defends against Show at Rumble and beats him while Ziggler wins the Rumble from the Number 1 spot and then challenges Miz for the WHC at Mania adn they can have Ziggler win at Mania (They love to have the WHC change at Mania)
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:23 AM   #17506
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I think WWE missed a HUGE chance to do something with The Miz face turn and leaving Team Ziggler. WARNING FANTASY BOOKING AHEAD

WWE should have had The Miz be the sole survivor by defeating ADR and Ziggler leading to Ziggler losing to Miz on Main Event and then getting pissed and saying he wants another match at TLC and Miz says only if he puts up the briefcase in a Ladder Match. Have Miz WIN the WHCMITB briefcase and cash in that same night on Big Show after another Sheamus beat down with a chair. Then Miz defends against Show at Rumble and beats him while Ziggler wins the Rumble from the Number 1 spot and then challenges Miz for the WHC at Mania adn they can have Ziggler win at Mania (They love to have the WHC change at Mania)
...no. lol

i personally disagree with all of that. Ziggler vs Miz would be a terrible championship match, especially if it was at WM. Miz should never hold a world title again. and Ziggler is heel, but he needs to face a super face to really make him a heel (a la why they have him against Cena now will be great for Ziggler).
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:17 AM   #17507
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i don't know he does it! what a work ethic! talk about a guy that really cares about the business and devotes everything he has to it! i can completely understand why he gets a title shot at Royal Rumble!
Well initially when this was thought out he was supposed to be with WWE from Dec - April and leave after mania, but i think he took a movie role and may now have a shoot in Feb so plans all got screwed up. TBH I didnt think most of his promo work was as good as it could have been or was back in the attitude era, guys like Rock and Jericho were the bomb on the mic back in the day, but put them on today and it just feels like something is missing.
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:37 AM   #17508
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I want The Rock to become WWE Champion again. Sorry guys, but its the right thing to do if Cena is to get the rub from The Great One.

Re: Punk Vs. Undertaker

If its happening, its not going to be for the title. Undertaker's in bad shape last time I read. I'm getting tired of the Streak Vs. Title schtick as well. WWE messed up by never having Undertaker be champion at WM defending the Streak and the title. It would've been something new and different.
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Should be an interesting Raw tonight....
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If its happening, its not going to be for the title. Undertaker's in bad shape last time I read. I'm getting tired of the Streak Vs. Title schtick as well. WWE messed up by never having Undertaker be champion at WM defending the Streak and the title. It would've been something new and different.
Honestly, they should have stopped at 20-0. Leave it at a nice round number.
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Honestly, they should have stopped at 20-0. Leave it at a nice round number.
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i assume by the "end of an era" of Undertaker vs Triple H V.3 that it meant either Undertaker was done, or his next opponent(s) would be from this era (i.e. not even Cena who was kind of part of the last era). and since he never announced his retirement, i suspect more and more that him facing someone much newer to the company would be the way to go.

so with that, i hope it is Punk as i don't think anyone else can help carry Taker in a Mania match at this point, nor deserves it.
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i assume by the "end of an era" of Undertaker vs Triple H V.3 that it meant either Undertaker was done, or his next opponent(s) would be from this era (i.e. not even Cena who was kind of part of the last era). and since he never announced his retirement, i suspect more and more that him facing someone much newer to the company would be the way to go.

so with that, i hope it is Punk as i don't think anyone else can help carry Taker in a Mania match at this point, nor deserves it.
If they didn't make Daniel Bryan into a joke I would say he's right up there as well.

I thought him and Kane segments were awesome but now its just bad, imo.
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If they didn't make Daniel Bryan into a joke I would say he's right up there as well.

I thought him and Kane segments were awesome but now its just bad, imo.
I think the eventual split of Team Hell No is around the corner.... time to take the brakes of D.Bry and hit the gas....
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I think the eventual split of Team Hell No is around the corner.... time to take the brakes of D.Bry and hit the gas....
They're making him the weak link that screws up now with a limited set of moves. It's sad.

Go from taking Punk to his limits to this.
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Del Rio vs Hornswaggle at the next PPV.

Is it me or did Tamina Snuka get hot in the last month?
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another great showing by Ziggler. lots of spots from the Cena vs Punk match at MITB i see though.

and come on, after that wicked escape from the AA and into Ziggler's finishing move to an instant cover, he still kicks out?? come on
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I think it's interesting that they're giving him someone by his side.
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