DarbeeVision

[hometheatergeek]

Originally Posted by BluBrown

I'd start out with Prometheus if I were you, something that you almost can't imagine looking any better. With my Darbee it's been my experience that the better the source the more the Darbee can do for it. I'm always playing around with the settings and different modes on mine but I seem to always go back to 54% on my setup.

Have any of the Darbee users out there tried programming their Harmony remote to control the Darbee? I've been meaning to try it out as it would be nice to eliminate the little remote if possible.

Hello and good morning BluBrown, I have my Harmony One setup with the codes. I made some customized buttons in three of my Activities>>Watch TV, Watch TV with Surround and Watch a Bluray with "Less Darbee" and "More Darbee". Works great.

[BluBrown]

Originally Posted by hometheatergeek

Hello and good morning BluBrown, I have my Harmony One setup with the codes. I made some customized buttons in three of my Activities>>Watch TV, Watch TV with Surround and Watch a Bluray with "Less Darbee" and "More Darbee". Works great.

That's awesome, thanks! I'll have to do a little programming on my Harmony 900 when I get home this afternoon. Does Logitech have the Darbee listed or did you just use the "learn" function?

[hometheatergeek]

Originally Posted by BluBrown

That's awesome, thanks! I'll have to do a little programming on my Harmony 900 when I get home this afternoon. Does Logitech have the Darbee listed or did you just use the "learn" function?

Add new device...under amplifier....audio/video switch....darbeevision...and type in DVP-5000 for the model

[CJS234]

Originally Posted by Badas

I used Lockout first. I had it highly pumped up to about 80%. I was blown away. I now have it down to 30% and find it has a nice increase of detail but still looks like film.

The thing is it works on everything. I watched: Vivre Sa Vie which is 50 years old and the Darbee improved it nicely. With no bad effects.

Ta Dono

Hey Badas, I've been trying to read through this whole thread and on page 2 you mention some sort of Dono tweak to Gamma. I already have my Gamma set to ~2.4/2.5, but what is this tweak you speak of? Can I use it on my TV?

[Badas]

Originally Posted by hometheatergeek

Add new device...under amplifier....audio/video switch....darbeevision...and type in DVP-5000 for the model

Cool I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

Ta Dono

[Badas]

Originally Posted by CJS234

Hey Badas, I've been trying to read through this whole thread and on page 2 you mention some sort of Dono tweak to Gamma. I already have my Gamma set to ~2.4/2.5, but what is this tweak you speak of? Can I use it on my TV?

I don't know if you can???? On my projector I can set up custom Gamma curves. So I have mine set up on Gamma 2.5 for extra Pop and have the bottom percentages adjusted to 2.4 for shadow detail. Check out your Gamma settings.

Ta Dono

[CJS234]

No I can't do that. However I did calibrate to an average gamma of 2.4 and the way it worked out, my lower half ire are at 2.4, the middle ires are at 2.5 and then it goes down a bit at the higher ires. I think it looks good lol

Oh yeah I got my darblet yesterday. I messed around with it and while the difference is subtle like many have said, I think I like it. I find I need it on 80% though on green hd mode. This may or may not change in the future but for now it's staying at 80 lol

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[Badas]

Originally Posted by CJS234

No I can't do that. However I did calibrate to an average gamma of 2.4 and the way it worked out, my lower half ire are at 2.4, the middle ires are at 2.5 and then it goes down a bit at the higher ires. I think it looks good lol

Oh yeah I got my darblet yesterday. I messed around with it and while the difference is subtle like many have said, I think I like it. I find I need it on 80% though on green hd mode. This may or may not change in the future but for now it's staying at 80 lol

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Yeah, Thats where I started 70-80%. However it makes dark metal objects look real fake. Can also make faces to harsh. As soon as you see things that don't look right. Pause and then turn On and Off to compare. If Off looks fine and On looks fake then your settings are too high. Lower until it looks fine.

Ta Dono

[CJS234]

I haven't had that problem yet with metal objects or people's faces. I'm sure that if I start to see anything funny I will turn it down immediately, but I can't see myself moving it from 80 in the foreseeable future.

[Rustolem]

Okay I got my Darblet yesterday and going to hook it up today, and after reading all the posts I know what to expect and what settings on the Darblet I should enjoy the most, but where I need my help is the settings on my equipment.
I will be hooking it up between my Yamaha RX-A3000 and my Mits WD-92840 DLP, here's what I will be using and the options I have on them, just need to know what settings to put them on for best use with the Darblet.

Badas, I would really like your input if you have the time.

Sony BluRay choices YCbCr 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 or RGB or Auto

Dune Media Player YCbCr 709 or 601 or RBG Limited or Full
it also has HDMI Color Depth of 8,10, or 12 bit

Xbox 360 YCbCr 709 or 601

HTPC YCbCr 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 or RGB Limited or Full

Hope this makes some sense not very knowledgeable when it comes to these type of settings so any help would be awesome.

Thanks
Rustolem

[Badas]

^^^^

Okay, I read in the manuel on-line and on some forums that the Darblet does all it's processing in Y,Cr,Cb.

So I don't know if you know anything about colourspace but it is best to not have any back and forth.

So if you output say RGB from a player this is what will happen.

Y,Cr,Cb 4.0.0 on disc. Converted to Y,Cr,Cb 4.2.2, Converted to RGB in player and sent, Converted RGB to Y,Cr,Cb 4.2.2 in Darbet, then processed, Converted back to RGB and sent to display. Display will do no conversion. Awful.

Best thing is to leave the players set on Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2. Then this is what will happen.

Y, Cr,Cb 4.0.0 on disc converted to Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2 (easy procees. All players do this regardless), Set to Darblet for processing, Once processing is done sent to display, Display changes Y, Cr,Cb 4.2.2 to RGB. Done easy and less chance of bad colourspace handling.

That is what I will suggest and use.

Note#. Make sure and Amp/Receiver is set to pass the signal. Common refered to as Pass through.

Ta Dono

[Rustolem]

Originally Posted by Badas

^^^^

Okay, I read in the manuel on-line and on some forums that the Darblet does all it's processing in Y,Cr,Cb.

So I don't know if you know anything about colourspace but it is best to not have any back and forth.

So if you output say RGB from a player this is what will happen.

Y,Cr,Cb 4.0.0 on disc. Converted to Y,Cr,Cb 4.2.2, Converted to RGB in player and sent, Converted RGB to Y,Cr,Cb 4.2.2 in Darbet, then processed, Converted back to RGB and sent to display. Display will do no conversion. Awful.

Best thing is to leave the players set on Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2. Then this is what will happen.

Y, Cr,Cb 4.0.0 on disc converted to Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2 (easy procees. All players do this regardless), Set to Darblet for processing, Once processing is done sent to display, Display changes Y, Cr,Cb 4.2.2 to RGB. Done easy and less chance of bad colourspace handling.

That is what I will suggest and use.

Note#. Make sure and Amp/Receiver is set to pass the signal. Common refered to as Pass through.

Ta Dono

Thank you very much and yes I have always had the AVR set to pass through.Can't wait to hook this thing up and give it a try.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by Rustolem

Thank you very much and yes I have always had the AVR set to pass through.Can't wait to hook this thing up and give it a try.

Did I make sense? Hard to explain sometimes.

Ta Dono

[Rustolem]

Originally Posted by Badas

Did I make sense? Hard to explain sometimes.

Ta Dono

I think so, if my have the option of choosing the "output" on any of the devices that I will be using I should chose "Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2" on all of them and since the signal will be going through Yamaha and then out to Darby I should have my video option on the Yamaha set to "pass through".

Thanks.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by Rustolem

I think so, if my have the option of choosing the "output" on any of the devices that I will be using I should chose "Y, Cr, Cb 4.2.2" on all of them and since the signal will be going through Yamaha and then out to Darby I should have my video option on the Yamaha set to "pass through".

Thanks.

Correct-a-mundo.

[z-man99]

I just added one of these to my theater. I'm really liking the added definition, especially on movies with big impressive landscape shots. A true bargain!

[z-man99]

Screenshots with JVS RS40 with Darbee off, then on at different settings.

[jw]

Originally Posted by punisher

Today is the last day to get the Darbee for 269 at the AVSFORUM..tomorrow the price goes up to 349

Evidently it started at 249.00 to begin with based on an Amazon review, so I wouldnt buy until the price drops again.

The price was raised from $249 purely based upon sales hype. Remember 30% of posts on forums aren't for real.

Amazon has it for 319.00(fulfilled by)... seemingly overpriced but very good return policy if you change your mind

[hometheatergeek]

Geez where did everyone go?

Anyway

Hello gentlemen and ladies,
I re-did my setup over the weekend when I upgraded a Denon 4311CI and a Oppo 103 to my system. One of my goals was to place the Darblet on the back of my display between the upright of the TV mount and the back of the display. It fits perfectly in that area with no need for any use of attachment like Velcro or the like. The front of the Darbee at the new location faces the front wall of my room. I thought I was going to have to run an IR emitter to the Darbee on the back of the TV but to my amazement the Harmony One that has the Darbee codes works without the use of an emitter. My theory is the Harmony sends out such a strong IR signal that the commands for the Darbee are bouncing off the front wall and hitting the Darbee's IR receiver. Very happy with this discovery.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by hometheatergeek

Geez where did everyone go?

Yeah it has bee a while. Still enjoying the Darbee. Just set and forget device. I have settled on 33% if anyone is interested.