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Old 11-25-2012, 10:59 AM   #1
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Default Official Goldenear Forcefield Subwoofer Thread

Here are the preliminary specs on Goldenears Forcefield 5 subwoofer.............

ForceField™ 5 High-Power subwoofer
The response to GoldenEar’s award-winning ForceField 3 and 4
Subwoofers has been simply phenomenal. Their amazing performance
has been compared with much larger and more expensive subs. We
have, however, had consistent demand for something even more:
an over-the-top true super sub. We are pleased to introduce the
latest addition to our subwoofer line up, the ForceField 5.
This extraordinary new subwoofer incorporates all the advanced
technology and innovative concepts introduced in the Force-
Field 3 and 4 in a larger and even more powerful low-frequency
beast. Perfect for music and movies, the ForceField 5’s stunning
impact, superbly musical bass articulation and breathtaking infrasonic
capabilities will leave listeners breathless. The ForceField 5
combines a long-throw 12" subwoofer (which incorporates a huge
high gauss magnet structure) driven by a GoldenEar-designed DSPcontrolled
1500-Watt digital amplifi er and pressure coupled to a
downward-fi ring 12.75" X 14.5" quadratic planar infrasonic radiator.
The ForceField 5's
high-power driver
and pressurecoupled
quadratic
infrasonic radiator
deliver unexcelled
bass performance.

FoRCeFieLD 5 sPeCiFiCATions
Dimensions: 15" W x 18" D x 14.5" H (height is with feet installed). Frequency Response:
12 Hz – 200 Hz. Driver Complement: One 12" long-throw high-output bass driver, One 12.75" x 14.5"quadratic planar infrasonic radiator. Amplifi er: 1500-Watt ForceField digital amplifi er. speaker
Level High-Pass Filter: 6 dB per octave at 150 Hz (approx.). speaker Level Low-Pass Filter: 12 dB
per octave continuously variable from 40 – 150 Hz. Low-Level input (Mono): Unfi ltered (no low
pass), direct-coupled. Wireless input: For optional GoldenEar wireless accessory (sold separately).
*SPECIFICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:45 AM   #2
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We are pleased to introduce the
latest addition to our subwoofer line up, the ForceField 5.
When did they release that? I can't find a mention of it on their website.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:49 PM   #3
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Ot is not out yet, sometime in the new year.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:14 PM   #4
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We have one on order and were told to expect it in February.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:00 PM   #5
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5.5 GoldenEar Sonic Nirvana

We just have to write this, because we rolled our eyes when we read all the glowing reviews about GoldenEar speakers (yeah we know… “Everything you read on the Internet is true”). So for the past year or so we have done extensive research for a high-end surround sound and music system to be installed in a 24’ by 36’ (an Open Living Room, Dining Room, and Bar Area) great room. To say we listened to a lot of systems is an understatement.

First off we really didn’t have a budget (per-say), but it’s our belief that when building a high-end surround sound system there is a price to quality ratio that makes sense. We believe the pricing of many high-end systems have long gone past the marketing strategy of “whatever the market will bare”.

When we first heard the GoldenEar Triton 2 speakers we were not blown away, but we felt they had potential. So we called Sandy Gross and asked why we aren't hearing with others said they heard? After some calls back and forth he asked me to go listen to them again, he was right, they were setup wrong the first time, and they sounded wonderful.

We are now in sonic nirvana; we setup a 5.4 (soon to be 5.5) GoldenEar surround sound system consisting of 4 GoldenEar Triton 2’s a GoldenEar SuperSat 50C and soon to be a GoldenEar Forcefield 5 Subwoofer. This system already compares to the best we’ve heard. The vocals are crisp and clear, the speakers are so open they disappear and you get totally immersed. The 4 built-in sub-woofers of the Triton 2’s blend seamlessly. We were worried about the 50C not being up to the task, but we were wrong. We hear things we never heard before; we are re-watching our Blu-Ray collection!

A side note: this review is coming from a couple that has been around the block a few times. Over the years we have owned a few esoteric high-end systems such as “Quad ESL’s, Magnepan, B&W 801’s, Legacy Whispers, Hartley, Proceed AVP, Oracle, Ray Samuels Tube Amps etc. etc.

My father always said; “If an intelligent person is willing to share his knowledge with you, be smart enough to listen”! We tweaked the system the way Sandy Gross suggested and have not looked back.

The true accomplishment GoldenEar has achieved is a fantastic high-end sound (period). AND "the icing on the cake" is that you don't need a second mortgage.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:02 PM   #6
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Congrats Steve!
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:46 PM   #7
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Mr. Debauchery,

We have to thank you, we have been following your postings for some time, they are very insightful, and greatly appreciated!

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Old 12-14-2012, 01:52 AM   #8
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Mr. Debauchery,

We have to thank you, we have been following your postings for some time, they are very insightful, and greatly appreciated!

Steve
WOW, thank you Steve. I really believe in GE's product. I loved them the moment i heard them. They are amazing speakers, their FF5 will be outstanding, especially if it gets to the 12hz region. They will sell fast!
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:11 AM   #9
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We will be setting up the Forcefield 5 along with the 50C as a large center, and we will be also using it's LFE input.

As an experiment we briefly setup our system with a Triton 2 (set to large) as a center channel speaker... it was truly incredible!
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We will be setting up the Forcefield 5 along with the 50C as a large center, and we will be also using it's LFE input.

As an experiment we briefly setup our system with a Triton 2 (set to large) as a center channel speaker... it was truly incredible!
Sounds fantastic. Audyssey always sets the 50C to small. Which is what i read when setting the Triton II's up. The 50C was set to small to deliver the bass ton the Triton II's as they are set to large.

I heard the Aon 3's a few months back. They sounded so close to the Tritons it blew me away. Those with a forcefield 5 will be formidable for sure.

Did Sandy end up sending you a forcefield 5? As your the only person i know of right now that has one?
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:20 PM   #11
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Q: Did Sandy end up sending you a forcefield 5?

A : No not yet, we hope to get our Forcefield 5 in early February.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:19 AM   #12
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Creating a better sonic image:

"The whole system is greater than the sum of its parts". In the past we stacked advent speakers to create a better stereo sonic image, and then we stacked Quad ESL's to create an even better stereo sonic image, with our GoldenEar Triton 2 system we have (in a sense) horizontally stacked them around the room (each speaker is about 12' apart) and created a better surround sound sonic image.

Side note: to be totally open, we have heard better stereo systems than the Triton 2's, but they always contained many very expensive amps, a very expensive preamp, the source material came from something that when you heard the price you just laughed, and the speakers were so large that you had to totally plan your living space around them.

IMHO, if you go the GoldenEar Triton 2 route you can get 90% of the way there for stereo, and you wind up with a world class surround sound system for a fraction of the cost.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:47 PM   #13
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We ran speaker wires from the receiver to the sub in, and ran speaker wires from the sub out to the 50C.

Our receiver is set to sub-woofer yes giving us surround sound LFE from all 5 subwoofers (we also ran LFE (RCA) wires to all 5 subs).

IMHO/ By having 5 full range speakers and 5 sub-woofers w/ LFE we have created a 3D surround sound system.

It's the most uncanny thing... the sound stage has detailed sound placed exactly where it's supposed to be, explosions in movies are also 3D.

Example: We watched War Horse and there was a scene where a series of bombs went off in a trench (left to right) and in our room it sounded like they were going off in front of us (left to right), that was pretty cool, but it's really amazing to here bombs go off in a distance with this 3D sound effect. There was a part where a cannon shot from the far right and you could hear the bomb fly over your head and explode on the left just behind the couch.

When we say 3D sound we are referring to sound that has height, depth and width. If a shot comes from a roof on the left and hits on the ground on the right you don't just hear a bang on the left and a "pa-ding" on the right, you hear the shot from the upper left of the room, the bullet travels from the upper left to the lower right of the room and when it hits you hear the detailed snap making you think... Oh, that had to hurt.

The 3D surround sound really makes you feel like you are there.
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We ran speaker wires from the receiver to the sub in, and ran speaker wires from the sub out to the 50C.

Our receiver is set to sub-woofer yes giving us surround sound LFE from all 5 subwoofers (we also ran LFE (RCA) wires to all 5 subs).

IMHO/ By having 5 full range speakers and 5 sub-woofers w/ LFE we have created a 3D surround sound system.

It's the most uncanny thing... the sound stage has detailed sound placed exactly where it's supposed to be, explosions in movies are also 3D.

Example: We watched War Horse and there was a scene where a series of bombs went off in a trench (left to right) and in our room it sounded like they were going off in front of us (left to right), that was pretty cool, but it's really amazing to here bombs go off in a distance with this 3D sound effect. There was a part where a cannon shot from the far right and you could hear the bomb fly over your head and explode on the left just behind the couch.

When we say 3D sound we are referring to sound that has height, depth and width. If a shot comes from a roof on the left and hits on the ground on the right you don't just hear a bang on the left and a "pa-ding" on the right, you hear the shot from the upper left of the room, the bullet travels from the upper left to the lower right of the room and when it hits you hear the detailed snap making you think... Oh, that had to hurt.

The 3D surround sound really makes you feel like you are there.
That would be something to hear. That is what i am looking for in my home theater. However i have gone the satelite route and in ceiling route due to the space limitation. If i ever end up with a bigger room down the road, i will heed your advise. Thanks for sharing. Take pictures of your set up when it is complete. It will be wicked to see.
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We have to give credit where credit is due.

Our goal here is (like most) to get the best bang for the buck.

The only thing we can take credit for is being smart enough to listen to people that really know what they are talking about.

We just took the gracious advise of Sandy Gross, and Don Tomlinson Owner Gleeson's Audio / Video in Ocean City, NJ.

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I was over to GE'S website and the new FF 5 sub is on it, says it goes to 12hz.
I hope it goes for professional review to see if that can actually be achieved?
That is something SVS doesn't do so that will be a huge achievement if GE has done it?
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Looks awesome. Nice little package also.
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