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Old 12-27-2012, 06:20 AM   #2321
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I am one of those guys who generally prefer the newer multichannel mixes for most movies, but I think the original audio should always be included on all blu-rays in HD audio. Most older movies only have one or two channels, so it wouldn't take up hardly any disc space, and the original mixes are pretty much a done deal, so there would be very little effort put into including it. Even for guys like me who prefer the newer multichannel mixes, it would be a fun and interesting option to be able to compare the two on the disc, or even watch the whole movie with one mix and then the other. If nothing else, it would be a nice bonus feature for someone like me, while delighting all of the audio purists. I really don't see why they don't include it. Maybe a double-dip ace up their sleeve?

If you go to the homepage or any movie page on this site and type in the blu-ray that you want to add to your collection, a list of matching titles will pop up. You can go over to the picture next to the correct one and select "Add To My Collection" or "Add To My Wishlist". You can also go to the page of the movie you are wanting to add, and it will have the options under the title cover picture. Once you've added them, when you are on the homepage, you can see on the right side where it says "My BDs", and it will show how many you have. This feature is very handy to keep track of all of your movies. You can also go to preferences and select unique skus (will count a boxset as one) or unique movies (counts each movie individually).
Exactly. You can prefer the multi-channel surround sound audio tracks all you want, that's a matter of preference, but the inclusion of the mono track is not only important for historical reasons but would actuelly satisfy everyone from the purists to the less aware who might want to experiment watching the film with a different track for a different experience the next time he or she goes to watch it. Everybody wins. More options are better. Also, as for the 5.1 remix, I'm betting that most wouldn't quite hate it so much if it didn't virtually replace all the SFX with new additions that were both shot almost 20 years later and were inferior to their mono counterparts. If they wanted to create a 5.1 remix, maybe converting the orignal mono audio with the sounds in tact to surround mode would have been more welcome since something like that would be a respectful upgrade.

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Old 12-27-2012, 10:10 AM   #2322
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That was a rhetorical question. Do you know what rhetorical means Villiam? Maybe you should look it up.
Maybe you shouldn't have attempted to answer my question as I think I already know the answer.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:14 AM   #2323
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sure it didn't happen lol
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:40 AM   #2324
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Maybe you shouldn't have attempted to answer my question as I think I already know the answer.
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sure it didn't happen lol
I think you should both stop the back & forth or else
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:39 PM   #2325
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I knew I waited on this one for a reason! Nice
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:14 AM   #2326
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Is there any chance we get a steelbook release similar to the European editions?
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:16 AM   #2327
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Is there any chance we get a steelbook release similar to the European editions?
If by 'we' you mean the United States, I would place those chances at about 0.000003%.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:41 AM   #2328
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Saw this last night! Effin yeah!

Loved the audio track too. So worth the 2 month wait until I could be back in the city and watching it on a good setup
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:06 PM   #2329
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Agreed. I don't understand the people who just don't get that most people want the original theatrical releases for the majority of their collections. It's the way the film was originally intended to look and sound and how people first saw it.

I have no problem with any director wanting to change his work, rework scenes, add new artwork, but they should always present this as a supplement to the original theatrical release.

It's not even a generational thing. I never experienced Terminator in theaters, I wasn't born then. I don't know the difference between the mono track and the 5.1 surround track. All I know is, there are people who heard the original track at some point, that it's the original audio track that was in theaters, and so they should have a choice of whether or not they want to listen to it or something else.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:37 PM   #2330
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As I have said before I like the 5.1 mix but of course the mono track should have been included.
What I don't get it that it seem's to be this release more than any other with this disagreement involving the audio.
I watched The Sting yesterday,a film which won 7 academy awards but the only English track on that was a dts hd-ma 5.1
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:43 PM   #2331
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Agreed. I don't understand the people who just don't get that most people want the original theatrical releases for the majority of their collections. It's the way the film was originally intended to look and sound and how people first saw it.

I have no problem with any director wanting to change his work, rework scenes, add new artwork, but they should always present this as a supplement to the original theatrical release.

It's not even a generational thing. I never experienced Terminator in theaters, I wasn't born then. I don't know the difference between the mono track and the 5.1 surround track. All I know is, there are people who heard the original track at some point, that it's the original audio track that was in theaters, and so they should have a choice of whether or not they want to listen to it or something else.
I'm not so sure about that. It seems the majority love extended and director's cut editions over the original theatrical release. Personally I tend to prefer the theatrical edition, but I feel that I'm in the minority.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:54 PM   #2332
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I'm not so sure about that. It seems the majority love extended and director's cut editions over the original theatrical release. Personally I tend to prefer the theatrical edition, but I feel that I'm in the minority.
Aside from the Lucas-loving Star Wars fans, I don't know of any films where people prefer altered/director's cuts. And even those that do would want to have the original theatrical cuts made available to everyone.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:55 PM   #2333
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my uk import just showed up

ill post some thoughts when im done watching it later
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Aside from the Lucas-loving Star Wars fans, I don't know of any films where people prefer altered/director's cuts. And even those that do would want to have the original theatrical cuts made available to everyone.
I can think of several. Lord of the Rings, Blade Runner, Army of Darkness, Aliens, etc.
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I'm not so sure about that. It seems the majority love extended and director's cut editions over the original theatrical release. Personally I tend to prefer the theatrical edition, but I feel that I'm in the minority.
Well, you should love the best version of the movie regardless of assigning labels to one or the other.

Most director's cuts, IMO, are better, because the studio interference in making changes or cuts for length truncate the character development/storylines. Typically, the director knows best, since they, after all, are the ones telling the story in the first place.
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Aside from the Lucas-loving Star Wars fans, I don't know of any films where people prefer altered/director's cuts. And even those that do would want to have the original theatrical cuts made available to everyone.
Brazil
Lord of the Rings Extended
Blade Runner
Kingdom Of Heaven
Once Upon a Time in America
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The Abyss
Watchmen
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Aside from the Lucas-loving Star Wars fans, I don't know of any films where people prefer altered/director's cuts. And even those that do would want to have the original theatrical cuts made available to everyone.
The LOTR trilogy is one set at the top of my head where people were complaining when the theatrical edition was released first.

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Well, you should love the best version of the movie regardless of assigning labels to one or the other.

Most director's cuts, IMO, are better, because the studio interference in making changes or cuts for length truncate the character development/storylines. Typically, the director knows best, since they, after all, are the ones telling the story in the first place.
That makes sense, but I usually don't remember all the scenes for me to judge the editions. I don't like swearing so usually the theatrical edition is fine by me.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:35 PM   #2338
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pq is pretty amazing as is the audio

i watched a few scenes from the sony release afterwards to compare and they cleaned up all the print damage in the remaster
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The LOTR trilogy is one set at the top of my head where people were complaining when the theatrical edition was released first.



That makes sense, but I usually don't remember all the scenes for me to judge the editions. I don't like swearing so usually the theatrical edition is fine by me.
Director's cut doesn't automatically mean more swearing.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:26 AM   #2340
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The LOTR trilogy is one set at the top of my head where people were complaining when the theatrical edition was released first
Yep. With LOTR the 'fans' wouldn't care if the multi-award-winning theatrical versions were never seen again, but with Star Wars all they want is the theatrical cuts!

I like being given the choice so I can make up my own mind. I'm old-fashioned like that.
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