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Old 01-19-2012, 10:15 AM   #21
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My passive LG 55LW4500 can do it, some stuff converts well. Watched a bit of starship troopers to test it and some of it was really good.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:56 AM   #22
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My passive LG 55LW4500 can do it, some stuff converts well. Watched a bit of starship troopers to test it and some of it was really good.
I've heard good things about space scenes. I forgot to mention that. I think the black background makes it easy for the telle to figure out what the objects are.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #23
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It seems to work on a similar theory to those polarized toy "spectrum" 3D glasses that always show up in Crayola kits--Which make dark colors and blacks recede into the background, while high-spectrum reds and yellows pop out.
Usually, when I have the set convert, I notice that a character wearing bright red or orange against a dark background will have his different parts of his clothes "separate" from his body, with his head at one depth and his shirt at the other.

(Back before B3D, we used to put on the toy Crayola glasses and watch Disney animated films, with the same color-separation "depth"...Although I haven't watched "Pocahontas" on the set conversion, and don't know whether it looks as good as it did with the glasses. )
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:42 AM   #24
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It's basically the TV's processor taking educated guesses as to what is supposed to be closer to the viewer, and then distorting the original image based on this info to create a "second eye" image.

There are many ways they try to determine this - color, as mentioned above, is one of them. So is general brightness/luminance, object size, speed and direction of movement, "overlap" with other objects, and the basic geometric shapes. It's usually hit or miss - with far more misses than hits. It's basically guaranteed to be less accurate than someone actually going in and using his brain, common sense, and often even input from the director. Plus any "painting in" they'll do for objects behind the ones they extrude is nonexistent or sloppy, leading to a lot of distortion around the edges of objects.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:44 AM   #25
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It's basically the TV's processor taking educated guesses as to what is supposed to be closer to the viewer, and then distorting the original image based on this info to create a "second eye" image.

There are many ways they try to determine this - color, as mentioned above, is one of them. So is general brightness/luminance, object size, speed and direction of movement, "overlap" with other objects, and the basic geometric shapes. It's usually hit or miss - with far more misses than hits. It's basically guaranteed to be less accurate than someone actually going in and using his brain, common sense, and often even input from the director. Plus any "painting in" they'll do for objects behind the ones they extrude is nonexistent or sloppy, leading to a lot of distortion around the edges of objects.
I love the 2D-3D conversion on the 2011 Samsung bluray players. When the Samsung 2012 BD Players came out, I sold my 2011 BD-D6700 Samsung BD Player because I was wanting the latest in 3D tech and specifically any improvements on the 2D-3D conversion

Unfortunately, I quickly came to realize that neither my shiny new BD-E6500 nor any of the BD players from Samsung in 2012 have 2D-3D as that feature has been cut in favor of others (disc to digital, web browser, etc.)

It seems that Samsung realized that cheaper BD players sell better (and they can't compete with PS3 price range) and therefore all of their bluray players seem/are cheaper this year. The highest end model is the 6500 at $200 while last year we had the higher end BD-D6700, D7000, D7500 all available initially from around $200-$300 and up

I have since sent back my 2012 E6500, and repurchased a 2011 Samsung D6700. Couldn't be happier now because, as I mentioned before, a lot of 3D enthusiasts believe that Samsung's 2011 2D-3D conversion is light years better (Object Based Depth Processing) than Panasonic, Sony's, or any other implementation of 2D-3D conversion

Thanks to Nielo TM over at AVForums:
"Samsung's 2D to 3D is quite amazing and it is pixel based

In comparison to simple 3D conversion where the image is horizontally split into three sections and placed in linier sequence (e.g. bottom section in front, middle section in middle and the top section set to back); the real-time 2D to 3D developed by Samsung (Object Based Depth Processing) functions by analyzing the input image and gathers (z) axis by decompiling the image to its individual pixels to process depth separation, which is achieved by scanning the frequency range of individual pixels as pixels with greater information (focused/detailed) have higher frequency range (bandwidth) then pixels that are blurred in the background, (along with pixel movement and pixel brightness). The processed data is then passed onto disparity optimization and L/R separation, which can be controlled by the user."


Many thought that the 2011 Samsung BD Player's 2D-3D conversion was the best, even rivaling or in some way's besting 3D Bee converters

Last year, I quickly noticed in a bluray comparison, that my D6700 bluray player easily bested my top of the line Samsung UND8000 3DTV in terms of the quality of the 2D-3D conversion being done. I don't know why, but the difference was huge for me

Perhaps it was because the pixel based conversion was done and presented in a nice & neat package before being ouput to the tv and you weren't having to watch/see the conversion being done on the fly while the tv tries to keep up in front of your eyes

For that reason, I used the tv's conversion very little, while using the 2D-3D feature on my BD Player on any fullscreen BD disc I rented/watched

Hope this helps
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:42 AM   #26
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The Samsung D7000 Plasma (which I own the 59 inch) converts 2D to 3D.

Secondly, the Samsung 6700 Bluray player converts 2D to 3D also (of which I own).
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:10 AM   #27
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yes!!!!! I just preordered the BDT310 due to the fact i also need the 1.3 and 1.4 outputs and the 300's are selling for $429 the 310's are $192
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:11 PM   #28
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We have a 3D Samsung (2012) and believe that it can convert 2d-3d. Is this the same feature that is found on some BluRay disc players? Therefore, is it completely necessary to look for that feature in a 3d Blu-Ray player? The model is the 7100 series.

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Old 12-27-2012, 12:01 AM   #29
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I have an Lg 55lm6200 and i can convert 2d to 3d, but it sucks. It is not the same as bluray 3d movies. Not the same at all!!!!
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:13 AM   #30
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I have an Lg 55lm6200 and i can convert 2d to 3d, but it sucks. It is not the same as bluray 3d movies. Not the same at all!!!!
It's never going to be the same no matter what you have,some may be better than other's at converting but at the end of the day,that is all you are doing,converting something rather than viewing something that is meant to be seen that way.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:27 AM   #31
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Not sure if there's already a thread for this but wanted everyone's input on this so we can fully enjoy the benefit of the 3D format since actual 3D Blu Rays are still fairly limited.This way we can add titles on this list that folks might not be even aware of and be able to check out on their own and enjoy the benefits of the conversion.Anyway,after going thru some titles i came across Transformers the Revenge of the Fallen and was pleasantly surprised how natural it looked!I would even say that it rivals some of the best 3D Blu Rays available.I used the conversion in the player itself which is the Oppo BDP-103.The depth within the Autobots and Decepticons were astonishing while maintaining the sharpness and detail of the images.No crosstalk whatsoever which was unbelievable.Please let us know of some other good to great conversions
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:55 AM   #32
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I havent gotten my 3D TV yet, but when I do, I'm going to try Kick-Ass, it might look great I plan on testing a lot of movies especially some good horror flicks.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:17 PM   #33
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:29 PM   #34
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the title is released in 3D lol
i was talking about titles in regular 2D that superbly converts to 3D.i just didn't want to go thru hundrerds of titles to find out which ones convert seamlessly to 3D.i will try the first Transformers later to see how it is.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:22 AM   #35
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the title is released in 3D lol
i was talking about titles in regular 2D that superbly converts to 3D.i just didn't want to go thru hundrerds of titles to find out which ones convert seamlessly to 3D.i will try the first Transformers later to see how it is.
Ahh OK with you now,in that case I don't bother with that button as I think it's crap basically.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #36
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I never convert with my 3DTV. Very rare does anything look to have any dimension, and that usually only lasts for 20 seconds. For example, when I first got the TV, I watched 'Fellowship of the Ring' for about 20 minutes. Only a small bit of Frodo jumping onto Gandalf's cart and sitting there with him looked 3D. Nothing before that.

I also tried converting HD episodes of 'NCIS', 'Game of Thrones', and 'Person of Interest' into 3D and noticed no change. After that I gave up completely.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:57 PM   #37
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I watched Star Trek (2009) a while ago, it looked ok.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:13 AM   #38
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Friend of mine said she was watching Iron Man 2 in 3D on a 3D blu-ray player (not sure which). I told her that it's impossible since Iron Man 2 is not 3D. She says that her blu-ray 3D player converts any blu-ray to 3D.

Someone please tell me she's been lied to.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:56 AM   #39
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:43 PM   #40
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Yes. It also converts VHS to 3D as well
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