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View Poll Results: Which Blu-ray edition of Predator has the better picture quality?
2008 barebones edition 654 52.36%
2010 Ultimate Hunter Edition 352 28.18%
Neither 243 19.46%
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:55 PM   #5481
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I popped my Ultimate Hunter Edition disc in today and realise I'm wayyyyyyyy less picky than you guys lol

I actually have no problem with it. It actually looks good to me. I fully enjoyed the movie and the DNR did not in any way ruin the movie. that's just ridiculous.

Love the movie, love Arnold, and no DNR is gonna change that!
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:07 PM   #5482
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I popped my Ultimate Hunter Edition disc in today and realise I'm wayyyyyyyy less picky than you guys lol

I actually have no problem with it. It actually looks good to me. I fully enjoyed the movie and the DNR did not in any way ruin the movie. that's just ridiculous.

Love the movie, love Arnold, and no DNR is gonna change that!
I don't think it looks good. Both versions look like crap IMO. The UHE is just the lesser of the two evils.

And yes, the first release does attempt to represent the original film elements better, but the MPEG2 codec simply doesn't allow this attempt to go far.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:11 PM   #5483
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I don't think it looks good. Both versions look like crap IMO. The UHE is just the lesser of the two evils.

And yes, the first release does attempt to represent the original film elements better, but the MPEG2 codec simply doesn't allow this attempt to go far.
It goes further than the DNR and boosted contrast disaster.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:15 PM   #5484
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It goes further than the DNR and boosted contrast disaster.
No it doesn't.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:24 AM   #5485
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I popped my Ultimate Hunter Edition disc in today and realise I'm wayyyyyyyy less picky than you guys lol

I actually have no problem with it. It actually looks good to me. I fully enjoyed the movie and the DNR did not in any way ruin the movie. that's just ridiculous.

Love the movie, love Arnold, and no DNR is gonna change that!
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:39 AM   #5486
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It doesn't have time to bleed. It has to frustrate almost every blu-ray.com member first.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:57 AM   #5487
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No it doesn't.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:43 AM   #5488
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I don't think it looks good. Both versions look like crap IMO. The UHE is just the lesser of the two evils.

And yes, the first release does attempt to represent the original film elements better, but the MPEG2 codec simply doesn't allow this attempt to go far.
So something that is contrast boosted and has extensive DNR which not only gives everything a very clean artificial waxy look which takes a back seat on fine detail, but the film's cinematography has been altered as well to the point that scenes that are meant to be taken place at night look like they are shot in the day, that is the lesser of 2 evils compared to the 2008 release which stays faithful to the orignal film elements but just comes up technologically short?

I don't understand that logic..
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:45 AM   #5489
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There are scenes in the UHE that actually shine imo. The jungle scenes in particulare are very vibrant and more alive. The opening scene is horrid though.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:50 AM   #5490
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There are scenes in the UHE that actually shine imo. The jungle scenes in particulare are very vibrant and more alive. The opening scene is horrid though.
The jungle is not meant to be vibrant and shiny place that looks like a video game, its meant to be a dirty gritty jungle. The 2008 release captures that feel while also pleasing the eye with some good colours and some strong detail. Being faithful to the source is more important then trying to artificially gives the illusion of a better looking image with digital tricky.
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the jungle is not meant to be vibrant and shiny place that looks like a video game, its meant to be a dirty gritty jungle. The 2008 release captures that feel while also pleasing the eye with some good colours and some strong detail. Being faithful to the source is more important then trying to artificially gives the illusion of a better looking image with digital tricky.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:55 AM   #5492
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This is one of my all time favorite bluray a because the DNR is so bad it's absolutely hilarious.

I appreciate this disc from the perspective as to how badly something can go wrong.
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:56 AM   #5493
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There are scenes in the UHE that actually shine imo. The jungle scenes in particulare are very vibrant and more alive. The opening scene is horrid though.
That might be a good look for a nature documentary. But that is not the look of Predator's theatrical color timing, which is murky and drenched in deep shadows.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:10 AM   #5494
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The jungle is not meant to be vibrant and shiny place that looks like a video game, its meant to be a dirty gritty jungle. The 2008 release captures that feel while also pleasing the eye with some good colours and some strong detail. Being faithful to the source is more important then trying to artificially gives the illusion of a better looking image with digital tricky.
Not to be misunderstood, I do enjoy the 2008 release MUCH more than the UHE. I guess the way I should've rephrased that is...if I had to find some merit in the UHE, it would be the jungle scenes. I actually do enjoy them. The overall transfer is a mess though. The 2008 release while not perfect is much more consistent.
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Both releases certainly have their problems. For the original release, it's compression and a pitiful bitrate...for the UHE, it's DNR overload and contrast boosting. In screenshots, both stand out like a sore thumb. In motion, the UHE's problems are far more noticeable. Artifacts come and go from moment to moment...they're relatively easy to miss or tune out. The DNR is just there, and it's not going anywhere.
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Does anybody reckon fox will add this film to their film maker signature series this year and do a new director's approved transfer, i hope so but it's unlikely, fingers crossed.
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Does anybody reckon fox will add this film to their film maker signature series this year and do a new director's approved transfer, i hope so but it's unlikely, fingers crossed.
I'm sure we'll see, yet, another release, sometime, but I'd bet it will be another couple of years, at least.
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Does anybody reckon fox will add this film to their film maker signature series this year and do a new director's approved transfer, i hope so but it's unlikely, fingers crossed.
Depends on McTiernan since the Filmmamker's Signature Series has involved the director of each title personally.
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In case anyone is wondering, despite what it says in the database (I have corrected the listing but my corrections have not yet gone through), 20th Century Fox's Own the Moments double feature of Predator and Predator 2 includes the old release of Predator, and not the UHE. It was only $7.88 at my local Walmart, so I picked it up.

If this info was already posted, since this 2-disc set is pretty old, sorry.
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In case anyone is wondering, despite what it says in the database (I have corrected the listing but my corrections have not yet gone through), 20th Century Fox's Own the Moments double feature of Predator and Predator 2 includes the old release of Predator, and not the UHE. It was only $7.88 at my local Walmart, so I picked it up.

If this info was already posted, since this 2-disc set is pretty old, sorry.
That's a good deal. Beats the $15 or so I paid for the 2008 release and $10 Predator 2.
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