Panasonic Halts Plasma R&D?

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by lghaze42

For those of you who think OLED's are expensive check out Panasonic's 152" 4K plasma.With features not available on any of their other plasma tv's it sales for $500,000.Plasma is not dead, but costs nore than OLED in bigger screen sizes.

Now see, why the hell even build that? No wonder Panasonic is in financial trouble! Geez what a waste of resources.

[lghaze42]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Now see, why the hell even build that? No wonder Panasonic is in financial trouble! Geez what a waste of resources.

They only build one when it is sold.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by lghaze42

They only build one when it is sold.

Well duh! I should have realized that!

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

Originally Posted by lghaze42

For those of you who think OLED's are expensive check out Panasonic's 152" 4K plasma.With features not available on any of their other plasma tv's it sales for $500,000.Plasma is not dead, but costs nore than OLED in bigger screen sizes.

in all fairness though, the 55" oled from lg is 10k...this is 3x the size almost w/ 4x the resolution.

[MasterSandman]

Originally Posted by ImStylinOnYaBro

in all fairness though, the 55" oled from lg is 10k...this is 3x the size almost w/ 4x the resolution.

I read that Samsung and LG have faced problems while developing their OLED displays and Panasonic could team up with Sony to create one. It looks like Panasonic will stop trying to improve the displays but continue to produce them...I can't see OLED displays being affordable by next year. I guess we'll see.

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[Pondosinatra]

Actually I remember Sony coming out with an OLED display what seems like ages ago. It was super small - 24"??? - and super expensive. I remember a big deal being made out of it by all the Sound & Vision type mags back then.

As far as I know nothing was put out by them since.

The technology simply isn't feasible otherwise the technology would be common place today.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

I've often wondered just what ARE the monumental advantages of OLED over the top of the line plasmas that all manufacturers are so keen to jump on board to develop? Yes I know they're thinner and I assume they consume less energy. However what about off angle viewing, motion resolution, black levels, image retention, etc? Are they a lot cheaper to manufacture? Do they somehow produce more accurate color? Why is this technology so highly regarded?

Their advantage is...everything. Infinite angle, perfect motion resolution, zero concept black levels, etc.

I remember ten years ago checking out the amazing 61" PureVision plasma from Pioneer and it was CDN$11,000!!!! Now you can get a 60" GT50 plasma for 1/10th of that.

Ten years from now I'm sure we'll be able to pick up a 60" OLED without breaking the bank that will utterly eviscerate any TV produced today or within the last 30 years.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Actually I remember Sony coming out with an OLED display what seems like ages ago. It was super small - 24"??? - and super expensive. I remember a big deal being made out of it by all the Sound & Vision type mags back then.

As far as I know nothing was put out by them since.

The technology simply isn't feasible otherwise the technology would be common place today.

It was 11" I think, had 480 lines of resolution or something DVD-like, and had a lifespan rating of only 30,000 hours I think. Price was $2,500? It was pretty sweet to look at, but you've got to be stupid-rich to have bought one of those.

[dmaul1114]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Their advantage is...everything. Infinite angle, perfect motion resolution, zero concept black levels, etc.

I remember ten years ago checking out the amazing 61" PureVision plasma from Pioneer and it was CDN$11,000!!!! Now you can get a 60" GT50 plasma for 1/10th of that.

Ten years from now I'm sure we'll be able to pick up a 60" OLED without breaking the bank that will utterly eviscerate any TV produced today or within the last 30 years.

Yep. That's the nature of technology.

Heck, I'd be happy just to get the picture of the best plasma with no worries about IR so I can watch ESPN/have it on in the background for hours on end with no worries etc. (something I'll have to stop doing when I get my 55" Panasonic UT50 plasma Monday).

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Their advantage is...everything. Infinite angle, perfect motion resolution, zero concept black levels, etc.

I remember ten years ago checking out the amazing 61" PureVision plasma from Pioneer and it was CDN$11,000!!!! Now you can get a 60" GT50 plasma for 1/10th of that.

Ten years from now I'm sure we'll be able to pick up a 60" OLED without breaking the bank that will utterly eviscerate any TV produced today or within the last 30 years.

Agreed. I think im in the perfect time for upgrading tv. OLED and 4k are starting to come out and are bonkers expensive...but in 5-6 years, possibly longer when i decide to upgrade my plasma, oled 4k will prob ably be a bit expensive, but a hell of a lot more affordable than now.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

It was 11" I think, had 480 lines of resolution or something DVD-like, and had a lifespan rating of only 30,000 hours I think. Price was $2,500? It was pretty sweet to look at, but you've got to be stupid-rich to have bought one of those.

The issue with OLED that I'm not hearing much about is the inherent breakdown of the technology due to it's organic nature. I know sometime back I read that the biggest hurdle manufacturers were going to have with it is to manufacture these displays with acceptable reliability. I'm sure as hell not going to spend thousands on a TV only to have it breakdown in 5 years. Plus with the displays breaking down over time, does that mean the PQ itself slowly degrades over time as well? If they can't get these issues solved...not minimized...solved, then all this new technology is a moot point with me.

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

The issue with OLED that I'm not hearing much about is the inherent breakdown of the technology due to it's organic nature. I know sometime back I read that the biggest hurdle manufacturers were going to have with it is to manufacture these displays with acceptable reliability. I'm sure as hell not going to spend thousands on a TV only to have it breakdown in 5 years. Plus with the displays breaking down over time, does that mean the PQ itself slowly degrades over time as well? If they can't get these issues solved...not minimized...solved, then all this new technology is a moot point with me.

365 days x 10 hrs a day 3650 * 8 is around 30k hours. i saw someone else post 30k hours is the life span, i watch less than 10 hours of tv a day..but yeah, if hte pic quality breaks down with each diode, that is not acceptable...who wants to invest such money when not only will it die fairly soon, but the quality diminishes as well?

[thedarkknight13]

That's a bummer. We just recently went TV shopping and picked up a Samsung Plasma. We considered getting a Panasonic but decided the size wasn't right for out situation. In hindsight I'm glad we got the Samsung. I have been watching on a LCD screen for the last 4 years and I never really liked how bright the screen looked. The Plasma looks much better to my eyes. I did noticed LED screens but the prices were a bit more expensive, I'm assuming by next time I go TV shopping that the Plasma will be gone and LED will be priced down.

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

Originally Posted by thedarkknight13

That's a bummer. We just recently went TV shopping and picked up a Samsung Plasma. We considered getting a Panasonic but decided the size wasn't right for out situation. In hindsight I'm glad we got the Samsung. I have been watching on a LCD screen for the last 4 years and I never really liked how bright the screen looked. The Plasma looks much better to my eyes. I did noticed LED screens but the prices were a bit more expensive, I'm assuming by next time I go TV shopping that the Plasma will be gone and LED will be priced down.

what model samsung did u pick up ?

[Clock]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

The issue with OLED that I'm not hearing much about is the inherent breakdown of the technology due to it's organic nature.

That's why I'm more excited about the crystal LED display.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-theat...oled-sets/5578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dxXUtx2RN0

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

Originally Posted by Clock

That's why I'm more excited about the crystal LED display.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-theat...oled-sets/5578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dxXUtx2RN0

pretty cool stuff, i never heard of that display type before.

[dobyblue]

Plasma displays weren't always rated at 100,000 hours until 1/2 brightness either, by the time we're all buying OLED the lifespan will have increased for sure.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by ImStylinOnYaBro

pretty cool stuff, i never heard of that display type before.

Yeah this could have real potential. Along with their crystal led technology, Sony is also working on glasses-free 3D. If Sony can release this set with 4K AND glasses-free 3D, holy $hit!!

The thing with Sony though, as much as I love their TV's they have GOT to find a way to get more competitive price wise! Their TV's are nice but their competitors are smoking them on sticker price! And the quality difference just isn't large enough to most consumers to justify spending the extra cash.

[thedarkknight13]

Originally Posted by ImStylinOnYaBro

what model samsung did u pick up ?

Hey,

We ended up getting a Samsung 43" Plasma 450 Series TV. It was to place above our fire place wall mount. Even though it is 720p I think the picture is excellent and sitting back 13 ft we agreed that we couldn't tell a difference between 720p and 1080p 43" and under. The price was amazing and we walked away well under budget.

I'm happy with the decision so far. We already have a Olevia 47'' 1080p LCD TV that we got 4 years ago so we have a couple options at our house and a bigger TV wasn't the main factor in the purchase.

I'm currently looking for a Blu-Ray Player because I want to purchase one next week. My requirements are minimal as all I want is to be able to watch a disc. I'm looking for <$100 price range. I have read good reviews on the Sony Model: BDPS390. If some one good reply or send me a PM regarding choosing a Blue-Ray player I would appreciate it. I left a reply in the "Help" thread without a response yet and time is running out until I go to Best Buy.

Sorry, a little off topic...

Thanks!

[Blu Doon]

Originally Posted by thedarkknight13

Hey,

We ended up getting a Samsung 43" Plasma 450 Series TV. It was to place above our fire place wall mount. Even though it is 720p I think the picture is excellent and sitting back 13 ft we agreed that we couldn't tell a difference between 720p and 1080p 43" and under. The price was amazing and we walked away well under budget.

I'm happy with the decision so far. We already have a Olevia 47'' 1080p LCD TV that we got 4 years ago so we have a couple options at our house and a bigger TV wasn't the main factor in the purchase.

I'm currently looking for a Blu-Ray Player because I want to purchase one next week. My requirements are minimal as all I want is to be able to watch a disc. I'm looking for <$100 price range. I have read good reviews on the Sony Model: BDPS390. If some one good reply or send me a PM regarding choosing a Blue-Ray player I would appreciate it. I left a reply in the "Help" thread without a response yet and time is running out until I go to Best Buy.

Sorry, a little off topic...

Thanks!

nice! I love the 43inch samsung plasmas great bang for the buck! I have one myself 2011 model I will warn you I did have to get the panel replaced a couple of times in the 1st year so I would recommend the extended warranty