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Old 01-10-2013, 05:02 AM   #141
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Not quite sure, I think a quicker pace maybe?? I think slow pace and too many slooooooow motion shots turned me off. Storyline was good and so was the acting.

Ian B
I was thinking about the slower pace at times also, which goes with the theme of the "Slow Motion potion", and though I still enjoy the film, I see what you're saying about a faster pace to help make the film feel more exciting.

One other improvement I think might be worth seeing, would be adding more serious challenges for Dredd to amp up the danger a notch, similar to the scene where
[Show spoiler] they fire at him with the gattling guns and he has to crawl after running to avoid the shots. That really pushed his character, so he wasn't always standing vertical and made him break a sweat for a change, the first time he wasn't really in control of the situation.


Dredd reminds me of RoboCop, who is mainly a vertical character, almost like Swarzenegger's Terminator. When he's attacked, he can take cover, but most of the time won't feel the need to jump for cover. Dredd is usually always in control, and one step ahead of the enemies, so the audience rarely feels he's in major danger against the common citizens. The twist at the end
[Show spoiler]with the Judges added a better challenge for him.
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the pace was too slow???? were we watching the same movie? i mean a flick can always have faster pacing, but i think dredd was paced just fine. i was never bored or drifting.

peeps around here might want to increase the dosage on their adhd meds.

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Old 01-10-2013, 05:21 AM   #143
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the pace was too slow???? were we watching the same movie? i mean a flick can always have faster pacing, but i think dredd was paced just fine. i was never bored or drifting.

peeps around here might want to increase the dosage on their adhd meds.

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:07 AM   #144
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I really enjoyed this movie but the 3D is not good imo, had to switch to 2D after about 40 minutes in and was enjoying it much more.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:43 PM   #145
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In theaters, no, I didn't see anything go past any black borders, but that would have been nice.
I saw that when I saw it theatrically in 3D. It's only one shot and the aspect ratio actually changed subtly to accomodate the effect. I know because I was looking for it when I saw it in theaters as I'd seen a 2D clip of the same scene with the same effect of the blood over black matte bar.

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Old 01-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #146
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I saw that when I saw it theatrically in 3D. It's only one shot and the aspect ratio actually changed subtly to accomodate the effect. I know because I was looking for it when I saw it in theaters as I'd seen a 2D clip of the same scene with the same effect of the blood over black matte bar.
Glad to hear it was actually in the theatrical experience. It would definitely add maximum negative-parallax potential for the 3D Stereoscopic image which would look to appear in front of the screen plane like it is hitting the audience.
Black bars are one of the most effective tools that can be used for a 2.40:1 aspect ratio features for pop-out illusion. Might as well take advantage of them. Most people have seen the results with the popular "Despicable Me 2" trailer where the one-eyed minion blows on a party-favor that goes out over the audience.

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I really enjoyed this movie but the 3D is not good imo, had to switch to 2D after about 40 minutes in and was enjoying it much more.
I viewed the movie a third time, this time using a discrete 3D - separate R&L image device. Every scene/view reveals 100%- 3D separation a-la native-3D. But when using my active 3D set, some scenes looked flat, the only reason I can think of is that discrete 3D gives every illusion full mastery.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #147
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Video quality wasn't that great. The film grain got annoying, so it took a while to get use to. The grain was different for the left/right eyes, so even it looked 3D. It made the film look too soft and a little blurry. I understand that is the effect they were after. It is a good movie with pretty sweet 3D shots, however.
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Video quality wasn't that great. The film grain got annoying, so it took a while to get use to. The grain was different for the left/right eyes, so even it looked 3D. It made the film look too soft and a little blurry. I understand that is the effect they were after. It is a good movie with pretty sweet 3D shots, however.
It's not film grain but video noise and it is most prevalent in the low light scenes. So it's not so much an intended effect as simply a limitation of the cameras used.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:05 PM   #149
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watched it yesterday....to me its a mixed bag! 3D consistentcy was varying wildly. I was not overly impressed with the slowmo shots but they were cool. I usually hate that aspect ratio for 3D but on my 150" screen i am beginning to enjoy scope format.

The story and acting were good....much better purchase than the crappy Resident Evil.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:09 AM   #150
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I viewed the movie a third time, this time using a discrete 3D - separate R&L image device. Every scene/view reveals 100%- 3D separation a-la native-3D. But when using my active 3D set, some scenes looked flat, the only reason I can think of is that discrete 3D gives every illusion full mastery.
Sounds good. That is a nice option to enhance the flatter shots with your RL 3D Device. Is it also hooked up to your 3DTV or separate projection?

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Video quality wasn't that great. The film grain got annoying, so it took a while to get use to. The grain was different for the left/right eyes, so even it looked 3D. It made the film look too soft and a little blurry. I understand that is the effect they were after. It is a good movie with pretty sweet 3D shots, however.
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It's not film grain but video noise and it is most prevalent in the low light scenes. So it's not so much an intended effect as simply a limitation of the cameras used.
Glad you mentioned the video quality. Video noise and color bleeding into the dark seemed to be common at times based on the video-like footage with certain camera shots as you mentioned.
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Watched Dredd last night and through the whole movie all I could think was that there was no way he could see through that stupid helmet.
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Watched it last night and IMO, the slow mo effect was overused. I am with the other members that it affected the flow of the movie.

The 3d was okay but I prefer 3D movies in 16:9, I get more immersed into the movie with this aspect. Some of the 3D effects were cool but I prefer the depth you get in 16:9 with my setup.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:11 PM   #153
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Watched it last night and IMO, the slow mo effect was overused. I am with the other members that it affected the flow of the movie.
In defense I have to say that the slow motion effect was used only in the scenes of illegal slo mo use. More details in my post#759 on the Dredd 3D (2012) - Jan. 22, 2013 Pre-order thread.

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In defense I have to say that the slow motion effect was used only in the scenes of illegal slo mo use. More details in my post#759 on the Dredd 3D (2012) - Jan. 22, 2013 Pre-order thread.

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I am glad you enjoyed that effect but I still didn't like it but I can see your point of view. While watching the movie I understood the slo mo drug and really didn't have to see it from that point of view. I bought the movie thinking it would be amazing after reading all the reviews here, even one where they said it was better than Avengers. Yeah right. But everyone has their opinions.
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I am glad you enjoyed that effect but I still didn't like it but I can see your point of view. While watching the movie I understood the slo mo drug and really didn't have to see it from that point of view. I bought the movie thinking it would be amazing after reading all the reviews here, even one where they said it was better than Avengers. Yeah right. But everyone has their opinions.
Just for a change they should have shot the whole movie in slow mo...it would not have felt any different in terms of current pacing

That helmet comment is hilarious

All in all I feel I have wasted my money on this and Resident evil.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:16 PM   #156
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While watching the movie I understood the slo mo drug and really didn't have to see it from that point of view...... everyone has their opinions.
Agreed. FYI: My son has the same opinion about the movie having too many slow motion scenes as you, but I sure liked them.

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Old 01-11-2013, 08:46 PM   #157
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Just an FYI redbox has the 3D/2D combo disc available for rent,
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:43 PM   #158
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Watched it yesterday thought it was great.
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Reading the comments here and in other threads, it appears many more people liked it than didn't. I find that telling enough. I thoroughly enjoyed it and hopefully a sequel expanding the universe comes as a result of BD sales.
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Sounds good. That is a nice option to enhance the flatter shots with your RL 3D Device. Is it also hooked up to your 3DTV or separate projection?
Speaking of "enhancing the flatter shots", have to say that a component that has truly spoiled me and that I find I cannot watch 3D movies without some-kind of disappointment on any of the capable 3D displays/PCs I have, is optimizing the curve with the additional Darbee visual presence that I have mentioned in a couple of other threads here in the past. It enhances realistic depth on any 3D source I use. IMO, It needs to become an internal accessory on every future 3D display rig. I have it permanently set on "Full POP" @ 40% for 3D viewing, which I find produces spectacular 3D depth enhancement without noticeable added picture artifacting. It has become essential for any optimum 3D rendering.

Have three units, one for each HDMI source I own. The units are that effective!

Getting back to the movie, the native-3D Dredd creates all the visual information necessary which sets it among the best native-3D movies I own and not hesitating to say that the video data present with the special effects puts it in the same 3D immersive league as Hugo, and I personally find the story more entertaining.

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