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Old 01-09-2013, 03:16 AM   #681
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It will have to be some sort of USB device/thumbdrive.

Small portable and marketable, just need to store more than 1TB

Here you go

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And that was my point with Chevypower (in the other 4k thread) he just did not want to grasp that 4k films would need a hell of a lot of disk space for anyone that actually collects films.
You think you're the only one who collects films? Some people don't mind buying hard drives
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:38 AM   #683
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You think you're the only one who collects films? Some people don't mind buying hard drives
Maybe studios could subsidize and market the hard drives. Imagine a WB passport with their exclusive content.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:58 AM   #684
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It will have to be some sort of USB device/thumbdrive.

Small portable and marketable, just need to store more than 1TB

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8i__...layer_embedded
Check the price on that one (and it's 1TB sibling) and you'll see it's not even an option.

Flash is much more expensive that physical media. BD is the most viable platform right now.
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I dont want to upgrade to 4K discs i've just started collecting blu rays so i cant see myself buying another format.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #686
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The ITU and ISO/IEC haven’t yet officially finalized HEVC in terms of declaring it a standard.
So here's the bottleneck really... hurry up!
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Another year & no 4k blu ray, even so I will not pay $20,000 for a 4k TV
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Look like no 4KBD for a long while-

http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/e...videos/8946270

Makes the whole 4K thing usless to me.
Well, I tried to adjust your expectations in regards to counting on an announcement at CES for a 4K disc with increased space and 4K specifications.

Don’t feel badly Sap, this is a process which demands patience, because for one thing, there are many players involved. The good thing is that 4K was undeniably ‘thee topic” of CES 2013. Several consumer electronics companies introduced 4K tvs (and not just behemoth sizes) and with all the inherent marketing spiel, they now have a substantial vested interest/investment in the format, i.e. UHD. The onus is now on the content creators and providers to come through and offer native 4K to really make the C.E. companies’ respective 4K displays shine to their greatest potential.

Even, the marketing of the “Mastered in 4K” has an upside , despite the fact that some emphasize it as being a *ploy* to unwary consumers, for, even it, enhances the visibility of ‘4K’ which may well have filmmakers and producers now thinking twice as to settling for anything less than 4K acquisition and 4K post, if they desire to have their creations be as *future-proof* as possible.

i.e….Uninformed producer to other uninformed producer –

“Hey, there’s a major Hollywood studio that is offering “Mastered in 4K” Blu-rays now to consumers in their home to watch on their Blu-ray players and you still think we shouldn’t pop a little extra dough for a 4K D.I. since the D.P. has already chosen the RED Epic, Sony F65, etc. to shoot with?”
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So here's the bottleneck really... hurry up!
Major work has been accomplished. Some tweaking now…
http://phenix.int-evry.fr/jct/

HEVC should be ready to be ratified as a Standard no later than this Spring.
If there is a bottleneck, that will be the BDA.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:12 PM   #690
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Another year & no 4k blu ray, even so I will not pay $20,000 for a 4k TV
Tell the Chinese that (bolded)...you might be surprised as to their price offerings from the get-go.

In regards to the traditional Japanese consumer electronics companies, and past history, for one example, see ….
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....ia#post6639117
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So here's the bottleneck really... hurry up!
politics is always a bottleneck
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Penton man, thanks for Man City comment, somehow missed it until now.

Must be all this 4k excitement!
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Penton man, thanks for Man City comment, somehow missed it until now.

Must be all this 4k excitement!
Well, I must admit that when I looked into my crystal ball, I never saw that result coming over City plus, over the course of time, you’ve turned me into somewhat of a Sunderland supporter . I really feel for all you guys who fight near the bottom of the table in order to stay out of the relegation zone. It’s especially much more interesting this year than the top of the table where I think Man United has already run away with the title.

Speaking of my crystal ball…but in regards to HEVC and 4K (practical 4K hardware solutions for commercially viable data rates, that is). I dislike making timeline predictions because they often are dependent upon multiple factors, of which neither I, nor anyone else for that matter, has control over. But if I had to comment, I would say that with sample silicon available right now, then systemization of said silicon should be available in the first half of 2014 to all those companies wishing to build their respective video decoder boxes and players.

If the engineers can figure it out, software based solutions will be available even earlier. Good recent implementation analysis paper covering many aspects… http://www.hhi.fraunhofer.de/fileadm...Complexity.pdf

Of course, all this is pending the upstream politics gets sorted out, which I think it will (through the MPEG LA), despite the somewhat gloomy outlook of this article…
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-574...-in-september/
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:13 PM   #694
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Hi guys,

Do you guys think that 4k will be implemented on tv's smaller than 60"? Say the 40 - 50" range? Or was that a blatant wishful thinking?
No size monitor is really too small....if the viewer is willing to take advantage of the increased resolution by adjusting his viewing position...

http://gizmodo.com/5975022/sharps-32...o-a-real-thing
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Penton man, good to hear you are rooting for us. Would you be surprised to learn that we recently came 10th in a poll of most successful clubs in English football? They worked it out as trophies won plus time spent in top division. We have won six league titles, two FA cups and have had well over 80 years in the top division in our history.

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Well, I tried to adjust your expectations in regards to counting on an announcement at CES for a 4K disc with increased space and 4K specifications.

Don’t feel badly Sap, this is a process which demands patience, because for one thing, there are many players involved. The good thing is that 4K was undeniably ‘thee topic” of CES 2013. Several consumer electronics companies introduced 4K tvs (and not just behemoth sizes) and with all the inherent marketing spiel, they now have a substantial vested interest/investment in the format, i.e. UHD. The onus is now on the content creators and providers to come through and offer native 4K to really make the C.E. companies’ respective 4K displays shine to their greatest potential.

Even, the marketing of the “Mastered in 4K” has an upside , despite the fact that some emphasize it as being a *ploy* to unwary consumers, for, even it, enhances the visibility of ‘4K’ which may well have filmmakers and producers now thinking twice as to settling for anything less than 4K acquisition and 4K post, if they desire to have their creations be as *future-proof* as possible.

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“Hey, there’s a major Hollywood studio that is offering “Mastered in 4K” Blu-rays now to consumers in their home to watch on their Blu-ray players and you still think we shouldn’t pop a little extra dough for a 4K D.I. since the D.P. has already chosen the RED Epic, Sony F65, etc. to shoot with?”
Yeah i really got my hopes up. I took what you said as a definitive yes.

Whatever. I hope they take the time and choose the right standards. I guess no 4KBD in PS4? They could use it to stream 4K actually.
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A look a Sony's 4K OLED-

http://ces.cnet.com/1606-34451_1-50138470.html

My next TV purchase and true upgrade from my kuro. When do you guys think 4K OLED TV's will be available? I'm guessing 2015 or 16. Or even later since i want to buy 70" and up.

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Patrick-Pierre says UHD is not 4K-


I agree with him but there are reasons why it's not true 4K that's explained really good in this post from AVS-

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1451171/wh...#post_22816160

They're calling it 4K because it sounds good.
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Penton man, good to hear you are rooting for us. Would you be surprised to learn that we recently came 10th in a poll of most successful clubs in English football?...
I am truly surprised as I had no idea.
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...I guess no 4KBD in PS4?
Depends on industry support.
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