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Old 08-08-2009, 04:21 AM   #21
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speaking of which ILM pipeline, has been on 4k..
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:57 AM   #22
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Well Michael Bay said that the IMAX scenes with Transformers in them in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen were the first characters rendered in 4K. He is slightly wrong being that that most of the CGI rendered for The Dark Knight including Batman were done in 5.6K by Double Negative.
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:32 AM   #23
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The CGI in IMAX portions in Transformers ROTF were rendered in 8K.
And I'm quite sure the same is true for The Dark Knight's IMAX portions too.
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:05 AM   #24
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No Double Negative said they rendered it in 5.6K then upscaled to 8K for the IMAX prints. 8K is way too much work for the rendering farm they would have. And Michael Bay himself said that Devestator's IMAX scenes were rendered in 4K.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:39 PM   #25
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My bad indeed it was rendered in 4k.
Sheesh, and that actually blew up the farm!
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Old 08-08-2009, 11:13 PM   #26
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the CGI rendered for The Dark Knight including Batman were done in 5.6K by Double Negative.
5.6k ? whats up with that, why not have an even number ?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:35 PM   #27
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I found this online:

The term "High Definition" refers to a certain number of vertical lines of resolution in an image (720 and 1080 being the most common). Because 35mm technically has no "resolution," it cannot be called "High Definition." That does not mean High Definition is better. It is just a term that does not apply to 35mm film.
From a filmmaker's perspective, High Definition offers many advantages. You don't have to wait for the film to be processed; you can upload it to a computer and begin editing that very day. But which one produces a better-looking image? That's the debate.


Is that fair to say?
From a filming purpose, 35mm is exceeds the data capture capability of HD. The problem with 35mm is that there are numerous variables that reduce the amount of data that is present on the actually movie screen. So it would be in fact possible to actually see more data on a 1080p HDTV of a 35mm 4K scan.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:12 PM   #28
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These are a couple of excellent articles, with graphical representations of key issues, that should help most folks understand this topic better:

'4K+ Systems - Theory Basics for Motion Picture Imaging'
http://archiv.arri.de/4kplus-systems/index.htm

'The Truth About 2K, 4K and The Future of Pixels'
http://library.creativecow.net/print.php?id=1261

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These are a couple of excellent articles, with graphical representations of key issues, that should help most folks understand this topic better:

'4K+ Systems - Theory Basics for Motion Picture Imaging'
http://archiv.arri.de/4kplus-systems/index.htm

'The Truth About 2K, 4K and The Future of Pixels'
http://library.creativecow.net/print.php?id=1261

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
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Useless, technically garbage.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:04 PM   #30
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Slingblade hasn't had his fries yet today!
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:12 AM   #31
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Useless, technically garbage.
You really are quite the sarcastic fellow , both in your tone and in your expression….

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You were informed wrong.

Also, 4K 3D at 24 fps has NEVER, EVER. EVER been done as of yet.
^ On the contrary, it’s been done through 2 servers and even only one (over a year ago)… http://magazine.creativecow.net/arti...-single-server

Not to mention non-publicized demos.
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These are a couple of excellent articles, with graphical representations of key issues, that should help most folks understand this topic better:

'4K+ Systems - Theory Basics for Motion Picture Imaging'
http://archiv.arri.de/4kplus-systems/index.htm
Alan, as to the above ^ , indeed...and even award winning

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....te#post6773074
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Alan, as to the above ^ , indeed...and even award winning

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....te#post6773074
Thanks for the link!
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Thanks for the link!
You’re welcome.

Showing that his imaging interests aren't solely restricted to resolution, back near the end of the last decade, he also did some respectable work regarding a simple method to measure dynamic range -

http://www.visionaryforces.com/downl...est-Charts.pdf
Something which digital camera manufacturers have had a tendency to ‘fudge on’….at least in the past.
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