The Jungle Book - Diamond Edition - 2014

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by The Mad Kiwi

It raises the question of just what the heck The Fox and the Hound's camera aperature ratio was. From One Hundred and One Dalmatians up to The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, it seems clear the films were filmed in 1.33:1 and then matted theatrically to 1.75:1. In Fox's case, however, it almost looks like we're getting some weird spin-off of Super35 where both the 1.33:1 ratio and the 1.66:1 ratio lose information. What's going on there?

As to keep this post on-topic, while I'd like for Jungle Book (and the other 60s/70s films) to have both versions on disc, I support the widescreen presentation as that's how it was seen theatrically.

Just like the good ol' days of DVD . You know what's sad? The sets with both Widescreen and Fullscreen in one release were the best DVDs

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by yumny

Wow, that's ridiculous! I didn't even notice that while watching the movie on BD..

Well, now do you hear me when I say "printing the whole aperture" isn't a good idea for The Jungle Book? Why not just stick with what was intended for theaters? If it was good enough for Walt, it should be good enough for you, even if Walt protected for future TV airings.

[Dubstar]

who wants to make a bet the commentary track on the prior DVD edition wont get ported over to the bluray edition?

[The Mad Kiwi]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

who wants to make a bet the commentary track on the prior DVD edition wont get ported over to the bluray edition?

Not me. Disney has yet to drop a DVD commentary for a film on Blu-ray unless they recorded a new one to replace it (like Dumbo and Sleeping Beauty). Commentaries seem to be the one safe supplement in the transfer from DVD to BD. I am willing to bet, though, that we won't get any sort of gallery on this release.

[disneyfreak]

I just want to know if Disney is using the Platinum transfer or not. They claim its a "all new digital restoration" for pan. If it really even is a new restoration.

[Mason_Ireton]

Originally Posted by Zot!

Is this a notorious complainer like myself? Honestly, long story short, it would be nice to have a version that takes advantage of widescreen TVs as well as a version that shows all the artwork. Instead of the typical "Baloo's dance steps" type of extras they usually throw on things, why not something interesting and respectful. It would also add some variety for those of us who are asked to watch this repeatedly by demanding toddlers.

Zot did you not purchase the Platinum Edition?? it has some serious extras


Terry Gilkyson's Orignal Score/Songs

Disney's Kipling: Explored the difference between the Kipling novels, Bill Peet's draft and the Final Jungle Book.


Commentary with Richard Sherman/Bruce Ritherman (Wolfgang Ritherman's son) and Andreas Dejas (Animator of Scar/Jafar)


Rocky The Rhino: A semi comic friend of the Vultures, he was to be voiced by Frank Fontaine who played Crazy Guggenheim on Jackie Gleason Show

The Lure Of Jungle Book: Various animators/Film Historians discuss how Jungle Book inspired many of the Disney Renaissance Animators' careers

Makin Jungle Book: In depth look at the film's production

[yumny]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Well, now do you hear me when I say "printing the whole aperture" isn't a good idea for The Jungle Book? Why not just stick with what was intended for theaters? If it was good enough for Walt, it should be good enough for you, even if Walt protected for future TV airings.

Yeah, I agree. I think Disney should stick to the theatrical aspect ratio with everything they release. I don't mind black bars at the side of the screen.
My European Dalmatians BD wasn't enhanced in any sort of way, meaning it had black bars at the sides, but like that mattered? No way.
I'd much rather have black bars than missing information at the sides or top of the screen or both..

[figrin_dan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Lnds500 posted the original screengrab of the misframed Fox and the Hound. Someone else made a gif comparison with the DVD. On the Blu, notice how they stoppped animating, inking, and painting the top of Tod's head, because you were never intended to see it.

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. But that 4x3 was clearly framed correctly and 16x9 clearly mis framed. The Jungle book 4x3 and 16x9 versions both looked framed correctly (for their respective uses) - or has anyone spotted a problem with them?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by yumny

Yeah, I agree. I think Disney should stick to the theatrical aspect ratio with everything they release. I don't mind black bars at the side of the screen.
My European Dalmatians BD wasn't enhanced in any sort of way, meaning it had black bars at the sides, but like that mattered? No way.
I'd much rather have black bars than missing information at the sides or top of the screen or both..

Yumny, believe it or not, the Dalmatians Blu has the same aspect ratio as the last theatrical release here in Texas back in the very early 90's. For that release, Disney released it theatrically in that "square" aspect ratio, and I remember being surprised by it in the theater (I wasn't expecting it - Fantasia had just been released in a fashion preserving the original aspect ratio, I wasn't expecting Dalmatians to be released in 1.37:1 (or whatever). I expect the U.S. Blu to do the same, and I can only imagine this debate will come up all over again.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Yumny, believe it or not, the Dalmatians Blu has the same aspect ratio as the last theatrical release here in Texas back in the very early 90's. For that release, Disney released it theatrically in that "square" aspect ratio, and I remember being surprised by it in the theater (I wasn't expecting it - Fantasia had just been released in a fashion preserving the original aspect ratio, I wasn't expecting Dalmatians to be released in 1.37:1 (or whatever). I expect the U.S. Blu to do the same, and I can only imagine this debate will come up all over again.

I'm afraid I don't understand your explanation. What is the original (theatrical) aspect ratio, then?

[Ray_Rogers]

Not even going to read the thread. I'd rather buy the live-action The Jungle Book on Blu-ray from Walt Disney Pictures over their animated version.

[bsweetness]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Not even going to read the thread. I'd rather buy the live-action The Jungle Book on Blu-ray from Walt Disney Pictures over their animated version.

I want both.

Although I must say that I enjoyed the live action version more when I was a kid. It could be because I saw it in the theater when it was first released. I haven't seen either in quite awhile though, so I'm not sure how my childhood preferences will hold up.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by yumny

I'm afraid I don't understand your explanation. What is the original (theatrical) aspect ratio, then?

Probably the widescreen aspect ratio - but the last time out, Disney released it in 1.37:1, just as you would have seen on television. Perhaps this is the "preferred" version for some reason. Can't tell you, welcome to the wacky world of Disney aspect ratios. Sounds like an excellent question to ask Disney, though.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Not even going to read the thread. I'd rather buy the live-action The Jungle Book on Blu-ray from Walt Disney Pictures over their animated version.

Thanks for sharing. Please exit to the doors on your right. Make sure to collect all your belongings. Have a great day at the park!

[kylemj]

Looking forward to this joining my Disney collection

[Mason_Ireton]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Not even going to read the thread. I'd rather buy the live-action The Jungle Book on Blu-ray from Walt Disney Pictures over their animated version.

What's wrong with the animated verison?, to me it's not a kid verison of the novel(s) the novels were very episodic and Walt's team managed to narrow the story by havin it be about a young man raised in the jungle yet must eventualy go back to man and they wanted to have fun with the story.


I fondly remember Rudyard Kipling's Jungle Book from my childhood too, when I first saw it I was surprised to not hear any of the animals speak, but the story worked in my opinon. Hopefuly Disney will release Rudyard Kipling's Jungle Book to blu round the same time/after the animated verison is released.

Actualy amazed to see that Rudyard Kipling's Jungle Book wasn't released few months after the platinum

[Zot!]

Originally Posted by figrin_dan

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. But that 4x3 was clearly framed correctly and 16x9 clearly mis framed. The Jungle book 4x3 and 16x9 versions both looked framed correctly (for their respective uses) - or has anyone spotted a problem with them?

I mentioned it earlier, but the existing 16x9 is a little tight on Jungle Book (ears and tails getting cut off and such). I assume they will at least pillarbox the BD slightly like Aristocats. Which might actually come out perfect, because it in need of a teensy bit of extra headroom.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by Zot!

I mentioned it earlier, but the existing 16x9 is a little tight on Jungle Book (ears and tails getting cut off and such). I assume they will at least pillarbox the BD slightly like Aristocats. Which might actually come out perfect, because it in need of a teensy bit of extra headroom.

Yay headroom!

[rexxriot]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Yay headroom!

Let's hope for the most headroom possible. The max headroom, if you will.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by rexxriot

Let's hope for the most headroom possible. The max headroom, if you will.

So much headroom that's it's cell phone ratio!