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Old 01-27-2013, 09:31 PM   #61
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I agree that we will continue to see the market shift towards digital, but I think there will always be a place for packaged media. Streaming is very limited. You mostly get B content, hardly any good new releases, and movies and TV shows get pulled with no warning. Streaming will certainly affect the rental market as well as the cable business, but unless they drastically change the streaming model, I just don't see the death of packaged media.

We have heard the same arguments about packaged music forever and yet CD and Vinyl are still very much alive. I think there will always be a market for packaged media in some form or another to at least cater to those that have low bandwidth or to those that are collectors and prefer quality and to hold something in your hand.

4K could became an expensive niche product, but it depends on the final specs and what technology they use. If they can fit 4K movies on a BD50, I think the format could have a chance of being affordable for mass consumers.
I agree, there is no point dwelling on it, packaged media will always be around unless we able to start burning our own blu rays. ITunes, Bluray, netflix and dvd will all have their market shares.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 09:39 PM   #62
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Page master, if younger generation snub large tv, where are we going to watch our blurays, etc..
 
Old 01-27-2013, 09:45 PM   #63
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Anthony, CDs are heading that way. Can't remember saying no new CDs in 2013, if I did I called that one wrong. There were strong rumours that they were going to pull the plug on CDs this year except for special editions.

Anthony, you must understand, I love bluray and tech in general. It may sound paranoid but I could not stand a future of squinting at my content. I worry that is where we are heading. Even iPads seem to be classed as too big by some! 7 inch tablets are barely watchable. If TV sets are going extinct I am basically up the creek without a paddle!
 
Old 01-27-2013, 10:59 PM   #64
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Anthony, CDs are heading that way.
only in your head, CDs have been around for over 30years, digital DL for over 10 and records are still around.

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Can't remember saying no new CDs in 2013, if I did I called that one wrong. There were strong rumours that they were going to pull the plug on CDs this year except for special editions.
Rumours? I would call it propaganda by idiots and for idiots. And no you did not call that one wrong. But unfortunately I think the discussion might have taken place duriing the few weeks that the data was lost. I remember it well because I got so tired of you talking about how that there won’t be any new CDs in 2012 that I asked for a deal that if it was not true you would stop your constant and annoying pessimism on the death of TV, and physical media and if they did stop CDs I would apologise for questioning your outlook on tyhe death of all that.

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Anthony, you must understand, I love bluray and tech in general. It may sound paranoid but I could not stand a future of squinting at my content. I worry that is where we are heading. Even iPads seem to be classed as too big by some! 7 inch tablets are barely watchable. If TV sets are going extinct I am basically up the creek without a paddle!
Get over it,. It won't go anywhere, seriously, do you think people will not have homes any more? As long as people have homes there will be times when people want to see stuff as a family, see stuff with friends, a small screen might be good in a waiting room to waste time while waiting but it is completely useless when a handful of people want to watch something together.
 
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as a rental market, very well could be. but as sellthrough??/ sorry, but streaming sell through is dead in the water.
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only in your head, CDs have been around for over 30years, digital DL for over 10 and records are still around.



Rumours? I would call it propaganda by idiots and for idiots. And no you did not call that one wrong. But unfortunately I think the discussion might have taken place duriing the few weeks that the data was lost. I remember it well because I got so tired of you talking about how that there won’t be any new CDs in 2012 that I asked for a deal that if it was not true you would stop your constant and annoying pessimism on the death of TV, and physical media and if they did stop CDs I would apologise for questioning your outlook on tyhe death of all that.



Get over it,. It won't go anywhere, seriously, do you think people will not have homes any more? As long as people have homes there will be times when people want to see stuff as a family, see stuff with friends, a small screen might be good in a waiting room to waste time while waiting but it is completely useless when a handful of people want to watch something together.
Anthony, people don't watch stuff together now, let alone the future. Sports is the exception to that. Since tablets came out couples are not watching the same thing. Why watch a soap with wife when a guy could power up his tablet and watch something he likes with headphones? Same with smartphones. As for kids I wager that they won't even think about watching at the same time as parents.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 12:46 AM   #66
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Anthony, CDs are heading that way. Can't remember saying no new CDs in 2013, if I did I called that one wrong. There were strong rumours that they were going to pull the plug on CDs this year except for special editions.
And studio executives quickly denounced that rumor and stated that they know of no plan to kill off CD in the near future. Why would they? CD still makes up about half their revenue in North America and I want to say close to 70% globally. Why would you kill something off that makes billions of dollars that you may never see again?

Let me ask you. If you were a studio executive, would you rather someone pay $7-15 for a CD or .99 to $1.30 per music track knowing that a person may only buy 1-3 songs form a given album? CD is money in the bank.

It is not going away unless they studios cannot make money off of it anymore. My guess is we are about 7-10 years away from CD going away completely. Maybe longer.

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Anthony, you must understand, I love bluray and tech in general. It may sound paranoid but I could not stand a future of squinting at my content. I worry that is where we are heading. Even iPads seem to be classed as too big by some! 7 inch tablets are barely watchable. If TV sets are going extinct I am basically up the creek without a paddle!
Clearly you did not read the NPD study I quoted above. Or you are just trying to be fear inducing. There is no evidence out there that shows that HDTV's will be gone because everyone wants to watch movies and TV on their tiny screens. Think about how ridiculous it would be to watch the Super Bowl with your buddies on an iPad???

Seriously man. You need to stop worrying..
 
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Fair enough. I honestly swear that I am not baiting or fear inducing. These are all genuine concerns I have and I wouldn't be an ass and try to get a rise out of people. Despite what some might think. The scenario I described is just niggling away in the back of my mind. Films on a phone arggghhhhhh!!
 
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Fair enough. I honestly swear that I am not baiting or fear inducing. These are all genuine concerns I have and I wouldn't be an ass and try to get a rise out of people. Despite what some might think. The scenario I described is just niggling away in the back of my mind. Films on a phone arggghhhhhh!!
20 minute TV shows are one thing. Can you imaging watching The Hobbit for 3 hours on your 3.5-5" phone screen??? Majority of people are not going to do this.

Also look at the box office numbers from 2012. More people went to the theater than in 2011. If people don't care to watch movies on the big screen we would see big drops in attendance year over year.

Me thinks you are just over thinking this
 
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20 minute TV shows are one thing. Can you imaging watching The Hobbit for 3 hours on your 3.5-5" phone screen??? Majority of people are not going to do this.

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Agreed, but mirroring your tablet or laptop to your big screen solves this.
 
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http://http://advanced-television.co...nge-tv-device/

Just read this. Does not help my unease. I am old enough not to be swayed by one article, but talk like this is not good.
 
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The feeling you get when you hold a brand new blu ray you just brought is amazing you don't get that when streaming
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:51 PM   #72
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You don't get much from streaming. Just crappy picture quality.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 05:59 PM   #73
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I'm not that familiar with streaming / iTunes or whatever. But if your hard drive crashes or you have to re-format, then will you have to re-buy everything?
 
Old 01-28-2013, 08:13 PM   #74
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I'm not that familiar with streaming / iTunes or whatever. But if your hard drive crashes or you have to re-format, then will you have to re-buy everything?
No, I had to take my computer back to square one and was able to re-download the movies to my iTuned account if they came with discs. You can also talk to one of the online reps and they'll put everything you've purchased back in your que to download the next time you start iTunes. I only had to contact them about Scott Pilgrim when I did this. Of course now I've switched over to a Samsung Galaxy SIII and I'm wondering how I'm going to transfer these movies over for road trips. Might just load them up on my old iPhone. If I'm lucky the boy will sit still and watch it. Guess I'll start saving them to Windows now, not sure
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Redownloading a crap ton of movies doesn’t sound very fun!!

That’s why I’ll never adopt a streaming only format. Can be way to inconvenient b/c of situations like that!!
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that is why I don't mind DL to own (when the quality becomes acceptable and HDD space cheap enough to hold a collection) but I will never buy into streaming. You have 0 control (the service is down, the service is too busy, the same fr the ISP/internet connection, or even the agreement between a service and the studio or even a service going out of business..
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Redownloading a crap ton of movies doesn’t sound very fun!!

That’s why I’ll never adopt a streaming only format. Can be way to inconvenient b/c of situations like that!!
Is that really going to matter a few years from now? It's not a question of speed, it's a question of storage.

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Is that really going to matter a few years from now? It's not a question of speed, it's a question of storage.

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Never say "never"...especially when it comes to technology. If you believe the world 5 years from now is going to be the same world we are in today, then you're not paying attention to the future, and you haven't paid attention to history.
personally...i have yet to see anything to make me want to make a switch to streaming only content.

given the choice....as long as there is a choice....i'll always choose physical media.
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personally...i have yet to see anything to make me want to make a switch to streaming only content.

given the choice....as long as there is a choice....i'll always choose physical media.
Sure, at the moment...until you realize you're one of the last to hold on to physical media, while everyone else will own the same collection x thousands more in a convenient package that isn't holding up space in their living room. Quality will meet the same standards very soon.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/25/h265-is-approved/
 
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personally...i have yet to see anything to make me want to make a switch to streaming only content.

given the choice....as long as there is a choice....i'll always choose physical media.
Yes and no, I have the choice, I do both.
 
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