Disney's Tarzan for 2012 - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

punkguy03 · 03-20-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lnds500

hahahaha no, we don't have lossless. I don't know even know if the German or French releases are getting lossless soundtracks, let alone us.

no, in the DVD era we had Dolby Digital 5.1 384kbps and now we have Dolby Digital 5.1 640kbps. We can't complain though, as long as they don't re-dub the movies (as they've done with Little Mermaid and and and the Tramp) all is well

Thanks for theinfo. Was there any particular reason they re-dubbed them?

Lnds500 · 03-20-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by punkguy03

Thanks for theinfo. Was there any particular reason they re-dubbed them?

No official explanation was given, but from the info I've gathered over the years, The Little Mermaid, Lady and the Tramp and the Incredibles have been re-dubbed in a lot of countries. I am sure the reason is not due to damaged source files or something like that, cause the recordings (especially for the Incredibles) are recent. it should have something to do with copyright

you can imagine that George Lucas' changes in Star Wars are nothing compared to this

punkguy03 · 03-20-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lnds500

No official explanation was given, but from the info I've gathered over the years, The Little Mermaid, Lady and the Tramp and the Incredibles have been re-dubbed in a lot of countries. I am sure the reason is not due to damaged source files or something like that, cause the recordings (especially for the Incredibles) are recent. it should have something to do with copyright

you can imagine that George Lucas' changes in Star Wars are nothing compared to this

Very interesting, obviously I don't deal much with this being in America. (except for the anime I watch). Interesting to hear about things like this that I otherwise wouldn't have a clue about.

wasim h · 03-20-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by I-C-Blue

... why is Disney doing this to the foreign markets?

VERY bare bones indeed. Lack of special features is one thing but no lossless audio is mad.

at least we will get separate releases for pocahontas , rescuers , fox & the hound

thats more important for me

wasim h · 03-21-2012, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge

I was Googling to see if any of the BD-rippers had posted BDInfo scans of the international Tarzan disc yet, and it seems that this disc is a BD-25 with a video bitrate of 23001 kbps (which is within the Disney norm of 23-25 mbps for its animated releases) but only has a lossy Dolby Digital 5.1 @ 640 kbps audio track for the original English (or any of the foreign dubs for that matter)...

Regardless of how the upcoming UK disc turns out in terms of A/V, the BBFC listing for the supplemental features for its upcoming release lists only the three extras [alternate opening, music video, and Disneypedia] seen in this international release...

BDInfo text (spoilered due to length)

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DISC INFO:

Disc Title: TARZAN_BD_BLUEBIRD
Disc Size: 20 637 321 880 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00100.MPLS
Length: 122.130 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 19 603 286 016 bytes
Total Bitrate: 29,58 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 23001 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Swedish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Norwegian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Danish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Finnish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Hebrew 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 39,360 kbps
Presentation Graphics Hebrew 25,374 kbps
Presentation Graphics Danish 38,678 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 36,386 kbps
Presentation Graphics Russian 37,244 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 36,275 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 36,647 kbps

screen shots from this version

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...784826f328.jpg

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...7848791d65.jpg

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...7848a0c8a9.jpg

the same menu , extras , everything as the middle east version except the languages of curse

svenge · 03-21-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wasim h

screen shots from this version

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...784826f328.jpg

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...7848791d65.jpg

http://www.hdclub.ua/files/film_rele...7848a0c8a9.jpg

the same menu , extras , everything as the middle east version except the languages of curse

I thought so. Thanks for confirming my suspicions, Wasim.

wasim h · 03-21-2012, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge

I thought so. Thanks for confirming my suspicions, Wasim.

your welcome

Lnds500 · 03-22-2012, 02:23 PM

Tarzan
Video: 4/5
Audio: 3/5
Extras: 2/5

Tarzan is a pretty basic release. The video quality is above average, but there seems to be something "off" with the picture. I'd say it uses the exact same transfer as the HDTV-rip available (without the edge enhancement + added contrast). No lossless audio is a let-down and the extras are laughable. I hope the UK and US get a better treatment.

punkguy03 · 03-22-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lnds500

Tarzan
Video: 4/5
Audio: 3/5
Extras: 2/5

Tarzan is a pretty basic release. The video quality is above average, but there seems to be something "off" with the picture. I'd say it uses the exact same transfer as the HDTV-rip available (without the edge enhancement + added contrast). No lossless audio is a let-down and the extras are laughable. I hope the UK and US get a better treatment.

Considering the US hasn't even announced it. I would assume that they are doing more with it. Of course, this is purely speculation.

Lnds500 · 03-24-2012, 11:17 PM

EDIT: re-uploaded everything, they should work fine now. I suggest using rapidshare cause youtube further reduces quality

I captured these small clips off of the blu-ray using some freeware just to show you the problems I'm talking about, if there is a problem with the forum I'll remove them. Some loss in quality should be expected since this is not the blu-ray but I think they will do.

https://rapidshare.com/files/3525529940/Jane-1.mp4

Notice his hair during this instance. When playing it's not very clear, but that's the texture I'm talking about. Pause the clip, it becomes more noticeable then.

https://rapidshare.com/files/3672653907/Colour-1.mp4

This is much more obvious. Notice his hair when he picks up the cloth.

https://rapidshare.com/files/3496478801/Credits-1.mp4

Notice the bushes at the right and left of the credits.

03-25-2012, 10:26 PM

So it's already released??????????? I'm in the Middle East, I'll go look ASAP!

wasim h · 03-26-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyme

So it's already released??????????? I'm in the Middle East, I'll go look ASAP!

you can buy it from here

http://www.aido.com/blu-ray/kids-fam...tarzan-blu-ray

wasim h · 03-27-2012, 01:14 AM

just finished watching the bluray
im totally disappointed with this release

the transfer is totally a joke , i mean i loved the colors , the backgrounds details but really ?? is that a disney bluray PQ ??

just look at every scene of kala

you'll see something grainy and something like color shaking I don't know how to describe but its bad

omg @ the sence when kala shows tarzan his parents house @@ just look at the colors (kala body , tarzan hair) how bad it was @@

im sad

my rate :
PQ : 3/5
Audio : i watched this in my language tho

extras : 2/5
overall rating for this release 2.5/5

i'm glad they have released it at least , but of curse i wanted a better release for Tarzan

i think it was a bad decision to release it this year and now we have seen the result
a shitty release for a great Disney Classic

1 shitty transfer & PQ
2 no lossless audio
3 no extras

and all of that because of John Carter

ChristineHansen · 03-31-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wasim h

just finished watching the bluray
im totally disappointed with this release

the transfer is totally a joke , i mean i loved the colors , the backgrounds details but really ?? is that a disney bluray PQ ??

just look at every scene of kala

you'll see something grainy and something like color shaking I don't know how to describe but its bad

omg @ the sence when kala shows tarzan his parents house @@ just look at the colors (kala body , tarzan hair) how bad it was @@

im sad

my rate :
PQ : 3/5
Audio : i watched this in my language tho

extras : 2/5
overall rating for this release 2.5/5

i'm glad they have released it at least , but of curse i wanted a better release for Tarzan

i think it was a bad decision to release it this year and now we have seen the result
a shitty release for a great Disney Classic

1 shitty transfer & PQ
2 no lossless audio
3 no extras

and all of that because of John Carter

Do Tarzan ( and Middle Eastern Disney releases in general ) have the number on the spine?

wasim h · 03-31-2012, 02:29 PM

no

its like this

Lnds500 · 06-22-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sotiris

According to the Argentinian website Cine 1, this is the provisional poster for the theatrical re-release of Tarzan in 3D. I've browsed the site and it seems pretty legit to me. They are also the ones who leaked those Wreck-It Ralph posters. What do you think?

High-resolution photo

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I-C-Blue · 06-22-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lnds500

High-resolution photo

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HO YES! I was JUST dreaming about this literally, though we haven't heard anything states side yet. One thing for sure, I'd definitely go watch it in 3D at the theatres if I had the chance!

Lnds500 · 06-22-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by I-C-Blue

HO YES! I was JUST dreaming about this literally, though we haven't heard anything states side yet. One thing for sure, I'd definitely go watch it in 3D at the theatres if I had the chance!

take this with a grain of salt.

wasim h · 06-22-2012, 10:50 PM

i hoooooooope they will give Europe a new bluray release

tonydabeanner · 06-26-2012, 06:53 AM

I had a feeling about this, glad I didn't import the BD. Hopefully Mulan will get this treatment as well. I've been saying these CAPS movies have 3D re-release written all over them. I'm excited about Tarzan in particular, the Jane rescue/baboon chase should look amazing in 3D

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03-22-2012, 02:23 PM	#88
Lnds500 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Athens, Greece 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:214 DVD collection:30 Digital collection:12 iTunes collection:235 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:75	Tarzan Video: 4/5 Audio: 3/5 Extras: 2/5 Tarzan is a pretty basic release. The video quality is above average, but there seems to be something "off" with the picture. I'd say it uses the exact same transfer as the HDTV-rip available (without the edge enhancement + added contrast). No lossless audio is a let-down and the extras are laughable. I hope the UK and US get a better treatment.

03-25-2012, 10:26 PM	#91
tonyme Guest	So it's already released??????????? I'm in the Middle East, I'll go look ASAP!

03-27-2012, 01:14 AM	#93
wasim h Senior Member Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Dubai,UAE Blu-ray collection:40	just finished watching the bluray im totally disappointed with this release the transfer is totally a joke , i mean i loved the colors , the backgrounds details but really ?? is that a disney bluray PQ ?? just look at every scene of kala you'll see something grainy and something like color shaking I don't know how to describe but its bad omg @ the sence when kala shows tarzan his parents house @@ just look at the colors (kala body , tarzan hair) how bad it was @@ im sad my rate : PQ : 3/5 Audio : i watched this in my language tho extras : 2/5 overall rating for this release 2.5/5 i'm glad they have released it at least , but of curse i wanted a better release for Tarzan i think it was a bad decision to release it this year and now we have seen the result a shitty release for a great Disney Classic 1 shitty transfer & PQ 2 no lossless audio 3 no extras and all of that because of John Carter

03-31-2012, 02:29 PM	#95
wasim h Senior Member Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Dubai,UAE Blu-ray collection:40	no its like this

06-22-2012, 10:50 PM	#99
wasim h Senior Member Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Dubai,UAE Blu-ray collection:40	i hoooooooope they will give Europe a new bluray release

06-26-2012, 06:53 AM	#100
tonydabeanner Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2010 DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:26	I had a feeling about this, glad I didn't import the BD. Hopefully Mulan will get this treatment as well. I've been saying these CAPS movies have 3D re-release written all over them. I'm excited about Tarzan in particular, the Jane rescue/baboon chase should look amazing in 3D .

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