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Old 11-20-2015, 08:25 PM   #241
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Not sure what you mean by "at all". Because I've played it in 2D on my 3DTV. And also on my 2D laptop monitor with PowerDVD.
On a 2d display with a normal BD player
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Not sure what you mean by "at all". Because I've played it in 2D on my 3DTV. And also on my 2D laptop monitor with PowerDVD.
We're talking about playback on a regular 2D TV, the disc won't allow it. While it is true that every single MVC encoded 3D disc has a 2D left-eye stream it doesn't play by default on a 2D setup, the disc must be authored to allow it to be user-selectable.

From Top Gun 3D on a 2D TV:

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I've probably had this discussion before earlier in the thread, but I prefer the fullscreen version, as the "widescreeen" version simply crops the image. A movie of this scale should not have nearly half the image removed. I watched in fullscreen a thousand times as a kid, and that's the only way I'll ever see it.

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I've probably had this discussion before earlier in the thread, but I prefer the fullscreen version, as the "widescreeen" version simply crops the image. A movie of this scale should not have nearly half the image removed. I watched in fullscreen a thousand times as a kid, and that's the only way I'll ever see it.
The "cropped" image is the intended ratio, and how it was theatrically screened. They ADDED image to the top and bottom for the old "fullscreen" releases. More image does not always mean better.
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The "cropped" image is the intended ratio, and how it was theatrically screened. They ADDED image to the top and bottom for the old "fullscreen" releases. More image does not always mean better.
And it was 2.1:1 for aaages!
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:43 PM   #246
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More image does not always mean better.
Only a matter of opinion. But as an example to counter your side, take the infamous "Need for Speed" line scene. In the fullscreen version, you can not only see Cruise and Edwards from head to toe, but you can see that beautful blue sky. In the "widescreen" dvd, they're both cut off at the knees, and the top of Edwards' head is cut off. In the "widescreen" blu, they're both cut off at the waist, Edwards' head is gone, and the top of Cruise's head is gone. So now when they high five, you can't even see it, nor do you see Edwards talking in unison with Cruise when they say the line. Same goes for Cruise's fist-pump when he's riding his motorcycle as the jet flies by.


It is NOT intentional that we don't see what the characters are saying or doing in these scenes. When "Need for Speed" became one of the most popular phrases in the 80's thanks to this film (as well as a 25 year old videogame series that's still going on to this day). And don't get me started on how by losing the entire shot of the jets during the flight scenes, we lose all sense of scale and it's harder to see what's going on.

Oh and the "widescreen" laserdisc was different as well. So that's 4 different AR's. I don't believe that the late great Tony Scott changed his mind about the AR 3 times.
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Only a matter of opinion. But as an example to counter your side, take the infamous "Need for Speed" line scene. In the fullscreen version, you can not only see Cruise and Edwards from head to toe, but you can see that beautful blue sky. In the "widescreen" dvd, they're both cut off at the knees, and the top of Edwards' head is cut off. In the "widescreen" blu, they're both cut off at the waist, Edwards' head is gone, and the top of Cruise's head is gone. So now when they high five, you can't even see it, nor do you see Edwards talking in unison with Cruise when they say the line. Same goes for Cruise's fist-pump when he's riding his motorcycle as the jet flies by.


It is NOT intentional that we don't see what the characters are saying or doing in these scenes. When "Need for Speed" became one of the most popular phrases in the 80's thanks to this film (as well as a 25 year old videogame series that's still going on to this day). And don't get me started on how by losing the entire shot of the jets during the flight scenes, we lose all sense of scale and it's harder to see what's going on.

Oh and the "widescreen" laserdisc was different as well. So that's 4 different AR's. I don't believe that the late great Tony Scott changed his mind about the AR 3 times.
Tony didn't change his mind
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