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Old 02-06-2013, 08:08 PM   #41
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Yeah, noticed that! Also (could be wrong) but does the Borg ship destroying the three sentry ships at 1:19 look like a full CGI recreation to you? Might be the new compositing that's making it look different to me.

And looks like they still haven't found that saucer-sep shot. Oh, well.
Nope, it's still the same Borg cube, I compared frames, and the lighting pattern on the cube is the same, the recompositing makes it look a different, remember CBS-D adds that extra love to make shots look gorgeous.

As for the saucer separation angle from under the saucer, from my understanding the film had warped... some people say it's noticeable in Generations...
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:59 PM   #42
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As for the saucer separation angle from under the saucer, from my understanding the film had warped... some people say it's noticeable in Generations...
Interesting. I hadn't heard that warping was a problem with that shot in particular. The only significant issue I can see on my Generations Blu-ray is an opacity problem -- the background stars are showing through the miniature.

It's odd that warping would be pronounced enough to scrap the shot entirely... I thought CBS Digital was using Autodesk Flare to correct any distortion or warping that caused the various element passes not to line up correctly anymore. Are you saying that it was warped beyond their ability to fix the shot? That would have to be some pretty significant warping -- like too warped to even scan the film.

CBS Digital certainly handled those kind of issues much better than HTV did. As I'm sure you know, a fair amount of the HTV work bobs and drifts around in ways the CBS Digital stuff doesn't and CBS Home Entertainment had no problem releasing it to the public.
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Thanks for that. So what's the story on them abandoning the original practical explosion?
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:18 AM   #45
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I don't know about an official reason for the change, but I'll bet those original, cheap plastic model kit parts and sparklers didn't look too hot blown up in high definition.

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Old 02-07-2013, 02:24 AM   #46
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I don't know about an official reason for the change, but I'll bet those original, cheap plastic model kit parts and sparklers didn't look too hot blown up in high definition.
Not really complaining, mind you... just wondering. It looks like they retained one particular L-shaped chunk that flies off (or, more likely, they recreated it):

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Yeah, I can't tell if there's some original stuff mixed in with the new CG or what.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:10 AM   #48
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It's up at Amazon! Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Best of Both Worlds Blu-ray preorder for $17.49
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:58 PM   #49
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Cool!! This is one I will pick up for sure.
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I'll set a price alert for when this thing drops below $12. I believe the ST:TNG - The Next Level/Sampler dropped to $10 a couple months after it was released.

BTW, I have no interest in the season sets, but I'd love to see "All Good Things" get it's own disc too.
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Awesome. Thank you Aatrek!

EDIT: Looks like the opening shot of the Enterprise over Earth is Tobias Richter's 3D mesh. This is probably one of those elements that was moved down the line into another episode's collection.

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Old 02-09-2013, 10:55 AM   #53
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Full S3 / BOBW press release is out: http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/02092...sreleases.html

Four commentaries on the S3 set; the group on the BOBW disc.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:44 PM   #54
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looks like they are matching it here in Canada

Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Best of Both Worlds Blu-ray

i might just have to buy it here instead.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:23 PM   #55
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Click to enhance! Courtesy of TrekCore.


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Old 02-12-2013, 01:49 PM   #56
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who would have thought the borg would be cool about drones and body hair.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:04 PM   #57
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I don't know about an official reason for the change, but I'll bet those original, cheap plastic model kit parts and sparklers didn't look too hot blown up in high definition.
Not to mention that some of the sparks that exit the shot ricochet off a surface just outside the frame and come back into the shot(reference the top right section of the original shot version at 4-5 seconds into the video).


That would be a reason, if it irked someone enough.

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Old 02-13-2013, 11:12 PM   #58
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A new, big comparison piece for Best of Both Worlds at TrekCore... with uncompressed screencaps!

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/02132...trailerhd.html

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Old 02-19-2013, 03:25 PM   #59
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Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Best of Both Worlds Blu-ray- $15.99 (Preorder)
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