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Old 11-03-2015, 06:56 PM   #2161
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A priced down version of Japanese Season 4 hits BD next week if anyone wants to own Face Of The Enemy.

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Old 11-03-2015, 07:33 PM   #2162
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Battlestar Gal S4 Amazon JP

See how long this link lasts before the forum automation botches it -- bottom line is around $38USD shipped with the Amazon Converter (36.50 with a Forex Free CC checking out in yen).

Interesting, but when the full series is often less than $40 during the usual Holiday sales I'm not sure I'm that big a fan for at most 40 minutes of ??Definition material (some of it very good) -- I think this was all SD.

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Old 12-30-2015, 06:13 AM   #2163
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Just a question, but does anyone know where to view the "enhanced" webisode versions of The Face of the Enemy? Or where to access the podcasts Jane Espenson recorded for them?

It seems the the JP set didn't include the podcasts, and it's not available on the SyFy website anymore since their revamp. Youtube only has the enhanced versions of episodes 1-5, but 6 and 8 (the only other enhanced ones left on youtube) are blocked in the US.

It's so annoying the SyFy scrubbed almost all traces of the BSG podcast commentaries.
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This has to be one of the most bizarre and frustrating series to try out my new tv on. With the different filters, clarity, and lighting this was a exercise in pain trying to calibrate my set to. Who would do such a thing to themselves? The scenes in space flying look great. Crystal clear, and stunning. The shots on some planets grainy and gross. Its quite a cluster frack.
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This has to be one of the most bizarre and frustrating series to try out my new tv on. With the different filters, clarity, and lighting this was a exercise in pain trying to calibrate my set to. Who would do such a thing to themselves? The scenes in space flying look great. Crystal clear, and stunning. The shots on some planets grainy and gross. Its quite a cluster frack.
Well, this may be a bit "out there" with my thinking, but why not use a title more conducive to what you're trying to achieve? Why use a television show from the 1970's?
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:19 PM   #2166
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Well, this may be a bit "out there" with my thinking, but why not use a title more conducive to what you're trying to achieve? Why use a television show from the 1970's?
They didn't specify which BSG they were using though the thread originated about the New Series.

The new series had a very intentional grainy/rough style though that many people have complained about and it was never meant to be crystal clear. Trying to use either series for serious Picture evaluation/calibration would likely be impossible.

My assumption was they were using the New Series until the "down on the planets" comment which fits better with the original than the new series which spent the large majority of the time on the ship. At that point I wasn't sure which series they were using.
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:53 PM   #2167
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They didn't specify which BSG they were using though the thread originated about the New Series.

The new series had a very intentional grainy/rough style though that many people have complained about and it was never meant to be crystal clear. Trying to use either series for serious Picture evaluation/calibration would likely be impossible.
This is the reason behind the disclaimer that plays whenever you load up one of the BSG Blu-Rays ("This visual look accurately represents the intentions of the producers," etc.) -- essentially, the show was shot digitally on HD, then artificially "up-grained" on purpose in post-production to obtain the documentary-style look that you see on the show.
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This is the reason behind the disclaimer that plays whenever you load up one of the BSG Blu-Rays ("This visual look accurately represents the intentions of the producers," etc.) -- essentially, the show was shot digitally on HD, then artificially "up-grained" on purpose in post-production to obtain the documentary-style look that you see on the show.
Yes. I think they did 'improve/decrease' this upgraining as the series was released, but it was quite variable depending of the situation. The scenes inside the Cylon Base ship were much more pristine HD.

I actually liked the whole idea as a visual style representing the dire situation.

The shaky cam stuff honestly I could have done without most of it. Kind of like JJ Abrams lens flares that got to the point that it became a joke and irritant more than a style that benefited the story. A little bit goes a very long way.
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In the season 2 episode where Starbuck goes back to her apartment and puts on a piano recording, Helo says something like "This doesn't seem like you." and she says "It's my father('s?).". I took it to mean it was from her father's "record" collection, but some have said it means her father was a pianist, or even the composer. It seems to be a natural ambiguity of the English language. Has Moore or anyone ever addressed this?
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In the season 2 episode where Starbuck goes back to her apartment and puts on a piano recording, Helo says something like "This doesn't seem like you." and she says "It's my father('s?).". I took it to mean it was from her father's "record" collection, but some have said it means her father was a pianist, or even the composer. It seems to be a natural ambiguity of the English language. Has Moore or anyone ever addressed this?
I thought I had a pretty extensive Philip Glass collection, but until I checked on the web, I had assumed it was just Bear McCreary in the style of Glass again. Turns out the piece is Metamorphosis One from the Glass album Solo Piano (an album I thought I had, but turned out I had a couple of his other piano albums instead). It made me wonder, are any of the other pieces in the show actually Phillip Glass? A number of times it seems like McCreary modelling his music after a Glass temp track (there's a battle scene in season 2 that sounds straight out of the Mishima soundtrack), but it gets hard to tell sometimes.
Have you watched the rest of the series? This is the only time Phillip Glass is used. And yes, she meant it was her father, Deirlide Thrace, performing the music. Later in the series all the Deirlide Thrace music is original Bear McCreary compositions.
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Have you watched the rest of the series? This is the only time Phillip Glass is used. And yes, she meant it was her father, Deirlide Thrace, performing the music. Later in the series all the Deirlide Thrace music is original Bear McCreary compositions.
Thanks for clearing up the Starbuck's dad question, though, is it made clear he is supposed to be a composer, or just pianist?...After nearly 10 years I just started rewatching the series on blu-ray, so I had forgotten a lot of things like that. (When the show was usually well over $100 I wasn't sure if I'd get to revisit it, and on Black Friday sales there'd be too many competing releases on sale at once...but just grabbed the UK BD set for around $45 shipped, really enjoying the show all over again.) Also made me break down and order all 6 volumes of soundtrack releases. I finally felt the music I liked outweighed all the stuff I didn't (ethnic wailing, bagpipes..).
But Moore says "a few times" he bought the temp music, so the question remains, apart from some obvious pop songs, and the Glass Metamorphosis, are any of the other tracks not original music by McCreary or Gibbs?
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You're about to see the show plummet off a cliff of quality, unfortunately. It's still good though, just less good.
Know this is an old post, but you were talking about StarGate Atlantis, NOT Battlestar Galactica, right?
Just finished watching this series for the second time since it first came to DVDs. In spite of nitpicks, the show keeps getting better overall as it goes. Revisiting the show after 7 years or so was totally worthwhile, and I was overwhelmed by the last couple of hours. As I had seen it before, there were a few times during the series where I wanted to just get to the finish asap, but was sad all over again with the realization it's over.
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Just read the extras review here to see what might be more worth viewing, as I skipped over some of the extras this time. Checking the U-control on the extended finale, but so far it looks like it just recaps stuff about the characters we already know, so I'm gonna bail. From the review, I thought it might give (probably non-canon) takes on what happened to the characters after the finale or something
[Show spoiler](like Tyrel was the first King of the Scotts),
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and new viewers, you gotta see Caprica after this! You'll need a player that converts PAL/NTSC or 50hz stuff, like multiregion Oppos if you wanna get the French BD at least.
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Know this is an old post, but you were talking about StarGate Atlantis, NOT Battlestar Galactica, right?
Just finished watching this series for the second time since it first came to DVDs. In spite of nitpicks, the show keeps getting better overall as it goes. Revisiting the show after 7 years or so was totally worthwhile, and I was overwhelmed by the last couple of hours. As I had seen it before, there were a few times during the series where I wanted to just get to the finish asap, but was sad all over again with the realization it's over.
That's cool. Everyone's different. The general consensus is that BSG fell apart the last season or two, and I agree with that. You don't have to. The general consensus is that Man of Steel sucks and I love that movie. Everyone's unique.
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That's cool. Everyone's different. The general consensus is that BSG fell apart the last season or two, and I agree with that. You don't have to. The general consensus is that Man of Steel sucks and I love that movie. Everyone's unique.
Glad at least you're cool about it. But from the reviews I've read I never got the impression this was a consensus, as you're the first person I've heard that from. Obviously you're not alone, from what you say, but my guess is opinion must be divided. PS, I too thought Man of Steel was waaay better than the original "consensus" held.
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It's not the general consensus (check the reviews). The last two seasons and the finale were great.
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It's not the general consensus (check the reviews). The last two seasons and the finale were great.
I agree. The show seemed to wander a bit (I think in Season 3), but I thoroughly enjoyed the last couple of seasons and the finale. I'm not sure where that "consensus" came from.
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Has anyone noticed that some discs (within the same season) are VC-1 encoded and some others are AVC encoded? Strange isn't it?
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It's not the general consensus (check the reviews). The last two seasons and the finale were great.
I read a lot of sci-fi news sites, blogs, etc. and pretty much all of them trash the last season or two of BSG. Now, could this be a case where the squeaky wheels are insisting a thing sucks when the silent majority liked it? Definitely could be. It's always funny when you hear relentless "reporting" that a movie sucks and then you go to IMDB and it has a 7-something average (Man of Steel included). This could be one of those things. Who knows?

I don't actually hate the last season or so of BSG, I just found them not quite as entertaining as the first couple. Mostly because I dislike religious stuff in sci-fi and disliked the "final five" storyline.
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I read a lot of sci-fi news sites, blogs, etc. and pretty much all of them trash the last season or two of BSG.
That wasn't necessarily the consensus when it aired. It wasn't as consistent as it was, but it definitely wasn't widely trashed. Definitely not as much as the last couple seasons of Lost, at least.

You also have to keep in mind that by the third season, SciFi was mandating all of those dull standalone episodes that contributed to the decline. During season four, they had only filmed 11 episodes before the writer's strike and had prepared for Sometimes a Great Notion to act as the series finale in the event that the strike lasted longer than the three months it did (Moore claimed Revelations would have been, but Notion was filmed & completed); all of the actors had been officially suspended without pay. Once production resumed, the entire last half was rushed & rewritten. There are certainly some duds (here's looking at you, Deadlock), but also some of the most thrilling episodes (The Oath, Blood On the Scales, the finale) and one of my personal favorites (the extended cut of Islanded in a Stream of Stars).
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