Opinions on YAMAHA RX-V371 refurb

[slugbug]

Newegg.ca has refurbished YAMAHA RX-V371 3D 5.1-Channel AV Receiver's on sale for $127.99. 30 day replacement warranty from Newegg and from what I've read the 1 yr warranty from Yamaha may or may not be valid in Canada.

Anyone here bought one and have any feedback? Looks like it could be a good upgrade from my old Kenwood VR-410 which has no HDMI inputs.

[Almadacr]

Originally Posted by slugbug

Newegg.ca has refurbished YAMAHA RX-V371 3D 5.1-Channel AV Receiver's on sale for $127.99. 30 day replacement warranty from Newegg and from what I've read the 1 yr warranty from Yamaha may or may not be valid in Canada.

Anyone here bought one and have any feedback? Looks like it could be a good upgrade from my old Kenwood VR-410 which has no HDMI inputs.

Yamaha will respect the warranties from Newegg , i bought my speakers truth them ( when they had them ) and Polk respected the warranties .

It's not a bad price but depending of the bells and whistles you can always check at open boxes from FS or BB ( BTW , BB now price matches all Canadian retailers - brick store or Internet ) .

[No Ceiling]

I've had mine for over a year and I'm quite pleased with it. There are times when I feel it isn't loud enough, but it could be me not wanting to turn it all the way up. This model lacks a few luxury features that are present on some the higher up models, but for the price I can't complain.

[slugbug]

Waiting to here back from Yamaha to see if it truly is warrantied for a year, since it's a refurbished unit. I have a feeling the info on Newegg is copied and pasted from their listing for "New".

[rpatt]

I've had good luck with refurbs but I would confirm the warranty before buying.

[serenity]

I'd be more inclined to go with this Denon.http://www.accessories4less.com/make...D-ready/1.html The Yamaha has a weak IC amp section and poor auto setup. Compared to the Denon with discreet outputs in the amp section and Auyssey MultEQ that actually eq's the sub, it will run circles around the Yamaha.

[Nick The Slick]

Originally Posted by serenity

I'd be more inclined to go with this Denon.http://www.accessories4less.com/make...D-ready/1.html The Yamaha has a weak IC amp section and poor auto setup. Compared to the Denon with discreet outputs in the amp section and Auyssey MultEQ that actually eq's the sub, it will run circles around the Yamaha.

According to Denon's website, that model doesn't have Audyssey at all, let alone MultEQ...

[serenity]

Originally Posted by Nick The Slick

According to Denon's website, that model doesn't have Audyssey at all, let alone MultEQ...

My bad you are correct. Denon switched up the models again. The AVR-591 or would probably be the closest at 169.00.

My point still stands though. Low end Yamaha's are not that good for the money. Better can be had for a little more or the same if one looks around.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by Nick The Slick

According to Denon's website, that model doesn't have Audyssey at all, let alone MultEQ...

My bad you are correct. Denon switched up the models again. The AVR-591 or would probably be the closest at 169.00.

Better can still be had for the same or less if one looks around and has patience. Low end Yamahas are not that impressive in my book.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by Nick The Slick

According to Denon's website, that model doesn't have Audyssey at all, let alone MultEQ...

My bad you are correct. Denon switched up the models again. The AVR-591 or would probably be the closest at 169.00.

Better can still be had for the same or less if one looks around and has patience. Low end Yamahas are not that impressive in my book.

[serenity]

My bad you are correct. Denon switched up the models again. The AVR-591 or would probably be the closest at 169.00.

Better can still be had for the same or less if one looks around and has patience. Low end Yamahas are not that impressive in my book.

[Nick The Slick]

I completely agree, better can be had, but just want to make sure the OP is getting the correct info. My Yamaha isn't exactly low end, but I still dislike it's YPAO. I immediately turn off the EQ after calibration, it makes the high end sound terrible. Can't wait to get a proper pre/pro with Audyssey and see what all the hype is about.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by Nick The Slick

I completely agree, better can be had, but just want to make sure the OP is getting the correct info. My Yamaha isn't exactly low end, but I still dislike it's YPAO. I immediately turn off the EQ after calibration, it makes the high end sound terrible. Can't wait to get a proper pre/pro with Audyssey and see what all the hype is about.

What does it do to your high end ?

[Nick The Slick]

Completely destroys it. High notes tend to get drowned out and lost and smeared with the mids. Without the EQ they're clear, smooth, and nice and separated, but not harsh. Copying the three curves (natural, flat, and front) over to the manual mode shows it drops the high end by as much as 6dB in some cases. It just seems to do more harm than good. Maybe because my room is so small and not treated, I don't know. I just know I hate the sound. So I only use it to set the distances, levels, and crossover, which it does perfectly fine.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by Nick The Slick

Completely destroys it. High notes tend to get drowned out and lost and smeared with the mids. Without the EQ they're clear, smooth, and nice and separated, but not harsh. Copying the three curves (natural, flat, and front) over to the manual mode shows it drops the high end by as much as 6dB in some cases. It just seems to do more harm than good. Maybe because my room is so small and not treated, I don't know. I just know I hate the sound. So I only use it to set the distances, levels, and crossover, which it does perfectly fine.

Audyssey does this as well. Considering your in such a small room the roll off is probably not needed. However larger rooms can benefit especially huge ones. Commercial cinemas start rolling off at 3db per octave starting at 2k.

Took me a couple weeks to get used to the Audyssey roll off but in the end I found I preferred it. However Audyssey is probably better at applying it. Pioneer's can be adjusted which is nice. Especially at higher volume movie playback. I found the HF especially on older movies could be rather harsh without a HF roll off.

I do not use Audyssey for music at all. Pure direct only.

Here is a good article on the subject and it's application.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...es-6-2002.html

[Hearing specialist]

With all the hours and hours playing with YPAO, I always felt the "Natural" eq setting was more like the Audyssey curve, rolls off the highs and thickens the lower freqs. I also do think the "Flat" eq setting with YPAO is their best and very powerful. Of course the "Front" eq setting provides zero eq'n for the fronts and matches all others for the response of the un-eq'd mains. So, it all depends on your room to choose natural or flat for the best sound. I look at things like this, as much as I have researched and love Audyssey, YPAO seems to be the correction system they used to compare Audyssey to. So, Audyssey choose the parametric way of things to compare their processing to. Parametric eq'n especially infinetely variable is hard to debate over fixed frequency band correction. How much more adjustability is needed? My opinion is that parametric equalization is the second finest next to the almighty inverse phase and spectral subtraction way of things.