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Old 08-17-2014, 11:31 AM   #12341
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Watched Aliens again yesterday (theatrical cut, natch). Holy heck, what a transfer. There's soooooo much detail, some of those close-ups of Ripley and Gorman in the APC are astonishing, and it's got a noticeable but not overbearing dusting of grain.

As for the colour timing, it works for me. There's a simple photographic fact that flourescent light reads as green on film, and, that being the '80s, there's a shedload of them used throughout Aliens' set design (and indeed Terminator and Abyss) so the greeny-blue lighting is simply not a concern for me. It's not 100% pervasive either, as there's also white light, blue light, red light, orange light etc in other parts of the film and they look fine to me on my calibrated display.

Obviously I can't speak for other films which were given the green-o-vision treatment (I don't think there were too many tube lights in TGTBATU!), nor will I claim that Aliens was like that in the theater (I didn't see it, I was only 6 at the time!), but there's a sound technical reason for the colour looking like it does.

AMAZING transfer IMO which looked equally astounding upscaled on my 4K TV. I'm struggling to imagine just how better a proper 4K version would be, aside from the hoped-for improvements in colour fidelity.
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Old 08-17-2014, 12:32 PM   #12342
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Watched Aliens again yesterday (theatrical cut, natch). Holy heck, what a transfer. There's soooooo much detail, some of those close-ups of Ripley and Gorman in the APC are astonishing, and it's got a noticeable but not overbearing dusting of grain.

As for the colour timing, it works for me. There's a simple photographic fact that flourescent light reads as green on film, and, that being the '80s, there's a shedload of them used throughout Aliens' set design (and indeed Terminator and Abyss) so the greeny-blue lighting is simply not a concern for me. It's not 100% pervasive either, as there's also white light, blue light, red light, orange light etc in other parts of the film and they look fine to me on my calibrated display.

Obviously I can't speak for other films which were given the green-o-vision treatment (I don't think there were too many tube lights in TGTBATU!), nor will I claim that Aliens was like that in the theater (I didn't see it, I was only 6 at the time!), but there's a sound technical reason for the colour looking like it does.

AMAZING transfer IMO which looked equally astounding upscaled on my 4K TV. I'm struggling to imagine just how better a proper 4K version would be, aside from the hoped-for improvements in colour fidelity.
Aliens does have a great transfer as does Alien. I wanted to ask you how good is the upscaling on a 4K TV? Also, what blu player do you use and how is the 4K upscaling on it? Im trying to get an idea of what to go with for my next TV. Thanks in advance for any answers/ details you can give me.
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Aliens does have a great transfer as does Alien.
Yup, I thought Aliens was a lost cause after watching the DVD, that was just a symphony of grain (I can't remember what the problem was, I think they used a new Kodak stock that turned out to be very grainy). I don't know how they did it, but they got rid of most of the grain, but kept a lot of the detail. I don't think it's dated that much, it's still a rollercoaster of a film.
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Yup, I thought Aliens was a lost cause after watching the DVD, that was just a symphony of grain (I can't remember what the problem was, I think they used a new Kodak stock that turned out to be very grainy). I don't know how they did it, but they got rid of most of the grain, but kept a lot of the detail. I don't think it's dated that much, it's still a rollercoaster of a film.
I personally like film grain. There's just the comfort of knowing that when a blu is grainy, that the fine detail is intact and hasn't been scrubbed away. I hate DNR/EE with a passion. They did a fantastic job with Aliens, balancing the grain and keeping all the detail. People that love DNR can do that crap with their own sets.
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Yup, I thought Aliens was a lost cause after watching the DVD, that was just a symphony of grain (I can't remember what the problem was, I think they used a new Kodak stock that turned out to be very grainy). I don't know how they did it, but they got rid of most of the grain, but kept a lot of the detail. I don't think it's dated that much, it's still a rollercoaster of a film.
There wasn't a problem as such, Aliens was simply shot on the fastest stock of the period which, like its immediate forebears, was extremely grainy. And the various noise-reduced home video versions like the SE Laserdisc and then the 1999 HD transfer did nothing to change that perception, rendering Aliens with ugly, chunky noise that does a great disservice to the original photography.
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AMAZING transfer IMO which looked equally astounding upscaled on my 4K TV. I'm struggling to imagine just how better a proper 4K version would be, aside from the hoped-for improvements in colour fidelity.

If I'm not mistaken we now have the same TV.


I also agree how terrific this version looks, especially compared to what's come before on home video. The first extended LD was near unwatchable. Later they came out with a much better THX LD (with AC-3) and of course the DVD versions, but I haven't been happy with the look of ALIENS until now.


As far as an actual 4K version, since the BD comes from the new 4K master, I'd imagine it would just look slightly more refined, maybe with a higher color range.
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Old 08-17-2014, 09:35 PM   #12347
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Watched Aliens again yesterday (theatrical cut, natch).
Heck yeah theatrical cut. Definitely a movie where the original cut is the best.
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If I'm not mistaken we now have the same TV.


I also agree how terrific this version looks, especially compared to what's come before on home video. The first extended LD was near unwatchable. Later they came out with a much better THX LD (with AC-3) and of course the DVD versions, but I haven't been happy with the look of ALIENS until now.


As far as an actual 4K version, since the BD comes from the new 4K master, I'd imagine it would just look slightly more refined, maybe with a higher color range.
We do indeed. And I loved that AC3 LD of Aliens, in some ways I actually preferred it to the DVD.
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Aliens does have a great transfer as does Alien. I wanted to ask you how good is the upscaling on a 4K TV? Also, what blu player do you use and how is the 4K upscaling on it? Im trying to get an idea of what to go with for my next TV. Thanks in advance for any answers/ details you can give me.
The upscaling is seamless, essentially. 1920x1080 HD to 3840x2160 UHD is directly proportional so they'd have to work harder to **** it up than to get it right! That said, even decent SD sources look superb, I watched the UK DVD of the theatrical cut of Last of the Mohicans the other day and was very impressed.

I don't use a 4K upscaling player because there's no point, the TV has such a good upscaler it's more important to feed it as good a signal as possible. My player is an Oppo 95.
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Looks like it's likely just the 4 films in a standard amaray case.

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Do we yet know if it will include the 2 bonus discs?
I really hope so as its so hard to find the "good version" of the Alien Anthology collection brand new and cheaply. This could've been a great solution.
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Do we yet know if it will include the 2 bonus discs?
I really hope so as its so hard to find the "good version" of the Alien Anthology collection brand new and cheaply. This could've been a great solution.
As has been said before: ain't gonna happen at this price. This is the el cheapo solution for those who only want the flicks,
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Do we yet know if it will include the 2 bonus discs?
I really hope so as its so hard to find the "good version" of the Alien Anthology collection brand new and cheaply. This could've been a great solution.
What do you mean by "good version?" Surely the slightly smaller Anthology set with the nice cardboard packaging, booklet and bonus discs is still better than this version. And the Anthology can be had for as low as $30 pretty much all the time.
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The upscaling is seamless, essentially. 1920x1080 HD to 3840x2160 UHD is directly proportional so they'd have to work harder to **** it up than to get it right! That said, even decent SD sources look superb, I watched the UK DVD of the theatrical cut of Last of the Mohicans the other day and was very impressed.

I don't use a 4K upscaling player because there's no point, the TV has such a good upscaler it's more important to feed it as good a signal as possible. My player is an Oppo 95.
Wow, so it even upscales SD material decent as well? Thanks for the info. I might have to look more into 4k.
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Watched Aliens again yesterday (theatrical cut, natch). Holy heck, what a transfer. There's soooooo much detail, some of those close-ups of Ripley and Gorman in the APC are astonishing, and it's got a noticeable but not overbearing dusting of grain.

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Obviously I can't speak for other films which were given the green-o-vision treatment (I don't think there were too many tube lights in TGTBATU!), nor will I claim that Aliens was like that in the theater (I didn't see it, I was only 6 at the time!), but there's a sound technical reason for the colour looking like it does.

AMAZING transfer IMO which looked equally astounding upscaled on my 4K TV. I'm struggling to imagine just how better a proper 4K version would be, aside from the hoped-for improvements in colour fidelity.
Yep the blu is a revelation compared to that terrible old DVD. Anyone who (still?! yes I think there are some like this out there) doubts the merits of blu-ray over DVD just needs to compare Aliens. Job done!
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