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Old 05-09-2007, 12:07 PM   #1
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Sorry, only for europe yet. This is first DLNA compatible High-Def player in the world.

Dolby TrueHD is supported, perhaps it is on board decoding.
Near future, revision up model which direct bitstream out of hi-def audio to slate, but I think this model is also upgradable.

>>http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/campaign/p...s/bdplx70.html

Oh, CD playable.
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Old 05-09-2007, 02:58 PM   #2
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About time Europe got a bit more choice. Hopefully other manufacturers will follow suit.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:03 PM   #3
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Thumbs up Pioneer BDP-94HD Elite Blu-Ray Disc Player

Pioneer Elite Blu-Ray Disc Player Fulfills Promise of the HD Disc Format with Unbeatable Picture Quality

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...20&newsLang=en

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NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. offers the pinnacle of home theater to entertainment junkies with the introduction of its next generation Blu-ray Disc® player, the Elite® BDP-94HD. The well-rounded player offers playback of the newest high resolution audio formats, home networking capabilities and is easily integrated into even the most complicated home theaters. However, it shines most in its ability to deliver stunning image quality of Blu-ray Disc titles.

“The decision to purchase a Blu-ray Disc player is generally made because a consumer recognizes the benefits of the HD quality. This new player is a prime example of our dedication to exceptional quality, creating sights and sounds that leave an emotional impression for movie enthusiasts,” said Chris Walker, senior manager of marketing and product planning at Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. “A significant aspect to a quality home theater is convenience and this unit is designed to deliver high performance with minimal user effort for a premier entertainment experience.”

The BDP-94HD arrives at specialty retailers this month, and will be bundled with two Blu-ray Disc film titles giving consumers the opportunity to enjoy these feature films in premium Dolby® TrueHD lossless advanced audio. The BDP-94HD has a suggested price of $1000.

Home Theater Integration

Pioneer designed the BDP-94HD for seamless home theater integration via HDMI® Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) technology. The new feature allows users to synchronize the Blu-ray Disc player with multiple CEC-enabled home theater products to manage an entire system with a single remote control. The newly designed graphical user interface enables simple navigation with easy to read icons.

Home Media Gallery

The BDP-94HD offers an enhanced version of Pioneer’s exclusive Home Media Gallery home networking feature. With faster navigation, consumers can stream video and music content as well as view photo slideshows directly from their computer in high definition. With IP networking and a new user interface, Pioneer makes it extremely easy for users to access and load protected content and even download new digital media files straight from their computer for immediate viewing through the player on a large flat screen television. It is compliant with Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA), Windows PC’s using Windows Media Connect, and Microsoft’s playsforsure™ DRM technology.

Movie Theater Playback Performance

Pioneer ensures smooth universal product compatibility with state-of-the-art HDMI connectivity to rapidly transfer pure digital video and audio data between source and display resulting in uncompromised imagery of Blu-ray Disc and standard definition DVD. It offers superb audio performance with internal decoding of premium Dolby TrueHD lossless audio technology for high-definition content and Dolby® Digital Plus, a highly flexible audio technology that delivers outstanding high-definition sound and up to 7.1 channels of surround sound for a richer, more involving entertainment experience.

Pioneer’s Home Entertainment and Business Solutions Group develops high definition home theater equipment for sports and entertainment junkies. Its flat panel televisions, Blu-ray Disc players, A/V receivers and speakers heighten the emotions created by great HD content. The company brands include Pioneer® and Elite®. When purchased from an authorized retailer, consumers receive a limited warranty for one year with Pioneer products and two years with Elite products. More details can be located at www.pioneerelectronics.com.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:09 PM   #4
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Thanks for the information link marzetta7. Pioneer did a good job keeping this player a secret. They waited until the actual month the player is planned on being released before making an announcement. This new Pioneer player is $500 cheaper and hopefully offers just as good or better picture quality then the first generation player. The player has full support for 7.1 Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus is great news. To bad it does not have full support for DTS-HD


The following websites claim the Pioneer BDP-94HD contains only HDMI 1.2. I would be surprised if this was true. What ticks me off is some websites are complaining about the price. I do not mind spending $1,000 for a high-end BLU-RAY player. Also this player is $500 cheaper then the first generation model. As long as the quality is the same or better Pioneer did a good job of bring the price down $500. We will have to wait for a review to see if the picture quality is just as good or better then the $1500 first generation Pioneer BLU-RAY player.

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/pioneer-elite-bdp_94hd/

http://crunchgear.com/2007/05/09/pioneer-announces-elite-bdp-94hd-blu-ray-player
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:42 PM   #5
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I am trying to figure out how they will sell the $1500 model? This model is $500 less and has the same specs plus more features. Are they discontinuing the other one?
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:48 PM   #6
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Seems that Blu-ray, unlike anything else Pioneer puts out under the Elite brand, is subjected to special pricing judgement.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:25 PM   #7
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I'll bet this will street for $799. Sounds sweet.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:44 PM   #8
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QUOTE from twice:
The $1,000-suggested BDP-94HD Blu-ray player ships in May bundled with two Blu-ray Disc titles that would be among the first with Dolby TrueHD soundtracks. Initial Blu-ray Discs mainly featured Dolby and DTS 5.1 soundtracks, but multichannel PCM was included on some, the company has said.

The BDP-94HD features losslessly compressed Dolby Digital TrueHD decoding, and losslessly compressed DTS-HD Master Audio and lossy DTS-HD High Resolution Audio decoding might be available later as an upgrade loaded via disc, a spokeswoman said. That would enable the player to decode all Blu-ray and HD DVD mandatory and optional surround sound formats.
Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master, however, can’t be transported in native form over the player’s HDMI 1.2 output, but the player transcodes surround formats to PCM for transport over HDMI 1.2.”
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6441105.html
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:47 PM   #9
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I am trying to figure out how they will sell the $1500 model? This model is $500 less and has the same specs plus more features. Are they discontinuing the other one?
According to my sources the $1500 model is now out of production. It is being replaced with the improved $1000 model.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:51 PM   #10
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I am trying to figure out how they will sell the $1500 model? This model is $500 less and has the same specs plus more features. Are they discontinuing the other one?
Yes, the BDP-HD1 is discontinued.
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Old 05-11-2007, 03:56 AM   #11
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The Pioneer BDP-94HD will play CD’s which is a nice improvement over the first generation model.
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The player will accept both DVDs and CDs in addition to Blu-ray Discs.”
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6440891.html?rssid=84
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:33 AM   #12
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Looks like the American version of the European-market BDP-LX70 Blu-ray Player.






Heck, I think it has exactly the same specs: Dolby True HD support, 1080p/24fps, universal PAL/NTSC/SECAM support, same-exact remote control units, Japan-made (most likely), DLNA compatibility and BOTH PLAY CD DISCS.

I mean other than the font color (silver for Euro-spec, gold for America-spec), these players are EXACTLY THE SAME
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:12 AM   #13
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-971...?tag=cnetfd.mt

Crave has taken a huge dump on this player, because of it:

1. lacking HDMI 1.3 (it has 1.2)

2. no mention of CD support (the previous model wouldn't play CDs)

3. no mention of enhanced standard DVD upconversion (the previous model didn't do it)


They told people to go out and get the Samsung BD-P1200
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:13 AM   #14
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-971...?tag=cnetfd.mt

Crave has taken a huge dump on this player, because of it:

1. lacking HDMI 1.3 (it has 1.2)

2. no mention of CD support (the previous model wouldn't play CDs)

3. no mention of enhanced standard DVD upconversion (the previous model didn't do it)


They told people to go out and get the Samsung BD-P1200
One can not always believe everything they read online.
I am also disappointed the Pioneer does not have HDMI 1.3 support.
The Pioneer BDP-94HD will play CD’s which is a nice improvement over the first generation model.
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The player will accept both DVDs and CDs in addition to Blu-ray Discs.”
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6440891.html?rssid=84


The first generation Pioneer player has excellent DVD up conversion quality. Pioneer’s second generation player will also include DVD up conversion.

The $1500 Pioneer BDP-HD1 has the best picture quality so far and is a reference machine used to compare all other BLU-RAY players picture quality.

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BOTTOM LINE If your main goal is getting top-notch video performance from a Blu-ray Disc player, Pioneer's BDP-HD1 is the one to buy. Of the four players I've tested so far, this model was by far the picture-quality standout.”

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-dvd-bluray/2142/pioneer-elite-bdp-hd1-blu-ray-disc-player-page3.html


For only $200 more the Pioneer BDP-94HD is more attractive then the Samsung BD-P1200. Most likely the Pioneer will have a better picture quality then the BD-P1200. We will have to wait until both players are reviewed to see which one has the best picture quality. Lacking HDMI 1.3 is the only major disappointment with the Pioneer.
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:13 PM   #15
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Yes, the BDP-HD1 is discontinued.
what you mean discontinued?
looks good enough for any BD buyer
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-dvd-bluray/2142/pioneer-elite-bdp-hd1-blu-ray-disc-player.html
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #16
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what you mean discontinued?
Just means that Pioneer no longer makes them in their factories.

It can still be sold, just like a Model T can be sold, but it doesn't mean it is in production.


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Old 05-12-2007, 05:09 PM   #17
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what you mean discontinued?
looks good enough for any BD buyer
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hd-...sc-player.html
"Discontinued" means that it’s no longer manufactured.
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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Default How about "Just the Facts" ?

It always amazes me here on this an other Forums all the conjecture, He said, she said, I think, Possibly, and so on. This does not even make for good dialogue on merchandise not yet even 'published' by the manufacturer. Don't you think it is best to simply wait for the formal announcement coupled with the features and specifications from Pioneer?

Pioneer Elite announced the concurrent release of their new A/V Receivers to occur at the same showroom introduction of their DVD player comes to market. One of those specifications announced by Pioneer is their top end receiver includes "Consumer Electronic Control" (CEC) feature, which is a specification and feature of HDMI 1.3. So, my question would be, Why would Pioneer Elite introduce an HDMI 1.3 Receiver with CEC features and not have a Blu-Ray DVD Player with those same compatable features? This is a question, bye the way, not a conjecture statement !!!

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Old 05-12-2007, 11:59 PM   #19
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Yes I hope Pioneer releases an official statement on features soon. Twice magazine is a very reliable source. Twice info came from a Pioneer spokeswoman who hopefully knew what she was talking about.


  • The new Pioneer will play audio CD’s and will do DVD up conversion
  • The Pioneer spokeswoman claims the player is HDMI 1.2
Some of the following comments are just educated guess and is not based in fact and only theory.

If the Pioneer spokeswoman is correct and the player does not have HDMI 1.3 then possible reasons might be.
  • Maybe Pioneer started designing this player several months ago and for some reason they were not ready to introduce a BLU-RAY player with HDMI 1.3 yet. Some BLU-RAY players that have HDMI 1.3 lack the capability to play forthcoming AVC-HD discs that are encoded with 1.8 times more color gamut. Perhaps Pioneer when they introduce a BLU-RAY player with HDMI 1.3 they want to make sure the player will have the ability to play all sound formats and the future BLU-RAY discs that are encoded with advanced color. The Sony BDP-S300 and BDP-S500 are going to be the first two BLU-RAY players that can read future BLU-RAY discs that contain 1.8 times more color info. The buyer needs to be aware, certain brands and models of displays, receivers, and BLU-RAY players that have HDMI 1.3 will not always support all the features of HDMI 1.3. Just because a product is HDMI 1.3 does not mean it will do everything listed in the HDMI 1.3 specification. HDMI 1.3 means it supports Higher Speed, Deep Color, Broader color space, improved lip sync, and lossless audio formats if the manufactory chooses to design their product with those features. http://www.hdmi.org/about/faq.asp#hdmi_1.3
  • There is a strong possibility Pioneer will be releasing a HDMI 1.3 version BLU-RAY player around December with full audio support over HDMI and with the ability to play the forthcoming AVC-HD discs which have a wider color gamut. Pioneer most likely will have a HDMI 1.3 BLU-RAY player on the market by year end to go with the Pioneer HDMI 1.3 surround receivers.
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:54 PM   #20
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I was wondering what you guys think of this player and how you think it will compare to the DMP-BD10A.
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