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Old 12-14-2011, 10:59 PM   #21
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This picture is just to tease you.


Ooh........Turn it around Huba, Huba

But in all seriousness, I was looking along those lines (Great minds think alike). But the cost (right now) is prohibitive . Would you care to rent yours
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:31 AM   #22
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Ooh........Turn it around Huba, Huba

But in all seriousness, I was looking along those lines (Great minds think alike). But the cost (right now) is prohibitive . Would you care to rent yours
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I thought You were gona tease the masses just a little longer
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With the help of the amazing little Phonic PAA3 analyzer, I managed to equalize the Behringer equalizer. Because of this, the sound quality has improved drastically.

I posted the results in Post #2 of this thread. It may also not be a bad idea to check Post #2 of the Phonic PAA3 thread.
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Very impressive response graph BD. Have you tried a house curve?
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Very impressive response graph BD. Have you tried a house curve?
Thank you.

Initially, before I took any measurements, I tried several house curves with different slopes and didn't care for the sound. It became too bass heavy. I really spent a great deal of time tweaking the equalizer. That little Phonic analyzer was a big help. To my ears, I can hear significant improvement, particularly in the mid-range. I am hearing things that were difficult to hear before.
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I'm happy to read about the results you've achieved using the PAA3 . I'm now in the process of putting one in my budget for 2012
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Great thread! I have AMEX points and I want to bag an equalizer! I am eyeing the FBQ3102, but I am not sure what the difference is to the 6200. All I would really care about are the 31 bands and feedback reduction for my two channel setup. I have two stereo pro amps powering my polk towers, bi-amped.
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Great thread! I have AMEX points and I want to bag an equalizer! I am eyeing the FBQ3102, but I am not sure what the difference is to the 6200. All I would really care about are the 31 bands and feedback reduction for my two channel setup. I have two stereo pro amps powering my polk towers, bi-amped.
As far as equalization is concerned, both models will do the job. The 6200 has a few additional options that you may or may not need.

Behringer FBQ3102:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ3102.aspx

Behringer FBQ6200:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ6200.aspx
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I am gonna use my credit card points and get the 6200. The only issue I have is that I have bi-amped full-range towers. I suppose I would use the sub/sat configuration on the equalizer and feed the highs (120 hz and up) the L/R signals and the lows (120 hz and below) via subwoofer output on equalizer in mono to the low of L/R towers. Is this advisable?
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I am gonna use my credit card points and get the 6200. The only issue I have is that I have bi-amped full-range towers. I suppose I would use the sub/sat configuration on the equalizer and feed the highs (120 hz and up) the L/R signals and the lows (120 hz and below) via subwoofer output on equalizer in mono to the low of L/R towers. Is this advisable?
The equalizer can contol frequencies as low as 20Hz all the way up to 20,000Hz in 1/3 octave increments. You may not have to use the sub/sat configuration. There is nothing to stop you from trying it and evaluate the results.
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As far as equalization is concerned, both models will do the job. The 6200 has a few additional options that you may or may not need.

Behringer FBQ3102:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ3102.aspx

Behringer FBQ6200:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FBQ6200.aspx
I just got my Equalizer today FBQ 3102, I started to play pink noise from my ipad and tried to match my system's response to the house-curve. The software I'm using doesn't seem to be cutting it. I am using my Ipad (newest) built-in mic. I tried using the Behringer ultra-linear microphone , the same one u listed on an earlier post, but my Ipad would not recognize it when i use a 1/8" to XLR adapter. Another flaw, I believe, is that the software (Signalscope Pro) uses 1/3 octave for the RTA. By the looks of things, there's 1/6 octave and even higher RTA's. Looks like I'm gonna have to invest in one of these RTA suites.

Question... how high do I have to play Pink Noise to accurately manipulate the response using the EQ sliders?

As of now, my equalizer's adjusted with the higher frequencies being boosted and the mid-bass 80-180hz range being attenuated. This is of course by ear and by judging using my favorite tunes.

Did you get a high-pitched buzzing noise from your speakers? When I press the bypass button on the EQ, the buzz goes away. None of the bands are boosted any higher than 6 db.
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