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Old 02-12-2014, 07:45 PM   #161
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Yes, I know what day for night is. But to say it's not used anymore is quite incorrect.
In the style that it was used in Shane, it is. Any modern movies shot day for night are adjusted using computers.
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In the style that it was used in Shane, it is. Any modern movies shot day for night are adjusted using computers.
Well, "in the style that it was used in Shane" wasn't part of the arguments being made. It was just constantly asserted that day-for-night isn't being used anymore. Which is patently false.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:56 AM   #163
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Price just dropped on this to 8.96...
Contemplating finally snagging this, since it's my father-in-law's favorite movie and I've never seen it. Judging by the 9 page thread here, I'll take it that it's a solid enough flick to warrant a blind buy for some added family bonding...
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:01 AM   #164
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Contemplating finally snagging this, since it's my father-in-law's favorite movie and I've never seen it. Judging by the 9 page thread here, I'll take it that it's a solid enough flick to warrant a blind buy for some added family bonding...
Look at it this way -- it's #45 on AFI's top movies of all time list, it's the highest ranked western other than The Searchers, and according to the reviewers it's a beautiful looking transfer. Worth it.

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It's a great Blu-ray of a great film! Buy it!
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:41 PM   #166
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I just got a viewing in tonight. Great, great film. I cried.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:56 PM   #167
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Well, "in the style that it was used in Shane" wasn't part of the arguments being made. It was just constantly asserted that day-for-night isn't being used anymore. Which is patently false.
The day for night filming technique as used in old films like these is no longer used. The vast majority of films taking place at night are actually shot at night, and anything else that's filmed "day for night" these days is adjusted digitally after the fact so it doesn't have that dull, dusky look that old films had. Obviously that's what the person who brought this topic up was talking about.
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The day for night filming technique as used in old films like these is no longer used. The vast majority of films taking place at night are actually shot at night, and anything else that's filmed "day for night" these days is adjusted digitally after the fact so it doesn't have that dull, dusky look that old films had. Obviously that's what the person who brought this topic up was talking about.
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Finally ordered this yesterday. Couldn't pass up $8.96.
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Old 02-16-2014, 08:53 PM   #170
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[QUOTE=baheidstu;8805410]The day for night filming technique as used in old films like these is no longer used. The vast majority of films taking place at night are actually shot at night, and anything else that's filmed "day for night" these days is adjusted digitally after the fact so it doesn't have that dull, dusky look that old films had. Obviously that's what the person who brought this topic up was talking about.[/QUOTE
The technique is still used today sometimes. According to IMDB:
"All of the night scenes involving Andy, Tammy, Scarlet, Doyle and Sam's journey across London to escape the bombs were shot day-for-night using a new technique created specifically for the film by director of photography Enrique Chediak. The scenes were shot day-for-night for three reasons. Firstly, because the filmmakers weren't allowed to use Mackintosh Muggleton (Andy) at night time. Secondly, because there is supposed to be a total shut down of all power in London, hence every building must appear light-less. However, if one were to actually shoot at night time in London, this would be impossible to capture photo-realistically and would hence involve complex post-production work removing all of the lights. By shooting during the day time however, there are few lights on in most buildings anyway, and as such, when the day-for-night treatment is applied to the film stock, everything in the image darkens equally, thus giving the impression that all of the buildings are in total darkness. Thirdly, director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo has always been a big fan of the 'ghostly' quality day-for-night shooting has, and he felt it would create the perfect sense of unease for the film."
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:21 PM   #171
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The day for night filming technique as used in old films like these is no longer used. The vast majority of films taking place at night are actually shot at night, and anything else that's filmed "day for night" these days is adjusted digitally after the fact so it doesn't have that dull, dusky look that old films had. Obviously that's what the person who brought this topic up was talking about.[/QUOTE
The technique is still used today sometimes. According to IMDB:
"All of the night scenes involving Andy, Tammy, Scarlet, Doyle and Sam's journey across London to escape the bombs were shot day-for-night using a new technique created specifically for the film by director of photography Enrique Chediak. The scenes were shot day-for-night for three reasons. Firstly, because the filmmakers weren't allowed to use Mackintosh Muggleton (Andy) at night time. Secondly, because there is supposed to be a total shut down of all power in London, hence every building must appear light-less. However, if one were to actually shoot at night time in London, this would be impossible to capture photo-realistically and would hence involve complex post-production work removing all of the lights. By shooting during the day time however, there are few lights on in most buildings anyway, and as such, when the day-for-night treatment is applied to the film stock, everything in the image darkens equally, thus giving the impression that all of the buildings are in total darkness. Thirdly, director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo has always been a big fan of the 'ghostly' quality day-for-night shooting has, and he felt it would create the perfect sense of unease for the film."
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Okay, if you read what you have posted, there are practical, technical and artistic reasons why day for night had to be used on 28 Weeks Later.

The point is, that as a routine filming technique, day for night as it was used on Shane and countless other pre-70s films is virtually extinct. Of course, there will occassionally be a film that uses it, but it's the same thing with black and white films. Yes, there is occassionally a film like Artist, Schindler's List or Nebraska which is made in black and white for effect, but just as a routine method of doing business, it's not done anymore. Similar thing with the old school style of day for night.
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Finally watched it! Looks fantastic for most part. But its ridiculously dark towards the end? Its quite hard to tell what's going on! Is it really supposed to look that way???
I agree and said so in my review on this site. Who ever did the adjustments over adjusted and so at least on some TV's such as mine all detail is lost. By comparison some of these scenes shown in the trailers are much brighter.
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I agree and said so in my review on this site. Who ever did the adjustments over adjusted and so at least on some TV's such as mine all detail is lost. By comparison some of these scenes shown in the trailers are much brighter.
yes...I never saw your review I tried it on 3 different tv's and it was the same on all, could not make out what was going on at all. it knocks down my rating of the blu a bit.
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Look at it this way -- it's #45 on AFI's top movies of all time list, it's the highest ranked western other than The Searchers, and according to the reviewers it's a beautiful looking transfer. Worth it.

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It's a great Blu-ray of a great film! Buy it!
Thanks for the responses guys. I went ahead and finally ordered a copy, along with Apocalypse Now which just dropped to $10 (the crappy version). Going to earn a lot of brownie points with the old man-in-law with this pickup. It better be as good as he's been fussing about to me for the past 18 years!

I'll be interested to keep an eye on how this day for night filming technique looks that you've all been debating in here too...
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Thanks for the responses guys. I went ahead and finally ordered a copy, along with Apocalypse Now which just dropped to $10 (the crappy version). Going to earn a lot of brownie points with the old man-in-law with this pickup. It better be as good as he's been fussing about to me for the past 18 years!

I'll be interested to keep an eye on how this day for night filming technique looks that you've all been debating in here too...
Only thing that sucks , and it's really always sucked ... Is the kids performance. It's just really not aged well. Just thinking about this kid , is this the same kid from 'the blob' ?

Ladd, Heflin and Palance are superb. Cinematography is over the top, and the writing is impeccable. Lots of seriously incredible subtexts for its time.
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Great Western. Excellent PQ. Highly recommended!
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