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Old 08-08-2014, 10:21 AM   #1161
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:25 AM   #1162
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:28 AM   #1163
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I was hoping for more story from the prequel than was shown. I couldn't figure out the creature's animalistic (kill or be killed) motivation in the film. I understood where it was coming from in the original, almost like hunted prey backed into a corner.

They had a chance to show the intelligent side of the creature. It's species created ships to traverse the stars and even created a make-shift craft out of random parts later on. IMHO it was in poor taste to have the alien be that way from the get-go.

To explain it's behavior, it would of been kind of neat if when aboard the craft, we somehow find out that the creature ended up being a sort of experiment that escaped only to assimilate the crew, but the ship crashed on earth.
Actually, in the original cut of the film, the spaceship is piloted by a species of alien explorers who accidently release the thing on the ship. They crash it on earth to try and destroy it

There is a Facebook page which the director contributes to where it's all explained. Very interesting read.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:59 AM   #1164
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As much as I didn't hate the new film, I felt it tried to do a similar thing to the Director's Cut of Cinema Paradiso* and stitch together all the parts that you were not told but were happy to place together for yourself.

*I never thought I'd be making a comparison of those 2 films.
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Old 08-08-2014, 02:36 PM   #1165
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Actually, in the original cut of the film, the spaceship is piloted by a species of alien explorers who accidently release the thing on the ship. They crash it on earth to try and destroy it

There is a Facebook page which the director contributes to where it's all explained. Very interesting read.
Wow, i'm going to check that out. Thanks!
Now that makes some sense.
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Old 08-08-2014, 02:38 PM   #1166
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The 2011 prequel pales in comparison to John Carpenter's The Thing, but its heart is in the right place. I like having it and I like revisiting the film, because it's a respectful homage in so many ways.
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The 2011 prequel pales in comparison to John Carpenter's The Thing, but its heart is in the right place. I like having it and I like revisiting the film, because it's a respectful homage in so many ways.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:00 PM   #1168
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The 2011 prequel pales in comparison to John Carpenter's The Thing, but its heart is in the right place. I like having it and I like revisiting the film, because it's a respectful homage in so many ways.
Totally agree. I think time will be kind to many of the more recent horror movies just in the way it was to those from the 80s,the pages of old fangos are full of bad reviews and readers letters hating films the vast majority of horror fans would call classics.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:17 PM   #1169
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Shouldn't there be a "Thing" corpse at the hellicopter crash site in the prequel?
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:28 PM   #1170
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We don't wanna confuse why the 80's Thing is so great.

Carpenter took a year to do it; that's long. That shows in its pacing via an especially well-written script which used complex and advanced psychology to communicate hidden narratives.

Things to take note of in Carpenter's version:
Who took the keys?
Was Child's infected?
Chess match parallel.
Notice the subtle use of clothes to determine who's infected.
The list goes on.
See? It's MORE than just an ABC horror movie.

These things are what make a standard horror movie stand out and stand the test of time.

Guarenteed the 2011 prequel isnt talked about in thirty years. Its a by-the-numbers good horror flick.

But the 1982 version was talked about thirty years later and will continue to be talked about thirty years from now.


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eiknarf, I agree with all of this. But, it doesn't change the fact that now, after seeing the 2011 prequel, I can't watch '82 film without seeing the prequel first. As I said in my last post, IMHO they fit together so perfectly it's uncanny, despite the fact that they were made almost 30 years apart. The 2011 film basically fills in the gaps/questions that were raised in the '82 film.

To make an analogy, I also consider the following sets of films to be one long movie; these also go together extremely well:

Planet of the Apes (1968) and Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970); there are even scenes from the first film in the beginning of the second....

Halloween (1978) & Halloween II (1981); Ditto....

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Old 08-09-2014, 01:20 AM   #1172
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Most of the Norwegian cast whist underused are believable enough that they fit in the 1982 time frame and setting, but Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Eric Christian Olsen just don't fit. They don't look the part nor act the part.
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You guys are making me want to finally see the 2011 film.
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We don't wanna confuse why the 80's Thing is so great.

Carpenter took a year to do it; that's long. That shows in its pacing via an especially well-written script which used complex and advanced psychology to communicate hidden narratives.

Things to take note of in Carpenter's version:
Who took the keys?
Was Child's infected?
Chess match parallel.
Notice the subtle use of clothes to determine who's infected.
The list goes on.
See? It's MORE than just an ABC horror movie.
I'm sure it's already linked somewhere in this thread, but here is a great video exploration of the bolded question:


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I'd love a director's cut of this, which apparently had a slower pace originally, allowing for more character development. Also removing the added CG and including the original ending would be great. Unfortunately, I expect this will NEVER happen due to the money it made, but if you'd have told me in the mid 90's there'd be an Alien 3 Workprint Cut made with new effects etc, I'd have never believed ya!

I really like The Thing 2011 anyway, but I bet the original cut was quite a bit better and closer pacing wise to the original.

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Old 08-09-2014, 06:53 AM   #1176
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Remakes or prequels tend to make people re-watch the original movies and recall what they missed/forgot.
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I think time will be kind to many of the more recent horror movies just in the way it was to those from the 80s,the pages of old fangos are full of bad reviews and readers letters hating films the vast majority of horror fans would call classics.
Absolutely. Maybe age and nostalgia plays a part? You see the same phenomenon if you go to a place like the Classic Horror Film Board, where some of the "monster kids", who grew up watching the Universal horror movies on TV in the 1950-1960's, hate on everything that has been produced after.

It will be interesting to see which horror movies of the 00's will stand the test of time.
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I guess I'm an exception, I love the 1951 version, 1982 version and I enjoyed the prequel and I saw the 1982 version in the theatre. If it's good, I don't care what year it was made.
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I like the 1951 movie too, it's an old-fashioned monster flick and a lot of fun.

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You guys are making me want to finally see the 2011 film.
Give it a try. What's the worst that could happen?
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I'm sure it's already linked somewhere in this thread, but here is a great video exploration of the bolded question:

THE THING film analysis (update) "Was Childs infected?" part 1/2 - YouTube

THE THING film analysis (update) "Was Childs infected?" part 2/2 - YouTube
Yup.
Those are Rob Ager's video's.

He also has the best premise for how a sequel or prequel should have been... "Should have" meaning keeping that secluded, claustrophobic feeling which was more apparent in Carpenter's film.
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