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Old 03-01-2016, 07:04 AM   #241
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I've had the German discs for years, there are other versions besides the Korean discs that are better than the German versions IMO.

I'm not convinced that these will make their way on to 4K physical media. There are plenty of movies on Blu-ray that won't.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:11 AM   #242
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Second movie yeah probably but not many discs of the first movie have lossless audio, german, korean and no other?
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:03 AM   #243
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I wasn't referring to the audio, just the video of both movies.
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I understand. My info was more of an answer to earlier "What's the video/audio quality?" that only a few discs of the first movie have lossless audio which is more important to me than a little higher video bitrate but that depends on your equipment.

If I really really liked the movie the korean boxset is absolutely best but as a good enough less expensive solution there are other choices.
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The UK and Korean versions of Tomb Raider have the same video encode, so both should be listed as best PQ on Goofnut's list. The Korean version also has lossless audio, so this make it the overall superior version.

The Korean and European versions of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life, have a higher video bitrate to the U.S version (if the bitrate against the U.S entry on this site is accurate).

This is where I ordered my copy from:

http://www.kimchidvd.com/en/good/goo...good_seq=20692

Unless one release has a lossy track compared to another with a lossless track, has a different audio mix over another, or there is an error in a titles audio track, then in reality nothing should be marked as best AQ on that list.
I had the German double-feature and got rid of it after I got the UK version. The DE disc looked horrible, black crush was so bad that in some cases you had floating heads. It was so bad that I believe I gave up the beheading scene on the German disc. Again, I haven't seen these in a long time, but I believe that scene is an extra on the UK disc (the cover says Uncut, but I think - again, crap memory - that scene was expunged in all other versions).

So, two questions: is that scene in the Korean version and what's with the "booklets"? Are they like comics on thin, dull paper or like class booklets with thicker, glossy paper? Content? Thanks for all your help, now if I could only figure out where to come up with an extra $50.
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I understand. My info was more of an answer to earlier "What's the video/audio quality?" that only a few discs of the first movie have lossless audio which is more important to me than a little higher video bitrate but that depends on your equipment.

If I really really liked the movie the korean boxset is absolutely best but as a good enough less expensive solution there are other choices.
I sure hope the video/audio quality is improved on the South Korean release the blu ray that was first released by paramount is a embarrassment!
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I had the German double-feature and got rid of it after I got the UK version. The DE disc looked horrible, black crush was so bad that in some cases you had floating heads. It was so bad that I believe I gave up the beheading scene on the German disc. Again, I haven't seen these in a long time, but I believe that scene is an extra on the UK disc (the cover says Uncut, but I think - again, crap memory - that scene was expunged in all other versions).

So, two questions: is that scene in the Korean version and what's with the "booklets"? Are they like comics on thin, dull paper or like class booklets with thicker, glossy paper? Content? Thanks for all your help, now if I could only figure out where to come up with an extra $50.
Are you referring to the scene where Powell beheads Wilson? I don't recall that scene been added into the DE disc, though it has been ages since I have given the disc a spin, so I may have just forgotten. The running time of the Korean disc is the same as the UK disc.

I'll post some photos of the Korean set for you later. The booklets are good quality, they are mostly full of images, with a small amount of text in Korean.
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Are you referring to the scene where Powell beheads Wilson? I don't recall that scene been added into the DE disc, though it has been ages since I have given the disc a spin, so I may have just forgotten. The running time of the Korean disc is the same as the UK disc.

I'll post some photos of the Korean set for you later. The booklets are good quality, they are mostly full of images, with a small amount of text in Korean.
Thanks. I don't have the German disc anymore. But, as it's an extra scene on the UK disc, and I remember that I gave it up because the UK disc was SO much better looking, it presumably "must" have been "in" the German version I had (the double feature) or I wouldn't recall "giving it up".
Cop : Just let me handle the questioning, okay? I mean, it’s what I do for a living. There’s gotta be a method to it. It’s psychology. You get him
to lower his guard - one sentence at a time, build a rhythm. It’s a lot like music.
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I ordered my copy of this set from kimchidvd a day ago so hopefully I get this soon, even though I had to pay $65 after shipping I just couldn't pass up this breathtaking set
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Thanks. I don't have the German disc anymore. But, as it's an extra scene on the UK disc, and I remember that I gave it up because the UK disc was SO much better looking, it presumably "must" have been "in" the German version I had (the double feature) or I wouldn't recall "giving it up".

Here are some pics of the Korean version of Tomb Raider as promised:













I'll post some of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life tomorrow. I can do an individual shot of the booklet too if this isn't enough.
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Here are some pics of the Korean version of Tomb Raider as promised:
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I'll post some of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life tomorrow. I can do an individual shot of the booklet too if this isn't enough.
Wow! Great pix, Cevolution. Thank you very much! I'll be happy to see any other pix you want to post.
Cop : Just let me handle the questioning, okay? I mean, it’s what I do for a living. There’s gotta be a method to it. It’s psychology. You get him
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Wow! Great pix, Cevolution. Thank you very much! I'll be happy to see any other pix you want to post.
My set just shipped out from kimchidvd maybe with some luck I'll get this by the end of this week I doubt it probably some time next week, I am so looking forward to getting this BEAUTIFUL set in the mail
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Cevolution: have you or someone else bitrates/bdinfo on those Korean discs? Would be interesting how they compare. I'm pondering if I want/need to upgrade with that premium price.. I'm not that into boxes/packaging but best uncut PQ/AQ and english subs.
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Wow! Great pix, Cevolution. Thank you very much! I'll be happy to see any other pix you want to post.
Sorry for the delay with The Cradle of Life photos, I'll post them either in the next hour or two, or tomorrow.

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Cevolution: have you or someone else bitrates/bdinfo on those Korean discs? Would be interesting how they compare. I'm pondering if I want/need to upgrade with that premium price.. I'm not that into boxes/packaging but best uncut PQ/AQ and english subs.
I posted a link to the BDinfo scans/bitrates in post 235 on the previous page.

The Korean version of Tomb Raider has the same video encode as the UK disc, with the addition of lossless audio. Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life has the same video and lossless audio bitrates as the Euro disc.
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Whatever happened to the "OLIVIA WILDE FOR THE NEXT TOMB RAIDER" demands?

She was great in Drinking Buddies, but don't really recall her doing too much recently.
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Here are some pics of the Korean version of Tomb Raider as promised:

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I'll post some of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life tomorrow. I can do an individual shot of the booklet too if this isn't enough.
This set looks GORGEOUS. I couldn't resist it either. Even though I only really like the second movie, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this.
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Here are the photos from the Korean Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life:











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Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
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