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Old 06-22-2014, 10:46 PM   #6301
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Do you ever think we will see a different cut of this? I feel most of the deleted scenes would benefit the film a great deal.
No, Ridley did the best cut possible and the only way to benefit the film now is for him to do a sequel.
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No, Ridley did the best cut possible and the only way to benefit the film now is for him to do a sequel.
I like Prometheus a lot
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I also would like to see a different cut with a few of the deleted scenes added

From what I can remember :

[Show spoiler]- the worm discovery by biologist
- the more alien Fifield mutation fight
- mournful Vickers
- the Engineers longer conversation with Weyland

The extended fight with Shaw and the Engineer was cool but not sure if I need it in there

And I would delete :

- the Janek accordion / Vickers scene
- and trim a lot of Fifield lines


I'll have to re-watch some of 'em

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Old 06-23-2014, 02:35 AM   #6303
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No, Ridley did the best cut possible and the only way to benefit the film now is for him to do a sequel.
I disagree with this. Having watched a recut of the film that incorporates many of the deleted scenes, it improved the film dramatically in almost every way. Would love to see an official extended cut from Ridley and wouldn't be surprised if we got one around the time the sequel comes out.
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Saw this 4 times in theaters and got better on repeated viewings for me, i really loved this prequel to the franchise.

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Old 06-23-2014, 03:07 AM   #6305
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I disagree with this. Having watched a recut of the film that incorporates many of the deleted scenes, it improved the film dramatically in almost every way. Would love to see an official extended cut from Ridley and wouldn't be surprised if we got one around the time the sequel comes out.
I watched all the deleted scenes and felt they were best left out. The sour grapes of Vickers worked in the theatrical version and didn't need to be hammered in an additional corny scene that lacked any subtlety. The key point of the engineer's conversation with Weyland was the realization that David was an android and that Weyland sought immortality. This caused the engineer to lash out with violence in a very specific way
[Show spoiler]by yanking off David's head and using it to kill Weyland
, which was symbolic of a creator rejecting the capacity of his creation to create. Mucking with these scene just waters it down.

Regarding the biologist and Farfield, and Holloway too for that matter, they were supposed to represent those who lack faith. Prometheus was one of the rare sci fi movies that cast scientists as bumbling idiots who quickly succumb to the force of nature or technology. In that sense, Prometheus accomplished what the script needed to accomplish in rare form that didn't make sense or sit right with a lot of people. They thought the script was weak, when in fact certain characters were purposefully written to be weak.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:06 AM   #6306
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And I would delete :

- the Janek accordion / Vickers scene


I'll have to re-watch some of 'em

I actually love that scene! "Stop it!
[Show spoiler]That sounds like a dying cat"
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:38 AM   #6308
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I actually love that scene! "Stop it!
[Show spoiler]That sounds like a dying cat"
It's kind of a weird scene though. Right in the middle of all this sleek sci-fi gorgeousness there's a fella playing 'Love the one you're with' on an accordion.

Me, I'd put back the bit where Janek talks about the bio-weapons dump (I actually thought it was in the movie when I watched it second time around, I was wondering where it'd gone!!) and the extended stalk and slash with the Engineer and Shaw. I know folks have said that it's unrealistic because how could Shaw compete with a demi-god etc etc, but the whole damned movie is filled with similarly contradictory moments so a few more won't hurt, and besides, it's simply an exciting scene.

I'd reinstate her more agitated delivery of the 'you're a [****ing] robot' line too. Makes her future adventures with David all the more spicy because she's obviously pissed off, instead of the more conciliatory attitude that she has in the theatrical version.

Sir Ridley's movies have a habit of appearing as extended cuts on home video, so perhaps we'll get one for Prometheus if/when the sequel is made.
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... Regarding the biologist and Farfield, and Holloway too for that matter, they were supposed to represent those who lack faith. Prometheus was one of the rare sci fi movies that cast scientists as bumbling idiots who quickly succumb to the force of nature or technology. In that sense, Prometheus accomplished what the script needed to accomplish in rare form that didn't make sense or sit right with a lot of people. They thought the script was weak, when in fact certain characters were purposefully written to be weak.
You may be right as to the written "intent", I wouldn't know, but the portrayal was atrocious. Well-educated people are often dumb in some ways, but they're rarely idiotic - unless they're idiot-savants. The behavior portrayed here often defied basic scientific procedure - to say nothing of common sense. I would blame the actors, but you've gotta blame the writer(s)/director more. Even if they wanted to achieve what you say they wanted to achieve, ya gotta do it better than this or it becomes almost Keystone Cops-like.
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I actually love that scene! "Stop it!
[Show spoiler]That sounds like a dying cat"


Ha , you know - I actually don't hate that scene
I just can't see how that remained while others were ditched

Regarding the theatrical Prometheus' edit :

I don't need everything spelled out to me in a movie
And I love the mystery that permeates Prometheus

That said, some scenes could be padded out or explained a bit more while still retaining the overall unexplained nature of the film

Then certain character motivations wouldn't come off as awkward as they do

[Show spoiler]In particular , the little worms found by the biologist , makes the snake scene easier to swallow ( no pun intended ) . By the time the snake scene comes up , the biologist has already found life on another planet and is fueled by arrogance to discover more and it seriously clouds his judgement

If the accordion scene is trying to show Vickers human side
( or is it just mundane crew stuff ?)
I personally would have preferred the emotional Vickers after killing a man with a flamethrower , even though it was for the preservation of the crew/mission scene


Of course, we could dissect and rearrange every movie
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Regarding the biologist and Farfield, and Holloway too for that matter, they were supposed to represent those who lack faith.
Is that your interpretation, or something mentioned in commentaries/featurettes? All the human characters but one died in Alien too, so I the fact that it happened again in Prometheus didn't suggest to me that they were getting what was coming to them due to their lack of faith. And the Engineer didn't seem inclined to "reward" Shaw for her faith, he was trying to kill her just like everyone else and was only stopped by her cleverness.
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