Westworld (1973) - March 5 ,2013

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by chetripley80

Well it sure doesn't help your argument when the people that run blu-ray.com are saying the same thing as whitesheik. The only person that seems to be unwilling to accept others views on the Warner disc is MifuneFan.

Reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit huh? I've clearly written in past posts that I've appreciated certain member's input on the matter, and I've posted that I'll accept the fact that the color timing of Warner's release is fine if that's how it truly was from the beginning. I've went on record saying I don't know what the film looked like originally, and merely voiced my preferences about the color timing, and stretching, and I have always been open to input from other. At the same time, I also don't subscribe to the condescension of certain members here, who with their better than thou tone actually lose my respect for them, and their opinion, which I imagine is the opposite effect of what their trying to uphold I'm sure.

[rdodolak]

The recent screencaps Dickieduvet posted shows that the Aventi release is far from perfect. Compared to the Warner screencaps the Aventi frames have EE due to sharpening, compression artifacts and in some cases fine detail is completely washed out in some parts of some of those frames.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

The recent screencaps Dickieduvet posted shows that the Aventi release is far from perfect. Compared to the Warner screencaps the Aventi frames have EE due to sharpening, compression artifacts and in some cases fine detail is completely washed out in some parts of some of those frames.

Who the hell said that it was anything near perfect? Both releases are terrible, but this is why I prefer the French version:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ss=1#vergleich

[brian9229]

And the debate continues..............

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

Who the hell said that it was anything near perfect? Both releases are terrible, but this is why I prefer the French version:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ss=1#vergleich

Well, I prefer the Warner, based on the screencaps I've seen, due to these issues with the Aventi release (just a few examples) ...

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=411#vergleich

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=327#vergleich

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=143#vergleich

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=173#vergleich

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=203#vergleich

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...=104#vergleich

[chetripley80]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit huh? I've clearly written in past posts that I've appreciated certain member's input on the matter, and I've posted that I'll accept the fact that the color timing of Warner's release is fine if that's how it truly was from the beginning. I've went on record saying I don't know what the film looked like originally, and merely voiced my preferences about the color timing, and stretching, and I have always been open to input from other. At the same time, I also don't subscribe to the condescension of certain members here, who with their better than thou tone actually lose my respect for them, and their opinion, which I imagine is the opposite effect of what their trying to uphold I'm sure.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your previous posts in this thread are saved for all to see. I just believe experts have offered solid responses in regards to the so-called "debate" that will not disappear from this thread. I don't see the reason you're upset about the condescension of the technical experts in this thread when they are being factual, as opposed to providing opinions based on a disc they have not seen.

I didn't mean to ruffle up your feathers. Sorry if it came across that way. I just appreciate the well thought out responses some people have offered in this thread, and I feel the constant replies about screenshots have become a nuisance.

[42041]

Originally Posted by brian9229

And the debate continues..............

I don't know about that, "debate" usually involves some sort of two-way exchange of opposing arguments, this discussion has long since degenerated into internet noise.

[whitesheik]

Originally Posted by Dickieduvet

You can moan about screen caps all you like, If they are so redundant why does Blu-Ray.com persist with including them in each and every review they post?

Naturally you know better!

Do I know better than screen caps having actually watched the disc in question? Is that really what you're saying? Why, I'd have to say that the answer would be a resounding yes.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by chetripley80

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your previous posts in this thread are saved for all to see. I just believe experts have offered solid responses in regards to the so-called "debate" that will not disappear from this thread. I don't see the reason you're upset about the condescension of the technical experts in this thread when they are being factual, as opposed to providing opinions based on a disc they have not seen.

I didn't mean to ruffle up your feathers. Sorry if it came across that way. I just appreciate the well thought out responses some people have offered in this thread, and I feel the constant replies about screenshots have become a nuisance.

You think condescension is the only way to get a point across if you're a technical expert? There's a reason I respect Pro-B's input, and not those from people who try and talk down to you, rather than discussing the matter in a professional way. The posts are all saved as you say, so you can look up the distinction between the two in this thread. As I said before, professionalism gains my respect, that's why I felt no need to discuss it further after discussing it with Pro-B, condescension on the other hand is hardly productive, and actually detracts from the the discussion. As these posts are derailing the thread topic further, perhaps as a result of said condescension, this will be my last post about that.

Ultimately, I'm interested in seeing the movie, so I am looking forward to watching it first and foremost

[whitesheik]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You think condescension is the only way to get a point across if you're a technical expert? There's a reason I respect Pro-B's input, and not those from people who try and talk down to you, rather than discussing the matter in a professional way. The posts are all saved as you say, so you can look up the distinction between the two in this thread. As I said before, professionalism gains my respect, that's why I felt no need to discuss it further after Pro-B's posts, condescension on the other hand is hardly productive, and actually detracts from the the discussion. As these posts are derailing the thread topic further, perhaps as a result of said condescension, this will be my last post about that.

Ultimately, I'm interested in seeing the movie, so I am looking forward to watching it first and foremost

Since this is obtusely being lobbed at me, I'll just say that the condescension you always see is not there - it's never intended and I don't see it at all. I'm just stating my opinions and occasionally trying my damndest to get people to see the folly of the screen caps game. I'm not condescending when I do that - but I do it strongly because it really is a destructive little game.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

Since this is obtusely being lobbed at me, I'll just say that the condescension you always see is not there - it's never intended and I don't see it at all. I'm just stating my opinions and occasionally trying my damndest to get people to see the folly of the screen caps game. I'm not condescending when I do that - but I do it strongly because it really is a destructive little game.

I guess I don't see what's wrong with the screencaps; they provide information do they not? I tend to agree with the other statements you've made in this thread and I also respect Pro-B's valuable input. I do think the screencaps favor your statements as they show the Aventi release is stretched and has other flaws not seen in the Warner Blu-ray release.

[brian9229]

I cant believe this shit is still going on.

[Dickieduvet]

Agreed....Now lets debate why Futureworld looks so shite

[Geoff D]

Just watched the Warners BD. I gots no problem with the colour as the skin tones look fine and I love the richness of the reds, nor is there any issue with the level of detail, this being a 40yo anamorphic show stuffed to the gills with opticals. BUT it really does look overexposed in a lot of exterior shots. This is not me comparing it to anything else, it's simply what I'm seeing.

RAH touched upon it in his HTF review, noting that the colour of the opening credits is slightly blown out, but for my money this effect continues throughout the film. It may be exactly what the filmmakers intended - I can't say either way because I don't have a print to check, nor was I alive when the film debuted - but that doesn't stop it from looking kinda hinky.

[arcadeforest]

Finally got around to seeing this last night for the first time and really liked it. It held up very well for being a 40-year old sci-fi / fantasy film. Watched this on Amazon Prime streaming and it looked good. Not sure if its from the same source as the bluray, will pickup the bluray at some point.

I do have to mention that James Brolin looked alot like Christian Bale in this film. I had to even look it up on IMDB to see if they were related somehow.

[bluballer]

Originally Posted by arcadeforest

I do have to mention that James Brolin looked alot like Christian Bale in this film. I had to even look it up on IMDB to see if they were related somehow.

You're not the only one that's noticed the similarity.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/quiz/c.../?nopopup=true